Veeky Forums loves Christianity now

No, you are wrong.

Never was a christian, but I never hated them, or thought someone was automatically stupid just because they were one.

I thought the whole atheist anti-christian thing was just a bunch of neckbeards looking for something to make them look cool by bashing.

The christian church has a lot of historical blood on it's hands....but so what? Every single human organization more than a hundred years old does too.

Reddit invaded /pol/, then immediately said, "I wonder what other boards are on this website."

Why isn't legit to be an antitheist? Religion accounts for most of the stupid laws, wars and pockets of sexism in the world.

when you remove religion there are even more bloodshed

>sexism
You've fallen for a false religion anyway so what's the point of being opposed to true religion?

Like in the nordic countries pre-Islam migration? Like modern day Japan? I don't count North Korea as it functions as a proper religion with the leaders in place of gods.

I didn't say it wasn't legit, but it doesn't automatically make you smarter or morally superior.

I'm not denouncing the false sexism that modern feminism shrills at, I'm denouncing sexism in Latinamerica and the Middle East, for instance, which is propped up by religions.

I agree. One has to have good reasons to hold such extreme positions.

Stop telling us what we think, newfag. Sage hidden reported.

dostoevsky, tolstoy, kierkegaard, newton etc.

Welcome to 2015

found the nu-male

Memes instead of arguments.

>Like in the nordic countries pre-Islam migration?
why theres this invasion on the first place?

>Like modern day Japan?
welp, i don't know much about japan history so i won't say anything
still, i don't think japan is a example as their population is not reproducing

You're talking about blooshed specifically, no? Japan is one of the safest places in the world, and also one of the most atheist.

The Islamic migration to Europe is due to wars based around religion or fucked up living conditions because of Shariah.

Mao killed like 60 million with his atheistic communism.

i don't like the way you say "wars based around religion" when its just "wars based around islam"

europe once upon a time defended itself against islamic invasion
no religion = weak people who have no purpose in life
you may look yourself as someone who doesn't need religion and i agree, sometimes thats the case
but the error with illuminism was to think that EVERYONE on the society was like that
and no, myths and religion are the most important thing for the masses

itt: Normies confusing organized religion with religious appreciation.

also, bitching about what good or evil others have done through religion/atheism is pretty pointless.

What have YOU done with it? More than likely, since you're on here, nothing. So shutup.

I agree that they're based around Islam.

Why are nordic societies so atheist and so peaceful then? (Islamic invasion aside).
Can you tell me what does religion give to masses that secularism can't?

Again, dogmatic ideology based on image cult. Very much like religion.

Why do you assume that? I, for instance, have my inner problems in the matter resolved, contribute with volunteer work every week. But this discussion is necessary, religion does more harm than good, so it's logical to discuss the point of having it around with so many privileges over other kinds of ideological dogmatic thought.

>this is an actual ameriburger opinion

>But this discussion is necessary

Not really, as it's been argued about ad nauseam since the dawn of time.

>religion does more harm than good

Not really. It CAN do more harm than good, just like atheism can, but that doesn't mean it WILL. Depends how people utilize it. If you're sole purpose of being an atheist is so you can go online and gabber away at theists, I don't see what you're accomplishing.

Either can be a valid philosophy in life, just depends how people use it.

It DOES more harm than good as evidenced by the daily news.

War has rarely been truly about religion, at least in the eyes of the people behind it. Religion is a scapegoat in the eyes of leaders, used as nothing more but a reason to act on their greed. Though, should religion not exist people would be relatively the same, and have the same type of greedy actions, so what's the point in anti-theism?

I agree. I think that the triumph of irony in permeating culture will eventually force people to come to terms with the fact that since irony can destroy everything, we either must embrace nihilism or realize that irony is only a tool, to be used in keeping us from taking ourselves too seriously. At that point I think we can begin to embrace the transcendent.

And since the dawn of time the western world has steadily been becoming less religious, therefore the discussion leads somewhere. The fact that the discussion is illegal in a lot of the MIddle East is a factor on the mess they're in over there.

It's irrelevant what the leaders want. The fact that religion is used as a tool for recruitment and demagoguery is reason enough to repudiate it, especially if the holy books preach sexism and xenophobia and leaders just need to use that.

Plus, it's not only about war, but about sexism and stupid laws.

all wars, at their core, are about fudge.

Some of us have been on Veeky Forums a long time and have still been Christian. It's just that recently Christianity has gained more appreciation.

Although I'll say to the OP that you're a bit late. Christianity was a big deal on Veeky Forums as far back as 2014.

Kierkegaard happened.
First comes the aesthetic phase, but there man must despair. Then comes the ethic phase and again man must despair here. Only in the religious phase can you find salvation.

I don't believe in God. I wish I could do the leap of faith, since I am despairing.

>I don't believe in God. I wish I could do the leap of faith, since I am despairing.
I'm in the boat buddy.

I've often felt that Kierkegaard protested too much. It's not a matter of a leap of faith, a Herculean effort on the part of the believer. It's a matter of seeking out and being open to God acting in your life.

How am I supposed to get sky cake after I die if you're over here talking about sky fudge?

It's quite Herculean if you simply don't believe (maybe even can't believe) in the supernatural.

man is only a vessel, so that fudge may be.

All the good shit it does daily isn't as urgent or as important to the news as the bad shit retard

/pol/ leaked all over the website

you and 23 other IPs are being used by people who are so new it hurts and you haven't read dawkins or your second post from a different IP would be "memes". fuck yourself

We realized that God is great.
Read Huysmans and Kierkegaard.

>the daily news
>evidence of anything pertaining to reality

religion is dogshit, though

> people would be relatively the same...so what's the point in anti-theism?

>even if we stop this evil, another may come

Stop being a fucking cuck

Sexism has nothing to with religion at least on México. Sexism in this place is from the macho attitude the culture has.
Not only one of the religious icons on México is a woman (Virgin Mary). But mothers and grandmas are usually seen with respect in most places.
t. Beaner

>tfw haven't been to see the Virgin of Guadalupe yet

It's probably the easiest pilgrimage for an American to make.

>I'm denouncing sexism in Latinamerica and the Middle East, for instance, which is propped up by religions.
This kind of retardation has no place in a dubs post.

More like military control based on socialism. Similar to Stalin model.

Japan is actually a mix of shintoism, budhism and after the war christiany started to get more popularity. I wouldn't really call them a country where atheism is predominant.
There's even a phrase about that.
Live like a shintoist, get marry like a Christian, die like a Buddhist.

WEW LAD
>DUDE LMAO LETS JUST FORGET ABOUT STALIN AND MAO WHO KILLED AROUND 100 MILLION PEOPLE
Holy shit how can some people be so retarded?

I've always been Christian, and wouldn't you know it; I haven't hated on any gay people, stoned anyone, fucked any family members, denounced any other religions, or tried to push my religion on anyone else.

Can non-Christians say the same thing? Largely, I think not.

I realized that being anti-religious was kind of like being anti-prostitution, anti-drugs, or anti-art. These are all things people seem to have been doing for as long they were people, if not longer. You are not going to stop it. You are not going to get rid of the need for it. Worse, you get rid of the forms of it that are relatively benign and adapted to your environment, you live a great big gaping niche for virulent and toxic strains to move in.

Plus, most of what anti-theists generally react to is human stupidity and corruption that they find in hierarchies and believers. If you think they're going to go away just because you remove religion from the equation, well, I have some bad news for you.