>originally quite ambivalent towards women
>later became a misogynist due to his lack of success with them
Why does this always happen?
Originally quite ambivalent towards women
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>due to his lack of success with them
why do women always assume that's why they are hated? is it because it makes them feel better about themselves?
They assume by default they're just as intelligent as men but never provide an argument for it.
Probably influenced by an all male political homosexual power cult.
>say that women are different from men and explain exactly how
>LOL U A MISOGYNIST WHY DO YOU HATE WOMEN????
every fucking time
it's like mary wollstonecraft or jean's cucker didn't exist or something
The misogyny = lonely men thing is pretty fucking misleading. You could be openly misogynistic in the 19th century and have a wife, no contradictions really.
Also his perspective on women is often better than his contemporaries, even if they're shitty and wrong alot of the time.
Trash.
Provide a rebuttal then.
Your not real
>implying having a wife who is oppressed, unhappy and unfulfilled by 19th century society makes a man less lonely
>implying that "there were worse cases of blatant misogyny" is a valid argument
/lit9k/ shows its true face again
It's probably due to his/their lack of success with women
the problem with dismissing anti-women arguments with ad-homs on the authors lack of pussy-gettin' is that it doesn't work against gays or guys who fucked a lot of chicks...peter theil is a woman hater with a philosophy degree from Stanford and he's billionaire who chills with Trump...saying he's "just mad cuz he can't get laid" doesn't work
>people who are shunned reciprocate the feelings
shocker
>later became a misogynist due to his lack of success with them
That didn't happen, though.
Nietzsche was far from a misogynist - but the compliments he pays to women are so veiled, so back-handed, that idiots always assume otherwise.
He notes at one point, for example, that whatever a women might suffer - she can at least console herself with the thought that she is able to enslave a man.
He didn't like feminism PRECISELY because it sought to put women on an equal footing with men - which to Nietzsche would have been a demotion of sorts. That women have a certain mystique, their own way of seeing the world and one that is wholly alien to that of men - this is what he admires.
He arguably does not see women as inferior, superior or even equal - but something different, and any attempt to erase that difference is but a folly.
oh for ppl who don't follow silicon valley gossip: theil is gay
Funnily enough, we're a long way off from the degeneracy that existed in the Weimar Republic.
I'm talking kids-giving-BJs-for-a-Deutschmark-tier degeneracy.
The Right are getting it easy when all they have to worry about is trannies using bathrooms.
>implying 19th century women were unfulfilled just because they couldn't be blue haired dyke trannies getting abortions every week
>implying that historical context is irrelevant and we should view everything from the lens of modernity isn't a retarded argument
Nice try.
To what?
>oppressed, unhappy and unfulfilled by 19th century society
Do you have any evidence to support this extraordinary claim that women were unfulfilled and unhappy in the 19th century? Studies show a reversed correlation between self-reported happiness of women and social "progress" for women.
It's almost as if having lots of children to take care of makes women feel fulfilled and happy, whereas putting off having children so they can get useless degrees and proceed to be wage slaves during their prime reproductive years does the opposite.
correlation is not causation user
also you can't apply trends of the last 35 years to the fucking 19th century
>correlation is not causation
why do leftists parrot this?
correlation does not necessitate causation, but it can indicate it
>correlation is not causation user
No, but it is suggestive.
>also you can't apply trends of the last 35 years to the fucking 19th century
The trends of the last 35 years fly in the face of millions of years of evolution, so. Women evolved to be gratified by child rearing, it's a fucking fact.
This exactly
Feminism was a big shit-test and we all failed
>implying I'm a leftist
sure it can indicate it, but you can't make normative claims without extra research backing it up
>Tfw the only correct post ITT is a fucking frogpost
2017 is off to a shit start.
The user asserting that women were unhappy and unfulfilled in the 19th century due to "oppression" is the one who bears the burden of proof. I merely presented some evidence that suggests the contrary.
Oppression doesn't work that way. People can be oppressed and still feel happy and contented. Time to grow up a little and read more feminist texts instead of just 1984.
Please don't reproduce
I met many retarded people in my years on this site but you easily made it into the top 10 with this
You actually don't understand shit, so please let me give you this one advice, and please take it:
You are horribly stupid and it hurts, don't ever try to spread the shit you believe to know about anything ever again.
Now please try to think about the shit you're telling us here for at least 5 minutes and maybe you find the giant flaws in your logic all by yourself.
No one is here to give you private lessons. Maybe google "what makes linux distros different?".
If you still don't get it then, just kill yourself.
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so who gets to decide who's oppressed? privileged white males are going to tell 19th century women, muslim women, north korean farmers, etc. if they are "truly happy" or not? isn't that a kind of oppression? to have some overeducated rich dickhead tell you that you aren't smart enough to know you aren't happy? bro, check ur p
Shit! Forgot to replace the last part.
