>tfw you fell for the "Engineering is superior to CS" meme >Did EE, have people tell me that there's jobs EVERYWHERE for it, and that a BS in EE can cuck CS BS holders out of jobs >the opposite is true
Every EE field that doesn't involve software is in "consolidation," and the salaries of pretty much every job that isn't in semiconductors are far from where even entry-level CS incomes are. Basically now that every Pajeet seems to know Cadence Virtuoso and Verilog, every EE company is trying their best to outsource and H1-B their workforce.
And no, YOU CANNOT GET A SOFTWARE ENGINEER POSITION, AN IT JOB, OR EVEN A BASIC CODE MONKEY INTERNSHIP IF YOU'RE NOT STUDYING CS, EVEN WITH A STELLAR PORTFOLIO
I won't even get started on Mechanical and Chemical Engineering.
If some of you engie students only picked the major for "muh job security," I implore you to immediately switch to CS. I fucked up, badly.
>YOU CANNOT GET A SOFTWARE ENGINEER POSITION IF YOU'RE NOT STUDYING CS
Keep telling yourself that lie, cs major.
Leo Jackson
>I didn't get any internships: The Post
Adrian Smith
>YOU CANNOT GET A SOFTWARE ENGINEER POSITION, AN IT JOB, OR EVEN A BASIC CODE MONKEY INTERNSHIP IF YOU'RE NOT STUDYING CS, EVEN WITH A STELLAR PORTFOLIO Yes, you can if you're not retarded. Third of entry level positions in big software houses are non-CS stemfags with 1 cs elective and 5 helloworlds on github. >muh job security Is excellent for all the subjects you listed, Also your inability to get a first job has nothing to do with job security. Should have been less braindead and gotten better grades and internships.
Levi Green
I got 3 paid internships.
Juan White
>Visual Basic I feel sorry for you, user...
Ian Nelson
I graduated with a 3.82, faggot and have internships under my fucking belt.
meanwhile, my friend with a 2.8 in CS already got a SETI position at Google at 92k starting, and he's graduating in two weeks.
FUCKING ABSOLUTELY KEKED. i seriously feel bad for chemical engineering students.
Jonathan Thompson
Should have gone for the patrician major: Computer Engineering. Best of both worlds.
Caleb Wood
Unironically this, or Civil for maximum job security. Anyone doing any form of engineering other than these two is wasting their time.
Hunter Powell
trip dubsman is right
>not being a glorified plumber/hvac guy
fuckin' ez money.
John Taylor
Did you apply to google?
Michael Diaz
Yeah, last year, along with a bunch of others.
They just went straight for the rejection email.
Levi Perry
no phone screening, either. My CS friend who got hired didn't even do an internship, and his portfolio is pretty run-of-the-mill
Brayden Evans
out of curiosity, what is this friend's ethnicity? i promise i'm not just some /pol/ shill, but google is very very known for giving hiring preference to jews
Thomas Edwards
>I have a perfect resume but can't get a job Well either you're lying or a terminal autist. EE may be not as popular as CS (what is really), but it's hardly a struggling major. Pretty much every ever so slightly above average EE student from my uni got job offers before graduating.
Dylan Jenkins
Hispanic.
Isaiah Young
>implying illegals can get jobs in major companies
top kek
Brayden Cruz
>OU CANNOT GET A SOFTWARE ENGINEER POSITION, AN IT JOB, OR EVEN A BASIC CODE MONKEY INTERNSHIP IF YOU'RE NOT STUDYING CS, EVEN WITH A STELLAR PORTFOLIO >second year math undergrads with 2 months of tutorial in java routinely get SWE internships really made me think there
Xavier Hall
If it helps, I went to UCSD, and my CS friend goes to UC Riverside.
I don't know how he's cucking me from a school like that.
Daniel Stewart
also OP, EE is a very respected field, it's basically the number two next to CS for a nice starting salary and job opps. Are you sure you're not just fuckign something up?
Dominic Wright
this may be a stupid question, but don't the big software boyz in california basically only hire from Berkeley and caltech?
Caleb Kelly
>>second year math undergrads with 2 months of tutorial in java routinely get SWE internships lol no
John Harris
no, he's right. for some reason, maths students are right in the running with pure cs students for cs jobs.
>inb4 cs is a subset of math
Yeah yeah I know but you literally just get the degree for the sake of people wanting you to have one, you'll never actually use 90% of what you learn at uni
Luke Thompson
lol yes. a couple of cs electives is more than enough for most internships
Levi Hernandez
it definitely helps. you don't even have to go to Berkeley. they hire a lot from places like SJSU, as well, so the fact that so many of my old classmates from UCSD are having trouble as well, is mind-boggling.
i guess the location meme really is true
Nathan Campbell
literally every EE in my circle of acquaintances got a job except the ones who didn't look
>YOU CANNOT GET A SOFTWARE ENGINEER POSITION some guys even with 2.8, 2.9 gpa got 70k starting as software analyst (aka codemonkey)
you must have either done really shit, or you aren't willing to move
Tyler Bennett
This. Lmao @ engineering students who think they can get those internships tho.
Chase Miller
>do nuke eng >compete for like 3 jobs across 50 states JUST U S T
Landon Watson
What school? I had a 3.8 when I graduated from UCSD
Julian Anderson
did you really not know what you were getting into?
Carter Garcia
b-but muh rigor
Dylan Campbell
>literally every EE student I know from my uni got poached by Intel/Infineon/Siemens/ABB before graduating Something tells me you're a lying brainlet, OP.
