When did you realize that the next cultural movement will be backward-looking and a "return to tradition," Veeky Forums?
There is, logically, nowhere to go after postmodernism. What comes after what comes after modernism? There is nowhere forward to move now, except right into a wall. The only direction to go is backward.
Andrew Nelson
maybe we'll finally move past gay shit like philosophy lmao
Adam King
trans human futurist traditionalism
Blake Edwards
>this guy still doesn't know that science will allow humanity to transcend itself, negating all past culture completely
Evan Jones
This thbqh senpai
Jayden Scott
You are a cis white male scum. Saying we should go backward to archaic conceptions such as happiness, freedom, enjoying life. If you are not on the progress train you are Hitler.
Nicholas Barnes
It's true, a lot of people are already heading that way
Joseph James
Like literally. Hitler, that is.
Andrew Cooper
This isn't a new problem/idea. Transcending POMOism is what DFW meant when he talked about "getting past irony"
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Samuel Garcia
>There is nowhere forward to move now t. the last monkey in the tree, watching the other monkeys take to walking on two feet
Connor Adams
New Romanticism when?
Landon Nelson
this new cultural movement is due to lack of imagination. yea, your popular culture might become stupider but the intellectual tradition will continue to change.
Josiah Rivera
>When did you realize that the next cultural movement will be backward-looking and a "return to tradition," Veeky Forums? when I saw people on chans picking up Christianity as an ironic retreat from liberal modernity, but then became unironic about it
Noah Gonzalez
lol @ Veeky Forums retards trying to predict movements
Ian Collins
Critical Realism is the next big thing desu.
Nolan Rogers
You idiot. You don't realize that the groping search of the past for something to do is postmodern in itself. What the fuck do think 50s nostalgia is? Vapor wave is the latest and most self consciously postmodern phenomena, and NRx fits the bill. What you're describing is postmodernism as such, and not in any way an """escape""" from it. You colossal dolt, you stupid fucking ass. You're really just tossing terms about with no idea what they mean. You goddamn idiot.
Elijah Robinson
I realized it talking to my nephews. They look at the political left the way my middle-school friends in the 90s looked at Christianity. Their favorite things to talk about are nordic myth and their "stupid sjw teachers." I try to steer them toward actual European history more than myth & legend, but it doesn't seem to interest them.
I think I may be bonding with them, either way.
Andrew Lopez
Worst thing that could possibly happen tbqfh.
Jordan Rogers
The traditionalist rage isn't a social movement, its the thrashing and kicking of a dwindling minority group being pulled against its will into a world is hates. Existentialism won a cultural victory in the 1960's. The new movement in academia and society in general is tearing down the tattered ruins of the old guard to build up new from scratch.
Nicholas Reyes
*tips fedora*
Eli Morales
There will be two camps, ultra conservative, slightly reactionary normies that are horrified by singularity and the trans-human neo-homo sapiens super race
Nicholas Thomas
>homo get out fag
Luke Edwards
This can't be. Transhumanism is an idea inherently tied with liberalism and thus, cannot coexist with tradition.
Kayden Diaz
>Doesn't realize that we're in peak degeneracy and about to collapse
Joshua Lewis
"Tradition" just means the barely educated and barely connected misconceptions of old.
There is no going back after the Information Age. It would be quaint at best to pretend Boomer notions hold true today.
Sebastian Bailey
if a cultural movement actually carries out a "return to tradition" well enough it would discard the fetishization of "cultural movements" in general, which is essentially a fetishization of what's new, and was more or less a product of modernism (in the sense of around baudelaire and wagner forward), which is the most obvious root of decadence to begin with
Jordan Nguyen
Maybe. Still plenty of room for postmodernism at the top. Or if you have a cushy lit job that rides on it. But ideally wealthy, suave, cosmopolitan types will go on reading cool literature.
Politics is going to take the bloom off the rose of that stuff at the bottom, which is why the red pill will continue to attract followers. Pomo won't look quite as sexy if things continue to go the way they are going. I don't know how it will attract university support though, which is why I don't think that stuff will acquire the weight of a movement for a long time, if ever.
The ideal thing to come after postmodernity would be silence. Once we figure out how much of culture is just memes ironically understood or memes ideologically understood...
Meh. Just watch it burn.
Easton Martinez
>renaissance is pomo lmao Also, vaporwave is ironic.
Carson Cook
This. Any true, honest attempt to "go backward" would be unironic. It would be sincere. Not "new sincere" either, just plain old sincere.
Eli Jenkins
>The traditionalist rage isn't a social movement, its the thrashing and kicking of a dwindling minority group being pulled against its will into a world is hates. Last I checked Trump won.
>There is no going back after the Information Age. Last I checked Trump won thanks to fake news.
The potential for information is not the same thing as the use of information itself. Which is already being controlled and obfuscated.
Justin Walker
idea x is contrary to idea y. idea z emerges from idea x. idea z can coexist with idea y.
Landon Stewart
/thread
Lincoln Turner
Except idea z cannot exist without idea x. As I said, they are tied.
Josiah Lopez
can't you really imagine traditionalist variance of transhumanism?