/gsg/ Grad School General: Welcome to the shitshow edition!

It's been a while since we had a grad school general. The other reached the bump limit, and I have been really busy and am now out of town. Let's get the ball going again.

So a lot of you that applied have been receiving, hopefully, acceptance letters. So "what now" you might be wondering. Sure you could go to but grad school in the sciences/math/stats is VERY different than in other fields, and let's help each other out

Share you concerns, questions, or just humble brag about your acceptance.

For those wondering about the academic honesty described in the last general, the premeds are appealing the decision against them, but the chair believes they will lose and have to take the F and transcript mark. It's a win for integrity.

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how much different is Ph.D than master's? I'm already a terrible worker, it takes me forever to write shit and I get bored reading papers day in, day out.

I'm almost done with Master's and got accepted to Ph.D but I feel like I'm too much of a lazy schlub and everyone will shit on me during it

Plan on finishing my Master's in aerospace engineering (at a state school) next spring, but I'm giving some thought to going into Penn State's online M.Eng. in Acoustics program. My current work involves structural dynamics, but I'd like to explore vibrations with solid-fluid interaction (which my school sucks at). My hope is to work in the field of acoustic fatigue (since I'm already an F&DT engineer) and/or more arts related things (instrument design, speaker/headphone design, interactive art involving sound, etc.)

Is this a retarded plan? Any advice?

Starting my PhD at MIT next semester. Pretty stoked.

Dunno, what's your work about? If you've made it through your master's, you're probably not as lazy as you say, but you may not be pursuing the field you're most passionate about. Maybe it wouldn't hurt to explore some opportunities outside of academia, take some time to learn and think, and revisit doing a Ph.D. once you have a real goal to work towards?

Anyone else here other than medfags deserve to be gassed.

Med students are too thick to do real science.

Medical doctors are some of the most dense people that I have the unfortunate experience of interacting with on a regular basis.

What are you doing your PhD? I'm doing my Nuclear Engineering masters right now and I'm thinking of applying to MIT for my PhD.

Don't you have textbooks to be memorizing?

I've never met a doctor that struck me as very bright

>the premeds are appealing the decision against them
On what grounds, I wonder?

I will be applying to grad school soon. Can anyone share experiences on how interviews go? Am I expected to have a ton of contact with professors I want to interview with (via email) or do I just interview with them and wait for their decision? Also are those post-interview get-togethers with current and potential grad students necessary?

undergrad pure mathfag here
>how much does the college of your graduate school matter?
>Does failing out of a college beforehand and doing bad in some classes during your time there affect you?

They always complain.

Say that when they take care of you in the operating room!

Your job exists out of memorizing encyclopedias. I hope you're ready to get fucked into the ass by AI in the coming decade. Because you'll be a glorified nurse.

At least go for surgeon.

Wrong quote

Surgery is where the robots will take over. Diagnosticians stand a better change of keeping their jobs.

hey /gsg/ is functional analysis a spicy enough topic for me to do research in? i have been reading a lot but I'm not sure what qualifies as "modern" enough.

just got into my masters for applied math. it's at the same uni as my undergrad, so it looks like i will be able to start a research project with one of my professors this summer. (already praying my funding will be approved and i still have two months left on my bachelor's.)

if i get it, then i can quit my shit wageslave job and then be an academic slave.

I want to do math grad school, but it'll be hard to do graduate level classes before my fourth year. Is this a problem?

I'm a PhD Physics student in only my second-to-last year and I am ready to fucking an hero myself

interview was easy they basically were like here is our offer come see how you like out school, talk to some people. accept the offer if you want.
yes you can still do plenty of work in it. i saw a talk about new research in triple integral operators. there's a decent amount of functional stuff. academic slave is shit honestly the students are such little shits and teaching sucks shit. its like a really bad service job as a tard wrangler with no prestige
im also doing a phd and an hero is a daily consideration. considering doing something else instead but that might suck too
just read and work on the material yourself. tell the department you are applying to that you did. it will help. research experience helps a lot too.

Nah, surgery will be assisted by robots. But we'll still need humans to direct them.

