>Scientists know how sight works because of how light reflects off the lens of the eye >They know this because they can see this
ehhhh, does anyone else see the problem with this? Doesn't the 'seeing' precede the examination of the 'seeing'? Therefore how can we trust this scientific examination as to how sight works?
Hunter Wright
You are on the literature board, retard.
Kevin Lewis
This is Philosophy related, thanks.
Go back to where you came from
Jace Cruz
philosophy is also discussed here, you got caught being a little creepy man havent you?
Ethan Harris
All 'knowledge' is ultimately contingent upon faith, but not all faiths are equal
Isaiah Price
This. You can call me utilitarian but I always go with the most practical faith, what is most likely. So I do trust our senses, otherwise you have nothing to work with.
Benjamin Hughes
Wow what an incredible thinker you are
Cameron Torres
I am not. I have no time to think deep as I am busy with working and keeping my own company up. Life is good so no worries
Lucas Davis
You do realize that Goethe and Schopenhauer had a big part in developing the phenomenology of sight into something like our modern understanding of it?
Isaiah Brooks
You can have analytical knowledge of optics prior to any observation of lenses in the eye
Copernicus figured out heliocentrism before he could observe it just by fixing errors in Ptolemy, for example
"Concepts" are prior to any kind of empirical knowledge
Charles King
>when philosocuck attempts to STEM
Levi Hill
Both of you have entirely misunderstood the OP.
Thomas Price
Look up Goethe on theories of colour and vision.
Liam Clark
But I'm saying you can trust empirical knowledge precisely because of analytical knowledge
Isn't that his concern? Please explain if not
Dominic Clark
>I didn't read Plato
Literally book 6 of Republic. Google plato's "divided line"
Nathaniel James
You say this as if light refraction and the neurology behind inner eye reactions to said light can't be quantified, repeated and thoroughly tested. In your worldview, explain selective colorblindness and why it repeats in specific color ranges according to genetics, and describe the precise mechanism by which the eye prevents the gathering of valid information about its own internal workings. If you can't, you have little more than a conspiracy theory.
Joshua Williams
The scientific account for eyesight is not sufficient because it relies on what we perceive and its seemingly causal actions to explain sight. Perceiving light going into the eye/lens and examining photons does not provide a proper account of what 'seeing' is, rather, it only provides an account of what it is we are actually 'seeing'.
Do you understand?
Samuel Hughes
Why is everyone suggesting different figures without actually giving arguments?
Learn how to think for yourselves, morons.
Camden Bailey
Please think about your post before you click the burgers
Dominic Parker
I understand the argument, but it's honestly pretty facile. Hume argued along much the same lines and got thoroughly btfo'd by Kant.
>inb4 you ask me to spoonfeed you details one of the most well known debates in the history of Western philosophy
Read a book, you fucking nerd
Dominic Allen
I've read a bunch of Hume but never read him on sight, also, I don't like Kant, why? Because he was blown the fuck out multiple times, especially by Quine.
Robert Smith
>2 out of 3 suggest looking at Goethe >all these different names too complicated! Maybe check out some Goethe? Might be a waste of time for you though.
Tyler Collins
Fuck off, retard. I have read both Faust and the Sorrows of Young Werther.
Why do you retards all type like effeminate men?
Learn how to have a discussion instead of linking to other thinkers who do your thinking for you.
Plebeian retard.
Asher Hernandez
If you don't see how Hume's arguments on sense perception and empiricism apply to sight then I don't know how to help you
Andrew King
Epic argument.
Allow me to sum up what you have said throughout the entire thread:
>I don't know how to help you
Thanks, retard!
Blake Clark
>Scientists know how sight works because of how light reflects off the lens of the eye Scientists don't know how sight works, specifically how information travels through the optic nerve and is processed by the brain. The mechanisms involving chemical reactions are too slow and do no account for the transformation of the virtual image (which should be upside down) into our right side up world.
Tyler Garcia
Again check out his theories on vision, although maybe not bother desu.
Connor Young
I literally have his book 'Theory of Colours' on my shelf and is due to be read, retard.
Learn how to have a discussion.
Julian Walker
This is retarded, check out pic related. There are mysteries but not where you think.
Daniel Reyes
I gave a suggestion and you flounced around it, it was never a discussion. I sincerely hope you read it and understand it, but I won't get those hopes up.
Zachary Cook
1)Close your eyes 2)Open your eyes
How many theoretically possible reasons could there be for the differences between 1 and 2?
Hunter Torres
I will read it and take a shit in it just to piss you off.
I am not even joking either.
Charles Jones
>this user doesn't realize he's trapped in language
Camden Garcia
Oh no. Please do not stick your fingers in an electric socket too it would be too much.
Luis Wright
I'll stick them in your cunt instead.
Yes, I can tell you are a woman.
Chase Foster
>this user doesn't realize he's trapped in language >this user doesn't realize he's more trapped without it
Aaron Diaz
>when an adolescent sperg "writes tough" and overcompensates for his own insecure masculinity Good thread, loved every laugh
Nolan Jones
>>when an adolescent sperg "writes tough" and overcompensates for his own insecure masculinity
Projecting?
Ethan Gutierrez
>philposting
philposting is the cancer that's killing this board. go back to your containment.
Gavin Cooper
>he projects so often he instantly assumes others are projecting lol don't hurt me manly man