Thanks for the money faggots!

Thanks for the money faggots!

wrong board this isn't tv

He's been writing SOIAF for years...and It took him HOW LONG to get published? He's going to be dead before he even gets a chance to enjoy those royalties.

Imagine how comfy it must be when you're a hack and have your old fantasy series get picked up by a major television company and realize that you won't have to write or do shit ever again. Just get more and more fat and waste money until you die of heart failure. The dream.

I've been wondering. The people like you, who call Martin, King, Rowling etc hacks - do you honestly think yourself capable of writing anything of their level? Or even close? I'm not saying that ASOIAF is some high art literature, but shitting out 5000 pages of entertaining fantasy about the expansive fictional world with characters in the hundreds clearly takes tremendous effort.

Hi George, OP here,
Never called you a hack.

And no, I am not capable of writing anything like that.

You are still a faggot.

I have only called Martin a hack, and that is because, seemingly, thanks to new-found fame and money, he doesn't want to write anymore. He has given away his ideas for the rest of the story(ies) to some tv-producers and will spend his remaining years making up excuses as to why his writing progress is going so slow.

Not really. Writing shitty fantasy is literally the easiest thing to do. Example? Literally every fantasy book fucking ever.

I have no desire to write crappy ("good") genre fiction, but I'm certainly able to do it.

>then why dont you do it hurrr
Because it's degrading.

>but you'd be rich as fuark hurrrr
Probably not since I don't write in English; anyway, I don't do it for the money.

Yes, creating a fantasy world takes some effort, but not every effort is for the better. And if ASOIAF is "tremendous effort", then how would you call what Balzac or Dostoevsky did?

The Human Comedy by Balzac and SOIAF are both tremendous efforts by the authors. The only difference is if it wins over the intended audience. "Genrefags" eat up SOIAF and "litfags" eat up The Human Comedy, but both are bare as fuck and really masturbatory in their presentation.

One could say that The Brothers Karamazov is degrading, because it was literally degrading. Ivan Bronin thought it was fucking dumb and it almost became a shame work.

Either way, Challenging critics to do better doesn't work with writing because that's the job of other authors, not critics.

They're memeing. Veeky Forums is a hipster board. We can only admit to liking the classics that nobody reads or stuff people haven't heard of.

The first 3 books are okay.

I must confess that I appreciate the effort of imagination GRRM achieved, independently from the fact he's a meh stylist. So I'm not going to read his books; but the creation of a credible, coherent world is a laudable thing, because that world itself is already a work of art.

>not even envisioning the possibility that some people prefer quality works, for real

Does it reassure yourself to think it's just a meme?

>One could say that The Brothers Karamazov is degrading, because it was literally degrading. Ivan Bronin thought it was fucking dumb and it almost became a shame work.

It mystifies me that someone could write Demons then write something as garbage as The Brothers Karamazov.

It doesn't matter, i couldn't care less about most of his characters anyway. Plus Dance with Dragons was a near unreadable shitfest.

I have the reverse opinion.

I share your opinion.

King? Not a hack.
Rowling? Can't honestly say, never read any of hers.
But Martin?
>Sunset found her squatting in the grass, groaning. Every stool was looser than the one before, and smelled fouler. By the time the moon came up she was shitting brown water. >The more she drank, the more she shat, but the more she shat, the thirstier she grew, and

MOTHER. FUCKING. SHIT-ASSED. WORTHLESS. HACK.

>be GRRRRRRM
>get rich off of fantasy series
>take 4 years to write the first 3 books
>take over 17 years for the next 3
>they're lower quality to boot
>make readers slog through 5000+ pages for an ending that will never be made
>anyone who criticizes his lazyness gets called "entitled" by an army of fanboys
>"He doesn't owe you an ending after spending money as well as dozens of hours of your time following the story"

Donate to my charity you faggots

They're popular, so they're shit.
t. Veeky Forums

this is the best argument on this faggot of a thread.

I honestly think I could beat Rowling, since she doesn't even bother to differentiate the tone of her characters, or that could just be the British accents lol. I'm not sure about GRRM though, I have no desire to write food porn.

So what's wrong with that passage?

i dont have to write well to know someone is a bad writer

>don't know how to drive a car
>going with my gf to a party, a friend will drive us there
>on the way to the party, he drives through an intersection while the traffic light is red
>a truck hits us
>car is completely destroyed
>my gf is crying and bleeding to death right before my eyes
>in horror, I yell at my friend and call him an idiot for being such a horrible driver
>"Nuh-uh, you can't complain because you can't even drive! Look, I drove you for two kilometres while you can't even start the engine! You should at least respect my effort."

He actually CAN'T complain because he can't drive, which defeats the purpose of comparing it to "you can't write it better"

In your fantastic, insightful metaphor, what does the crash symbolize in GRRM's writings?
Because it seems to me like your friend is chugging the car along just fine while you scream in his ear about his driving ineptitude

>what does the crash symbolize in GRRM's writings?
None of his books are particularly good, but if I had to pick one, it would be AFFC.
I hope you don't actually think that GRRM is "chugging along just fine" at this point.

That's, just, like, your opinion, senpai. Car crash is objectively, irrevocably terrible. When did this happen in GURMs books?

As I said, AFFC. Did you honestly enjoy that piece of shit?
Yeah, I'd say it's bad objectively. It spends 1000 pages with next to no plot development, no deeper ideas behind it (that religious stuff could've been expanded nicely, but it ended up as just a bunch of quasi-christian platitudes) but with those tasteful descriptions of Sam's fat pink mast, a child vomiting all over itself and an another pissing itself.

>completely serious objective opinion

I can't decide what's worse. You, or you. Because AFFC just took 3 pages longer from the last formula he used in AGOT to reveal the primary plot milestone.

I'd respect him more if he said he was too old and rich to give a shit about whether he finished it or not.

The blog posts he does every three months or so saying he hasn't been able to finish it in time for yet another deadline and how he feels so terrible about it are what piss me off.

>if you don't want to watch me stream fallout 4 for another 12 hours you're scum and should go fuck yourself.

>what does the crash symbolize
pancakes

All these people are hacks who write genre fiction aimed towards plebes in order to get their books turned into movies and tv, its all about money, not writing a good book.
Its all formulaic hero's journey garbage repackaged over in over again aimed a tweens.
Literally anyone who took a community college creative arts class can write this stupid shit

Like, if you understand how capitalism works you dont even have to worry about getting a book deal.
Just write some stupid shit about a young (girl/boy) who finds out, actually, they are king of the vampires and they discover the magical world of rangalfork, and they have defeat lord dorlmbelt, and they make some friends along the way, oh wait, some of them turn into enemies, and actually, some enemies turn into friends, oh no, lord dolmbelt killed your wise vampire teacher!!! time to learn the secret of your true past, also chase after the mcguffins which will save the world and end lord dolmebelt once and for all!
"NOW A HIT MOVIE"