Can you pretend we are talking about GNU/Linux?
epic troll dude, you really will catch some fish with this hot bait
>call nietzsche's views on women shitty and wrong
>get called a robot
okay then
what does 'success' with women mean?
From anecdotal experience, I agree with Nietzsche's viewpoint.
nice way to dodge the question, scrub
it means u fuck them all the time and they suck ur dick whenever you want, basically if you don't use women like sextoys on the reg then you are a misogynist don't you know?
>Please don't reproduce
Too late for that friend. Maybe if your understanding wasn't so fundamentally limited to the realm of the virgin, you'd better understand that the posts you linked are far better informed than your own.
Try reading some feminist texts, or any sophisticated texts on oppression really.
>Try reading some feminist texts, or any sophisticated texts on oppression really.
Why would anyone put themselves through that?
>Try reading some feminist texts
Now that would be real oppression. LOL.
all that says is that people who are willing and able to write and publish books feel that other people living different lifestyles from their own choices are "oppressed"
opinion disregarded
>NEECHE IS A MISOGYNIST
>not understanding his writings within the time and place in which they were produced
>not reading on the use and abuse of history which directly tells you that the dumbest fucking thing you can do is project your values onto the actions of past people
>go read some books and figure out for yourself why i'm right
every fucking time
> the dumbest fucking thing you can do is project your values onto the actions of past people
> thinking all morals are relative
Look, user, I understand where you're coming from in this particular case, but this is the same sort of relativist mindset that allows liberals to overlook many of the horrors of the modern day Islamic world.
>implying a right-wing twat's bait question deserves sincerity
lel he's lucky i even responded seriously
I'm sick and tired of this dumbass "educated" mass of millennials coming to the amazing and insightful conclusion that people 100+ years ago had different values than us.
We need 5000 more blogposts of this in case we aren't aware yet.
>the le islam is evil meme
conservatives are even worse than liberals
But there are no sophisticated feminist texts. Your entire point is that the well educated are someone less able to understand something, this is contradictory non sense.
>You could be openly misogynistic in the 19th century and have a wife
This is still the case in the 21st century.
Tons of dudes getting laid like crazy with zero respect for women.
PC culture has killed any form of debate. Just use cheap ad hominem to not address the situation or scream that the other party is a horrible person for not being current year enough.
>Your entire point is that the well educated are someone less able to understand something, this is contradictory non sense.
what the actual fuck are you talking about?
>any opinion that isn't mine is bait and le troll
every fucking time
Female castration? Institutionalized rape harems? The total lack of rights for women? COMPLETELY FUCKING IRRELEVANT. We need a third bathroom type in McDonalds, anything less is EVILLLLLLLLLLL.
fucking idiot
wait i'm confused is islam oppressive to women, or an alternative lifestyle like bsdm relationships that should be respected?
Not really, you can't be nearly as open about it, but yes there's still plenty of misogyny, even some pretty overt today. Just listen to the lyrics of rap music.
Islam and free and safe societies don't go well together if you paid any attention.
So yeah, I think I'll be a prejudiced bigot in that case. Seems like colleges nowadays their main job is to undo young people's ability for pattern recognition.
Try reading the Wiki you linked, dumbass, there's no strawman here. Or will being actually informed on the matter discredit your thoughts on it, as your prior post indicates..
Of course that happens, and it happens in the Islamic areas of the world. Maybe you should read more and think about what before spewing your retarded shit. I mean that, really think, don't just kneejerk like all conservatives do.
>Tons of dudes getting laid like crazy with zero respect for women.
the biggest women haters are the ones who get the most pussy, either because they are secretly fags trying to look straight by fucking everything with a vag, or they are just so desensitized from fucking sluts that women seem retarded to them
Islamic areas of the world have undergone countless wars and oppression as a result of white niggers fucking up their countries. Some of those areas were pretty nice 60 years ago before white Christians fucked everything up.
Conservatives have the right idea of Islam. Leftists want to let them keep on undermining and destroying society everywhere, and invite them to destroy our own, while focusing on petty identity politics back home and pretending they are oppressed. If you had one iota of critical thinking you'd understand this, but sure, disregard it like any other opinion that doesn't fit into your ideological microcosm.
>hur hur i won't explain how i got z from x and y
opinion disregarded, go troll reddit with this low-tier bait.
if you actually lived in the actual world and not /r9k/, you would see this is untrue.
Good post, you really convinced me with those well-reasoned points and factual information.
Oh wait, conservatives don't have that, they only have hysterical ranting about concepts they don't even grasp.
the irony is staggering
>if you actually lived in the actual world and not /r9k/, you would see this is untrue.
dudes who actually like women end up in monogamous relationships eventually, if you're fucking a new chick every week then you probably like pussy but not women
right but russians just hacked our election, it's not fair it was HER turn and then putin stole the election and gave it to trump! liberals looks increasingly retarded these days.