IBM Watson is already gives more accurate diagnoses than any doctor.

How soul crushing is grad school? Speaking as someone starting this fall.

Which would you guys choose out of these schools if you could go for in-state prices?

>UW-Seattle
>UC-Berkeley
>UC-Los Angelas
>Columbia
>NYU
>Boston University
>Minneapolis-Twin Cities
>University of Portland
>University of Pittsburgh

None desu

It's ok unless you like money

>triple integral operators
>thought you were throwing me a spicy meme
>look it up
>research published as recent as 2016
here is an example of an eastern paper:
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Oh shit. Looks like I'm specializing well. Maybe I'll write about eigenvalues of projection operators of arbitrary functions into function subspaces

Is Duke's Genetics program any good? It's the only school that accepted me...

it's certainly better than nothing.
you can always change specializations later

Starting PhD at Oxford this October. Pretty hyped but worried I wont be able to cope with the workload. Alongside starting our research we need to take some classes which are meant to be very intense.

Other than that, how is the social atmosphere in your groups? Do you go to the pub or stuff like that? Do you tend to socialise with everyone in the group or just other PhD students?

>boston university, columbia, NYU
>in-state prices
They're private schools mang they don't do in-state tuition

Also wtf for sciences Berkeley is the only correct answer on your list. Maybe Michigan, Wisconsin, Illinois UC, North Carolina Chapel Hill, or UT if they're around but fuuuuuuuck man

i specifically chose to say that since it was so seemingly spicy.
ive mostly done stuff in combinatorics and convex geometry, lookong for a dissertarion adviser atm. there is one who does convex geometry but has a lot of students.

Tell us the subject dickweed.

Gender studies in Africa.

>PhD
Hmm Hmm, DPhil

I haven't been to Veeky Forums in quite a while, but I remember from the early days that there were hardly any PhD students around. Kinda nice to see that you guys are growing up and climbing up the ladder.

I just pulled in my first reasonably large grant. Pretty stoked. It'll fund me for at least 2 years and I'll be able to hire a small army of RA's to do the grunt work.

Please buy Hearts of Iron IV.

>in-state prices?
Fuck off, this is a grad thread.

>Also are those post-interview get-togethers with current and potential grad students necessary?
That's almost the whole point of the visit, spergo. You're supposed to learn about what it's like to be in the department so you can decide which one suits you.

Does anyone know if American graduate schools accept three year bachelor degrees? I am from Sweden where bachelor degrees are only three years long since I don't have any general requirements like in the US. I would like to do a PhD in the US and was wondering if it was possible.

Vad studerade du i Sverige? Är det inte ett av de bättre universiteten är det nog svårt.

Jag pluggar teoretisk fysik i Lund.

Well, it's the same thing. I don't get why Oxford have to be pretentious and different about it, everywhere else in the UK uses 'PhD' as far as I'm aware.

Do you study there?

What if I only care about quality of science?

/gsg/ huh?

Reminder to report and ignore shitposting

WHITE AND BASED

>3 days after OP
How does he do it so fast????

Hi what kind of scientific diploma is this? Thanks in advance. Hugs and kisses xox :)

Anyone doing grad school for machine learning / deep learning? What's it like? I'm considering applying after this year but I'm on the fence about it given the fact that a lot of developments are happening outside of academia. Would I have a harder time going into industry with just a bachelor's degree and some side projects I've made on the subject?

I didn't even finish high school

NIGGER

La plata

hey dudes, just wanted to ask how tough can a Masters and maybe later a PhD in physics be? I already took CS (eurofag, so 3 years) with a minor in math and going for a major in physics (above average uni, good cs and phys programs, math as well). just wondering as that is my goal as of right now. thanks in advance

DO IT FOR HIM

Daily reminder Veeky Forums is nothing but undergrads

The one and only actual grad student thread sinks like a lead weight and is half full of prospective undergrads anyhow

Less than 5% of Veeky Forums does not fall into the category of autistic math/physics freshman with superiority complexes. This board is trash kek

how is that surprising? it's always been that way. it's always most active around the time acceptance letters start getting sent out, and the very beginning of fall semester when people start college.