Juan Taylor
Nope, fell for memes. Luckily my marks and electives ended up allowing me to go for CS postgrad though
Nathan Sanchez
you can always join the Navy
Jaxon Rogers
...and get paid like 1/10th of your worth. Also, the military paying for school and/or paying student loans for you is a complete fucking meme. They pay for like $4,000 a year or so max.
Noah Robinson
>...and get paid like 1/10th of your worth well maybe you should've done something a bit more marketable HMMM
Hudson Bennett
>They pay for like $4,000 a year or so max
This is just straight wrong. t. gi bill welfare leech
Robert Smith
really? because a good lad of mine is in the marines and they're not paying his debts nor will they shell out more than 4k a year for him. futher he can only take classes within driving distance of his base (read: he can't take classes)
Jayden Price
loan reimbursement =/= the post 9/11 GI Bill
completely different program. its why if you are going to do the military it is far better to do it before you get your degree.
>t. former gi bill welfare leech who is now a federal worker leech
Alexander Campbell
>I saw the phrases "C" and "C++" so it's automatically a CS job
This is ambiguously an EE job, not work for software engineers you nigger
Henry Sullivan
>Cuck Engineering
You are literally cucked by CS major in software and cucked by EE in hardware. Awful choice
Nicholas Russell
Every EE major who isn't a brainlet can get any CS job.
Programming is literally doing logic gates.
Leo Young
Oh thank God this pic gives me hope I don't want to do physics the rest of my life.
Isaiah Nguyen
I'm a CpE and I got a SE internship. My portfolio sucks, my projects suck, my code sucks and my grades are slightly below average.I feel like a fraud because i've been fluking my way through classes and now through this internship. I'm pretty sure my luck is going to run out soon.
Liam Clark
>I won't even get started on Mechanical and Chemical Engineering. >tfw too intelligent to work in ChemE after graduation
Ian Wright
For how long will you be doing CS until the fad weirs out and you are left with the skillset of a 20yo?
EE is much more intelecually rewarding and challenging, with potentially unlimited ceiling. If you get gud you can build particle accelerators in your basement, creating antimatter and constructing the first alcubierre drive prototype.
Charles Rodriguez
Are you only applying locally or countrywide like you should be?
Ryder Price
>computers are a fad
Bentley Butler
> a Bs in any STEM field will get you somewhere better than McDonald's
Only meme you fell for m8. Nobody in any industry ever will hire someone without a Master over someone who has one, and both will be beaten by people with Ph.D's. Go back to school and beg for more pieces of paper.
Chase Gonzalez
>YOU CANNOT GET A SOFTWARE ENGINEER POSITION, AN IT JOB, OR EVEN A BASIC CODE MONKEY INTERNSHIP IF YOU'RE NOT STUDYING CS, EVEN WITH A STELLAR PORTFOLIO lol I assure you most people working in IT/codemonkey positions don't have a CS degree
Adam Roberts
>Employment Change, 2014-24 600 >600 >60 new jobs per year
LMAO! Holy shit.
Jacob Price
it's already too late for me to switch out of ChemEng
Such a worthless major
William Thompson
You know, there's always general engineering positions in places like the military and what not that chemicals can apply for.
Brayden Jones
H-1B'ing is only truly terrible in CS/tech jobs, because otherwise the profits are big enough to please investors.
Austin Johnson
if you jump into higher education thinking it would be get rich quick scheme you deserve what you get
Brayden Howard
>And no, YOU CANNOT GET A SOFTWARE ENGINEER POSITION, AN IT JOB, OR EVEN A BASIC CODE MONKEY INTERNSHIP IF YOU'RE NOT STUDYING CS, EVEN WITH A STELLAR PORTFOLIO Yes, you can. Easily. It's your problem that you can't learn basic math and programming by yourself. EE is good if you're actually intelligent and has a broad interest. Anyone can get a codemonkey job, you don't even need university for that. I saw EE dudes at one of my internships in a pure software company, they had no problem adopting.
Honestly, maybe you should do actual interesting internships where you actually do something meaningful. The same with hobby projects. So your skill set isn't zero.
There is a difference between putting a shitty VM on github which was made for the purpose of learning plus 10 other REST API calling code monkey projects and putting 2-3 projects on there where for example you demonstrate efficient audio processing on a smallish mcu or applying machine learning to automatically profile and optimize some inline assembly for you based on code transformation rules.
Isaac Ward
Really? At my school there are way more EE students than cs. They're dumb as shit though. Actually most people at my school are dumb as shit.
Jace Reyes
>Actually most people at my school are dumb as shit. Pro-tip: don't go to shit schools.
Jason Sanchez
this is at UCLA
Gabriel Campbell
kek what? that's not a software engineering job.
Aiden Gray
...
Camden Myers
>3.82 GPA
>it's another "american students thinks his shitty easy as fuck gpa is impressive" episode
Grayson Bell
nice meme
Nathaniel Cooper
Really reaching hard
I was trying to highlight the difference between our stats, since a >3.5 is apparently golden for jobs in the US, which turned out to be a meme.
maybe one day your country will have a top 5
James Bennett
"Heh, I bet my EE degree blows those two out of the wat-"
BSc Industrial Engineering > Huh, IE is an Easy Brainlet Major. > Although Operational Research / Financial Math PhD are top tiers.
Aiden Miller
>IE is an Easy Brainlet Major
Not the same user but that varies from university to university. Here we only have 5 technical classes less than MEs. But anyway, if you find your major hard is because it's not the right major for you. Thermodinamycs, statics and modern physics (elective in IE) were easy as fuck to me, but a lot of MEs failed these classes.
>Operational Research / Financial Math PhD
IE covers these fields. In fact i'm doing my final project around OR.
Brandon Hughes
Wouldn't it be best to get a degree while in the military by taking classes on base/online? That what I was planning on doing, Air Force or army
