kys. Tell him to start with the Greeks first though.
Samuel Nguyen
get him to read books of good quality, rather than reading books of every demographic.
If he only reads male authors, why MUST he read a female author? and why stop at female? why not mtf transexual, my not ftm transexual, why not asexual, why not homosexual men, homosexual women, why not communists, why not fascists, why not extreme religious fanatics, why not get him to read obscure chinese medical journals, or popular russian military textbooks?
Why are you shilling your agenda, OP?
Jason Hughes
Ayn Rand.
Jordan Parker
Get him to read "Glass castle" by Some Bitch
Charles Ross
To Kill a Mockingbird is a good choice. Anthem as well for Ayn Rand. The Giver by Lois Lowry.
James Long
My agenda is to expose him to many different perspectives so he may make his own mind up about them as he grows up.
He mostly reads what I recommend, and I noticed so far I've only recommended male authors.
Connor Watson
Having a vagina doesn't account for a different perspective, Jesus Christ.
Ryder Johnson
Rimbaud.
Jonathan Moore
Plus this talk about 'perspective' is extremely shallow, why not expose him to what is right and wrong? Or the search for beauty in literature? Truth in philosophy? Some clear and fixed goal he will aim at, not this Protagorean bullshit.
Julian Clark
it's too late. He's already jacking off to porno on his phone and objectifying women. No amount of female authors will make him respect women after the visceral rimjobs he's seen.
You're an idiot. Having a vagina exposes you to a totally different set of social conditioning.
Gavin Myers
Women actually do have different perspectives than men. Often they overlap but you are ignorant if you think women and men are exactly the same.
Juan Moore
The Bell Jar, Their Eyes Were Watching God, Gilead, Any Louise Erdrich
Jace Long
The differences of 'perspective' are completely spurious between two persons living under the same ideological and social environment. If you understand this, the overarching principles of a given time, you won't need to read particular perspectives anymore.
Christopher James
e.g. the different social conditioning of women is entirely dependent of the social conditioning of men, and vice-versa, together they form a whole, they don't exist apart from one another. Makes no sense to go piece-meal on this.
Jace Diaz
>If you understand this, the overarching principles of a given time And how would one fully understand those principles if said ideology treated women fundamentally different from men? Sure the perspective is going to be similar compared to someone from a different ideological/social background, but that doesn't discount the fact there is a non-negligible difference in perspective.
Asher Rogers
>if said ideology treated women fundamentally different from men? Superficially only, the mechanisms of ego-formation and struggle are the same and should be treated as such. Plus most of women's 'inferior' position in society is less the fault of some God-like patriarchy than the fact the women are more happy with trappings of power rather than actual power. There is nothing impeding them.
Hunter White
I never understood how the patriarchy could survive if universal suffrage was in effect, unless women themselves let it have power.
Chase Allen
>but that doesn't discount the fact there is a non-negligible difference in perspective.
My point is that between individuals themselves there is a difference perspective but that shouldn't be the end-goal, or are you implying all women are the same? What if women X's perspective is exactly what would you expect from a man's? Or vice-versa? What ideological, philosophical system are you using to qualificate and comprehend all those perspectives? Surely you're not just reading them thinking you going to stumble upon some timeless truth all of a sudden?
Jack Cooper
Dam ur rite. I'm only reading white men 2 understnad western culture now.
Jaxon Evans
As long you are trapped in petty, nonexistent gender issue, you will never see the whole, or try to comprehend reality in term of principles, or what Plato called, the timeless, universal forms that are the truth of appearances.
Jordan Johnson
>There is nothing impeding them
Except their biology
Owen Powell
Duly noted and added to the list. I thought To Kill a Mocking Bird was an obvious choice, but I'm not sure if the topic of rape is suitable for a child.
He started getting into murder mysteries, so I'm thinking Agatha Christie as well.
>>everyone else The experience of a female journalist in the 50's and a male journalist in the 50's covering the same story would have been completely different. The further you go back in time, the further apart a man's and a woman's perspective become.
This doesn't quite apply to works of fiction, but I still think it's important for someone taking an interest in literature (or any artform really) to be aware of the different groups of people who contribute to it, the same way that I think it's important to explore a great variety of genres instead of settling for one and never branching out.
Isaiah Sanchez
Don't get /pol/ on me.
>This doesn't quite apply to works of fiction, but I still think it's important for someone taking an interest in literature (or any artform really) to be aware of the different groups of people who contribute to it, the same way that I think it's important to explore a great variety of genres instead of settling for one and never branching out.
This is all fucking accidental, you shouldn't be PURPOSELY branching out like it's a Kantian Imperative, it happens along the way. The important thing is to know WHY you're reading in the first place, which I hope is not just 'for fun'. If you understand the principles of you're functioning under, you can read a single book your whole life, but it will be better than someone jumping from 'perspective' to 'perspective' hoping to find answers the least he expect.