>Shitposts instead of contributing anything useful to the thread
Here's your (((You)))

It's completely unsurprising

Hence the "daily reminder"
I wish these fags would actually talk about science and not "muh school, muh .999=1" lmao

not a heinous offence if sage'd

metaposting regarding board quality can at least encourage people to (hopefully) at least discuss the board topic

Would you recommend first getting a M.S. and then joining my local air force for 13 years (minimum contract length for officers without a useable degree, cause you would get a B.S. and M.S. in engineering at a military university while in) or joining directly after finishing your B.S. and getting your desired M.S. in your late 30s after you leave service?

3rd year mechanical engineer, hoping to get into a top 5 aerospace school in the US for a MSc in Aerospace engineering

How do I do so? I have no research experience whatsoever. Don't know if my industry experience matters but I've interned at Boeing and SpaceX

Nah there are plenty of smart doctors, the trouble is that the field is filled with people who are hard-working but disinterested or depressed (sometimes due to workload). They get cynical, they stop giving a shit, and they stop learning. Some sooner than others. And then, it just comes down to how much money they make.

I can't imagine why not, maybe depends on the field.

In my field PI's don't give a shit about your coursework as long as you've demonstrated via publications/conference abstracts that you're capable of collecting quality data and rec letters that state you're capable of learning lab techniques without someone holding your hand. Also valuable if you're capable of publication-tier writing and stats/programming.

How to get into machine learning masters with math undergrad?

But why? Aerospace is kill

>How to get into machine learning masters with math undergrad?
How to get in [Any remotely theoretical CS field] with math undergrad: 1. learn basic programming skills (which, as a mathematician, you should have already done)
2. just apply. Some programs may have some minor specific requirements or other criteria, but in general, a math undergrad is a lot better preperation to CS grad (is a masters considered 'grad'?) than a CS undergrad.

How hard is it to go upwards for grad school?

I go to Florida Atlantic for undergrad and want to at least get into UF or equivalent for grad school

He is probably just shitposting to cast doubt on wether or not you are actually going to be a PhD or DPhill at Oxford

>this is what mathsuckers actually believe

Going to do some form of space engineering, not sure what I'd do otherwise. Not going to be technician-level responsible with a bachelors for the rest of my life.

I may be exaggerating a bit, but apart from a few programs, an undergrad CS program is a worse CS research than undergrad math.

t. Math and CS major

last year of my math major. how hard is a carreer in research in math?

Thanks for contributing to a healthy board culture!

I'm an actual grad student.

Aurora is the only game I need

I went to FGCU and am probably going to UF for grad school (depending on which offer I accept)

Decent amount of undergraduate research, being a teaching assistant, and giving presentations are what helped me be competitive

I have until tomorrow to choose between Case Western and York (applied math phd). whelp..

York University in Canada or the University of York in the UK?

In Canada, sorry - didn't know there was another.

I'm from Toronto, but I go to UofT. Anything you'd like to know?

You don't need to visit to gauge that. Anyways, you'll do better work if you have peers you get along and can collaborate with.

>I'm from Toronto, but I go to UofT. Anything you'd like to know?

Why say but when and is clearer?

The first clause of the sentence states I'm from Toronto, the implication being that because I'm from the same city as York University, I should be familiar with the school. "But" is used to qualify the extent of my knowledge by letting people know I go to another school in Toronto. Furthermore, without context "but" draws a distinction or difference, thus providing more information than "and". For example

>I grew up in Chicago, same city Obama's from, but I was raised in the north side of the city.

The use of "but" implies Obama's from the south side, this couldn't be gleaned using "and". Thus my post taken on its own implies that going to UofT may hinder my ability to provide relevant information, which is certainly the case and what I wanted to communicate.

A few grad students I spoke with at York mentioned $500-600/month basements apartments around U of T campus. Can you confirm or deny this? Also, do you live on campus or elsewhere, just curious?

Cheers man.

PHD = Pretty Huge Dick.

