What is Pierrot le Fou of literature?

People who don't have a dumb smile on their face while they watched 90% of Godard's 60's films for the first time are not to be trusted

If you weren't smiling when you watched masculin feminine you are not to be trusted

If you weren't smiling during that one slow, apartment bed scene in Breathless you aren't to be trusted

If you weren't smiling during the dance scene of Bande a Parte you aren't to be trusted

Anyone who doesn't think Godard is fucking great and fun to watch is not to be trusted

Au contraire. People who actually over worship Godard are people that should never be trusted. I've known their kind and they are the worst. I do think Godard had made some good films but that's it.

/tv/ refugee here

Holy shit Veeky Forums I thought better of you
Can't believe you faggots are masturbating to the most overrated, pseudo-intellectual hack to ever shit on a screen

There is absolutely no emotion in his work, just "neat" references and "neat" editing. He experiments for the sake of experimenting, not because he thinks he could better express what he wants to express through a new method. Truffaut, Resnais, fuck even Varda all shit all over his unwatchable dribble. Shame on you Veeky Forums

fuck back off to masturbating to capes

>I’ve never gotten anything out of his movies. They have felt constructed, faux intellectual, and completely dead. Cinematographically uninteresting and infinitely boring. Godard is a fucking bore. He’s made his films for the critics. One of the movies, Masculin, Féminin, was shot here in Sweden. It was mind-numbingly boring.
-Ingmar Bergman on Godard the hack

this thread's been up for almost 24 hours and not one musil poster. Veeky Forums's getting degenerate about its degeneracy

>when ikealand calls you boring

>implying Bergman isn't the definition of kino

>when tv thinks anyone understands or cares about their nadsat
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if you're a male and you're making posts this absolutely tumblr then you are not to be trusted

Not an argument

I'm not massive on Godard but I appreciate this sentiment. I feel the same way about The Beatles 2bh

I'm on team Truffaut, sorry.

a shopping list for whole foods of 17yr old blonde dumb fuck who has been learning french for two years and won't find the money for that abortion of hers humanity has been begging for

The 400 Blows is one of the sweetest and most beautiful films I've seen. What is the lit equivalent?

nice Appeal to Authority, bro

as if Bergman is the Final Word on all matters cinematic anyway

Mark Twain

>muh bergman
>muh stylized dramaten acting even though it's film
>muh foreigners don't care because it's basically a silent film for them
Why isn't >reading translations a meme with film? It applies much more there.

>>muh
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>Why isn't >reading translations a meme with film?

Great post.

Team Truffaut FTW!!

I wish I knew of the lit equivalent as well. It's certainly not Mark Twain, as someone else suggested.

There is no lit equivalent, it is pure cinema

Correct

I really hope this is just an extremely ironical post

>why isn't >reading translations a meme with film?

because film is an artform primarily told through
images. The images in a film have a far greater cumulative power than the dialogue. Plus it's far easier to approximate dialogue through translation than an entire 300-800+ page block of text.

I wish Veeky Forums would stop acting like an authority on cinema because they watched a handful of Tarko/v/sky films and consider his work "transcendent"

missing the point but thanks for playing

forgot to mention this, but Godard is only marginally better than Tarkovsky by virtue of his post-La Chinoise work. His best film is Hail Mary, which hasn't been mentioned once ITT

celine
youtube.com/watch?v=nmzZ_VPofbA
they all (post-la chinoise) are poorly rated by everyone

balzac

I cannot stand Godard and I've tried many times to give him chance after chance.

He wants to be Alain Resnais or Agnes Varda but has this central contempt for cinema as a medium and its audiences. All of his experimentation is empty and solely for the sake of experimentation and always feels patronizing and didactic toward his audience.

Bergman, specifically Summer With Monika, is a major inspiration for Godard and I think the difference between the 4th wall break in Summer With Monika and with the 4th wall breaks that Godard and Brecht used is illustrative.

In Summer With Monika, Harriet Anderson's character is betraying her husband and newborn child by returning to a carefree life of drinking and anonymous sex and her gaze into the camera is the character showing that she knows that the audience is judging her and it gives you a unique insight into the internal struggle and shame of the character.

When Brecht and Godard use distancing, it is basically to tell the audience "Heh, don't you get it now, dummy? THIS IS A MOVIE! IT'S NOT REAL". And really honestly it's usually nothing more than that, than the Author underestimating the intelligence of his audience.

i dont know about Godard, but you misunderstand Brecht. the alienation and distancing is confrontational, you are forced to coolly and clear-headedly tackle whatever issues Brecht is presenting, more than just DUDE THEATRE LMAO

Should I watch this film?

I have read several of his plays, seen one performance and seen one of his film adaptations, in all I felt the same way.

I think the theory behind the technique is interesting but I don't think it can reliably achieve the results desired.

Admittedly, Brecht is a lot more subtle than Godard and his use of it works more often but I think the execution is often the problem with it.

I will also admit though that I understand far less about theater than I do film. I do not claim to be an expert on Brecht.

Pynchon definitely has some Godard moments. I'm thinking Crying of Lot 49

What's the Tarkovsky of literature?

tarkovsky