Jaxson Brooks
Plus, you can't expect to truly know and understand an author without expending lots of time with him, which precludes your little joy ride.
Hunter King
Harper Lee is appropriate and he might be ready for works like Jane Eyre.
Madeleine L'engle Louisa May Alcott Frankenstein Anne Frank Frances H Burnett
Isaiah Cook
>which I hope is not just "FOR FUN" God this is the most pretentious shit I've read in a while.
There are multiple studies that point out the benefits of reading "for fun", and even if there were none many of the things people bother to do on their sad excuse for an existence happens to be "for fun". Nobel winning research and groundbreaking developments in human history included. It's important for someone who's developing an interest in literature to find it fun, or they may lose interest.
Julian Jones
You sound like a teenager. Is it 'pretentious' to not be a mindless retard drifting through life without ever working towards a goal?
>multiple studies that point out the benefits of reading "for fun" Meaningless if you don't agree with the principle of empirical benefit, I'm not an animal.
> even if there were none many of the things people bother to do on their sad excuse for an existence happens to be "for fun"
How many hours a day you do things 'for fun'? Time is running out, everyone dies and I don't want to left after I die a piece of corpse that did things for fun and very little else.
>interest They should learn that there must be something bigger than immediate interests.
Julian Baker
JK Rowling desu
Michael King
Frankenstein, daddy issues: the book
Christopher Allen
>I'm not sure if the topic of rape is suitable for a child Everything is presented in that book as taught to Scout by her father. The rape is expressed through this filter. It's the safest account of rape in literature and is the ideal way to approach difficult topics with young adults A 12 year old shouldn't start watching slasher porn but there are adult ideas that they should be inoculated with so they don't become extreme when they are a juvenile.
Brayden Martin
Elizabeth Barrett Browning Mary de Morgan Christina Rossetti E. Nesbit Edith Wharton Margaret Craven Rosemary Sutcliff
Evan Rodriguez
Yes it does. Im sorry it bothers you.
James Anderson
>muh special snowflake
Aaron Gutierrez
this, unironically
Henry Martinez
Little House on the Prairie or anything by Beverly Cleary
Carter Diaz
St. Faustina Kowalska St. Edith Stein St. Teresa of Avila
But this isn't about exposing to views different to the progressive dogma.
Mason Ortiz
Ursula le Guin
Margaritavilla Yourcenar
Mary Shelley
FlannelwearingcohostofToolTime O'Connor
Parker Gutierrez
Definitely wouldn't recommend the Bell Jar to a 12 year old. Way too dark.
Camden Walker
Flannery O'Conner
Also, why does he need to read a woman writer? to bait us?
Landon Edwards
>Harper Lee She's literally written two books though, one of them recently after a several decade hiatus.
Stop memeing
Nathan Gomez
This unironically x2. I always had trouble finishing books in my childhood before I read this one because of how intrigued I was by the plot. And of course my reading ability improved as the books went on
But now I would say a better suggestion if the Chronicles of Narnia by CS Lewis. The prose is slightly more challenging, and for all intents it is an adventure series, but the first and last books always struck me as very divisive from the rest with their imagery
Cooper Carter
M. Shelley's Frankenstein, of course. Helen Keller Joyce Carol Oates Anna Kavan Ayn Rand Wanda Tinasky
Dylan Reyes
You get banned for posting 'woman hate'-threads here, so this was the best alternative
Isaac Perez
>the bell jar
yeah let's get a 12 year old to read a story about trying to kill yourself because of how bleak and depressing the world is.
Angel Cook
>Suggestions? No, women can't write.
Jace Flores
>51% of the world share portions of this perspective >snowflake
pick one
Caleb Martin
Are you implying all women are the same
Elijah Thomas
>share portions of this perspective >portions
I'm glad to know reading comprehension is alive and well on Veeky Forums
>but we all share portions no, there are entire sectors of modern experience men do not come across for social and/or psychological reasons. There are places men will not venture, there are things they will not know about or experience. Just as there are for women.
Men can write about childbirth from either secondhand experience or from the observer perspective. Written however you like, they're still working off a less than complete picture, hindered by the reality of their biology or their treatment of it in the world.
Dylan Ortiz
The only thing they don't share is the lowness of biology, we should care about bigger things
James Cruz
Have you socially never talked to girls?
Jeremiah Rogers
I only speak to white men, i.e. actual people, and not higher consciousness cows
Leo Jenkins
I live in a house with 3 women.
Benjamin Nguyen
So that's a no.
Samuel Lopez
what 'talking' to girls would make any difference? Do you think a biology major 'talks' to animals to know their behavior?
Cooper Campbell
>I live with my mom and two sisters
Grayson Scott
>we're not different >my analogy is a human studying an alien form of life it doesn't yet understand
I love this board.
And you bet your ass that scientists would talk to salamanders if they had the chance, are you retarded?