$500-$600 is pretty low. Maybe a basement apartment shared with another occupant. I honestly can't imagine getting a whole basement to yourself, especially around UofT, for that price. Then again, I've never looked too deeply in that price range.

If you do come to Toronto, avoid Jane and Finch, Malvern, Rexdale and Regent Park. If you're extra paranoid like me, look up the city's crime maps as well. As a general rule of thumb, Jewish neighbourhoods are pretty safe. The neighbourhoods around York are pretty bad. I should probably tell you there was a shooting at York a few years ago, but it was a one-off thing and no one died (I think). I'm willing to bet no one at York told you about it though.

Cites to find an apartment include
kijiji
craigslist
padmapper
viewit

word! Thanks for the heads up and the advice, for sure. It seems pretty chill over there, I am from Cleveland feels a whole lot worse.

Aside: want to exchange emails or somethin'? Chances of heading to York are about 99% I'm just a bit scared to embark on a relatively new life! Case is close, easy, and comfortable but I'm not feeling the projects. For what I study, York is among the best, and Toronto is definitely an awesome place.

If your grades were decent and you have good letters of recommendation you should be good.

Yeah, kinda retarded. Getting into art with an engineering master's is stupid. Sound apparatus design is a different story though

Same story brah, we'll make it. Most baller prof's are lazy as shit anyway

Same premeds that cheated?

I was on course for a 1st but came down with depression, almost failed a class (42%), and dropped out of my integrated masters ending up with a BSc and dropping down to a 2:1.

I've had a job over a year but it sucks, I want to go back and do a masters properly this time.

Will that 42% and not getting a 1st rule me out of any decent masters / phd programs?

Hello Veeky Forums
I'm french so I'm not sure there's an exact equivalent of grad school here. However, I'm finishing a master degree and about to get started on a PhD so I figured it'd be okay to post here.

The theme of my master degree was arithmetic geometry, and while I did okay, I did not have exceptionnal notes, mostly because I'm a bit depressed and lack motivation and also because I couldn't into algebraic geometry.
Anyway, I'm working on my master thesis now and learning algebraic geometry from books, understanding it and enjoying it for the first time.
But I'm also very attached to doing my PhD in the town I live in now and PhD offers in arithmetic and in algebraic geometry are getting scarce. However, there's a lot of place in model theory, and more precisely in field model theory.
Now I don't know much about logic but it seems I could like it and I always likes field theory and Galois theory when I was an undergrad. I've sent a mail to the head of the local logic team director and we have an appointment next week, but I'm afraid I'll regret algebraic geometry.
Am I fucking up, Veeky Forums ?

>tl;dr Thinking of moving from arithmetic/algebraic geometry to field model theory because there are more PhD offers but I don't know what I'm getting into.

Cornell detected that I'm a brainlet but I did get into syracuse engineering

There seems to be stuff happening at the boundary between model theory and arithmetic geometry (see Fried & Jarden - Field Arithmetic (this one is a Galois theory textbook but it goes incredibly deep into it and has a serious model-theoretic slant), Bouscaren - Model Theory and Algebraic Geometry or Nicaise et al. - Motivic Integration and its Interactions with Model Theory and Non-Archimedian Geometry) but it seems to be more of a Paris thing. I think the Lyon model theory team is more into stability theory (it relates to algebraic groups, but it may be a bit further from what you're interested into), but I guess the head of the department knows that better than I do.
Besides, pragmatically, it doesn't seem like logic is a very smart move career-wise (not that arithmetic geometry is either, obviously, but it's fashionable, whereas logic is both obscure and not that fashionable) so I'm not sure whether you should make it the main topic of your research.

Grad school is everything 'beyond' a bachelor's.

I don't think the topic of a math PhD determines the rest of your career.

Paul Halmos even believes it wise to do something completely different after finishing a PhD. Although this man is a few mathematical generations old by now, but I don't expect math to be so heavily specialised these days that simply learning the theory of a field takes more time than learning how to do research.

Of course, this would depend on the conditions and preferences for postdocs. I think the best thing to do is to simply ask your supervisor.