>if i continue to yell and stamp my feet i can forever maintain my retarded belief systems
kek, you realize nobody is really reading your posts, or cares what you think and feel, yeah?
conservatives are children
They weren't nice 60 years ago. Stop producing fantasies you like to believe are true, but weren't.
Minority groups in the Islamic world have been literally stigmatized on medieval tier levels up until today without interruption.
You have your religion on your ID card in Lebanon for example.
I'm not trying to convince you, you can't be convinced, all of the facts and explanations have already been laid out before, in this very thread even. You want to be a victim, so you are. You want the right to be evil, so they are. Well have fun with that, all you're doing by being such a dumb petulant cunt is enabling the alt-right, Trump assuming office in a few weeks is the ultimate proof.
>noises
>mfw Hillary LITERALLY wanted to do the same thing she accuses Trump of doing in Palestine
>observer.com
lmao at democucks, their hypocrisy literally knows no bounds they're so desperate to be the victims they totally ignore reality
_donald
I though people with a 4th-grade reading level like Trump weren't allowed on Veeky Forums
Yeah it's not like the man who founded the religion raped children and enslaved women or anything lmao it's just a stupid meme lmao xD Islam isn't the problem!
LITERALLY A WHITE FUCKING WHALE
Hysterical conservatives hu? Unlike leftists who literally throw themselves into traffic shreeking about their loss: youtube.com
When will you guys admit your faction is the irrational one?
Your journalists constantly start articles with headlines "what Trump says here is scary!" or "we should be afraid of [insert white male thing]!" and then refer to the other group as fear-mongerers.
>noises
temper tantrums are funny
>>mfw Hillary LITERALLY wanted to do the same thing she accuses Trump of doing in Palestine
It's ok when we do it to brown people, since they aren't people. It's the same reason feminists don't care about actual feminist causes in the Islamic world, it doesn't fit the fucking narrative, what does fit the narrative is how poor and victimized the same people who fund terrorism and cut up the genitals of little girls are, we need to respect their religion after all, they are oppressed by George Bush.
>i can find one example of a retarded person ergo you are that person
the "logic" of you conservatives is fucking hilarious
To be fair, Hillary probably meant they should assassinate the opposing leader. Putin stands accused of hosting a bored basement dweller in his country who hacked Clinton's Yahoo.
I don't think the two are very comparable.
/r/the_donald called, reddit misses your witty posts and clever insights; you're actually not wanted here.
>I'm not trying to convince you, you can't be convinced, all of the facts and explanations have already been laid out before, in this very thread even. You want to be a victim, so you are. You want the right to be evil, so they are.
This is basically all it comes down. The entire leftist stance summed up in so many words.
Better luck next year guys. Oh wait, I mean in the next 4 years.
>81 replies
>22 (you)s
>for so little effort
conservacucks are so easy, you're the sluts of the rage-debate world.
>stop making fun of the religion of peace!
>he has pornographic bestiality images saved on his computer
kek, get a girlfriend
>Putin stands accused of hosting a bored basement dweller
Snowden made a 170k and had a stripper gf, but nice try at shutin/virgin shaming lol
Wow, are Clinton shills still out in force? I guess this is what blowing 1.2 billion on a losing campaign buys you.
>latimes.com
Oh well, at least you aren't doing it for free....right?
>mfw trump supporters complain about media bias
>mfw trump supporters complain about anti-white hate
>mfw trump supporters complain about misandry
>mfw trump supporters complain about islamification
>mfw trump supporters complain about globalization
literally the entire conservative platform is victimhood, for literally everything you accuse leftists of, you have at least 5 hypocrisies pointing right back at you
Snowden hacked Clinton's emails? TIL. Thanks Reddit!
>mfw i trigger a trump supporter and he starts spamming about clinton
you're so easy, you don't even get what's going on. it's like when you start vacuuming so the dog freaks out, you're operating on such a low level you don't even comprehend the conversation
>heterosexual men who claim to have their shit together support a cringe public speaker of a grandmom for president
I will never understand why. Just stay home.
>spend the entire thread samefagging your leftist bait
>LMAO REPBLIKEKS SO EZ
Sad.
the only "hacker" putin is hosting is Snowden unless you got some classified shit we don't know
Surely all those who hate child rape and sex enslavement are simply girlfriendless virgin losers!! Am I right fellow feminists and liberals?
it is sad, that you're such a loser you freak out like this on Veeky Forums. get a life
yeah but you don't have a girlfriend, so kek
>respond to every single post desperate to get the last post in samefagging all the way
>accuse others of being pathetic
ok user
now THIS is irony :-)