Go talk to girls user, read some books by girls, it might be the difference between your ability to procreate and not.
Ryder Butler
Ignore the fucking suggestions in this thread, first. Anyone who would recommend Plath or Rand to a 12 year old needs to try going outside sometime.
Samuel Collins
I do not believe anyone sincerely said Rand. It was 100% shitposting.
Frankenstein is a real option. Also Atwood, Kincaid or Porter.
Matthew Cook
Depends what level he reads at. Kid's books: Lucy M. Boston, Susan Cooper, Elizabeth Enright, Tove Jansson, L.M. Montgomery, J.K. Rowling, Catherynne Valente, Judy Blume, Rosemary Sutcliff...
>And you bet your ass that scientists would talk to salamanders if they had the chance And they'd learn a lot of drivel, that the salamanders want to be seen in a certain way, the fantasies of salamanders and so on, but the OBSERVABLE behavior and the adequate assessment of the same would be just as it is now.
>it might be the difference between your ability to procreate and not. That's an ad hominem, I'm irrelevant to this argument.
Austin King
Regardless of the usual anti-rand shitposting that goes on around here, Anthem is one of the most dull and boring books I've ever read. Would not reccomend. TKAM is quality, 12 might be too old for the Giver, even if he hasn't read it yet, still pretty good book.
OP, the best book I'd rec is A Wrinkle in Time by Madeleine L'Engle. One of my favorites.
Grayson Carter
just give him SE Hinton's The Outsiders.
Owen Ross
Don't force it. My mother is who got me into literature and she never enforced women authors onto me.
If it's forced you ruin something that could have been enjoyable had they discovered it themself.
Henry Nelson
You should get your /r9k/ thread banned for posting it outside of /r9k/.
This board used to actually talk about books, but any thread that comes a hair close to talking about a woman writer, even old board favorites like O'Conner, will get showered by triggered beta males and chucklefucks, neither of which read anything. These same people then post on other threads pushing the "no one here reads" meme.
your threads should get banned.
Camden Cruz
I'm not forcing. I'm giving him the book, he may or may not choose to read it. I'd hate for him to not have the option/not know it's out there.
Kayden King
Did you notice all the serious suggestions and polite discussion before you shitposted? The thread is fine.
Justin Bell
Tove Jansson's moomin books
Jack Rodriguez
That wasn't me, man.
Lucas Davis
I was talking about the ye olde woman hate threads, senpai. I know this thread's fine.
Jack Edwards
Woman here. Women literally are the inferior gender, by every metric available, and we all know it on at least some level. Stop whiteknighting if you ever want to get laid. Your post made my pussy literally say out loud to me "don't fuck him, he's a little bitch who thinks he can win your favor by singing your praises randomly to strangers."
Jack Garcia
You shouldn't. If you attempt to force your ideological narrative in someone, especially a child or sibling (and especially one at that age), they will reject it and go further down their own path. If female authors are truly worth reading then someone who enjoys reading will come across them naturally and enjoy them as they would any other.
This was addressed to anyone in this thread with the conundrum presented in the OP. The OP itself is just bait.
James Carter
>Woman here. Uh-huh, sure.
Blake Adams
Harry Potter, obviously
Juan Diaz
I wish I was beta enough to role play as a fucking woman.
>My little brother reads a lot, but I noticed that he hasn't yet read anything written by a female author.
My bait tingling sensors are tingling.
Matthew Hernandez
Harry potter. Tried and true and twelve-year-old certified.
Jaxson Anderson
thanks for the smile and exhale through my nose
Cameron Diaz
misogyny isn't allowed outside of /b/
Aaron Jones
fpbp
Zachary Robinson
are you really being a cringy feminist old sister right now?
Jaxson Allen
>Hasn't read Woolf >Hasn't read Austen Go figure
Owen Watson
>responds with memes Go back to /b/ kid. I'm not even kidding, your kind isn't welcome here
Jason Mitchell
>"women are dumb" >"women are incomprehensible" >Posts link from conservative tabloid as "proof" The standards don't really go lower than that.
Angel Hughes
>good books >written by women
Pick one
Connor Ramirez
Neck urself u pleb
Samuel Russell
Name five (5) good books written by women, mr patrician >protip you can't
Owen Turner
Al Capone Does My Shirts, Choldenko A little older, Hunger Games Trilogy Older still, Octavia Butler Kid reads at a college level and doesn't have any fucking time for scrubs, Sappho
David Bailey
You made your goal something that you don't find fun (something that you're not even interested in) and you think that makes you the gold standard for humanity.
kek try again
Luke Nguyen
As I'm pretty much his sole source of literature I just don't want to deprive him of variety senpai
Cameron Rivera
Make him read "Little Women."
Jeremiah Reyes
beatrix potter Immanuel Kant Dante Alighieri Epicurus emily bronte