Why great classic composers were more productive than great writers?

>Why great classic composers were more productive than great writers?

>Why composers have more easiness to create large portions on the work inside their minds and only after that putting it on paper but writers seem to need the formulating of the phrases on the paper (even though they might have imagined the scene and the characters before, but not the words that will eventually flesh them up)?

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Takes less time to listen to a symphony than it does to read War and Peace innit.

>>Why great classic composers were more productive than great writers?
Completely relative. Writing a symphony is not the same as writing a novel, it takes different skills, different education, different thinking etc. Haydn wrote a hundred symphonies while Shakespeare wrote 38 plays and 154 sonnets, but how can you say which one wrote "more"?

>>Why composers have more easiness to create large portions on the work inside their minds and only after that putting it on paper but writers seem to need the formulating of the phrases on the paper (even though they might have imagined the scene and the characters before, but not the words that will eventually flesh them up)?
You answer your own question.

music is for brainlets that's why

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Music alphabet only goes A-G, that is like not even half of the writing alphabet.

Excellent meme bait desu haha

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Music is a part of us for a longer time than language, or at least as old. Also, processing sound is a more natural function(before spoken words there were grunts or whatever to communicate and predators desu), and requires less brain
resources to activate(you could say it costs less to encode sound to save and use). As such, few people really dislike music, because it is a part of us and invokes emotions more often than books.

>why great egyptians mathematicians were more productive than molecules of helium in the sun?
your question makes no sense

Not true at all, this idea that you had to contemplate and mull and thrust your entire being into a work in some grand display of creation is a romanticist invention.
The best artists, whether composers, writers, or painters, have never been that type.
Bach didn't sit there crying himself a river and using his own blood to score his pieces, he sat down with a cup of coffee in the morning and shat out a couple fugues before bustling around town like a bigshot on the organ.

Who are you quoting?

Nobody. Why?

You used arrows, which are used for quoting, the meme aspect here is much smaller?

This guy is right, Kant spent one hour writing during his day.

>Not true at all, this idea that you had to contemplate and mull and thrust your entire being into a work in some grand display of creation is a romanticist invention.

I think that depends entirely on the composer. Mozart did write an enormous amount of music, but most of it even he didn't consider good, only that one in a hundred pieces he made was truly great. Bach was similar, he considered a lot of what he wrote scrap.
However there were other composers, like Beethoven which agonized over their work, constantly making corrections and having a ton of drafts.

One constant with every musical genius is that they work tirelessly, usually from an early age. Writing music is much more abstract from the start than writing literature.

nice. more thpughts or books about it?

I'm sure you can find a ton of biographies, or in case of Chopin and some composers collections of letters they wrote.

As far as the process of creation itself is concerned, I think the thoughts of the composer himself are usually the most interesting. There is a nice collection of interviews with Schoenberg online:
schoenberg.at/index.php/en/alfred-lundell-interview-with-arnold-schoenberg
Schumann for example wrote a ton of essays about many romantic composers, and about how to create as well
eclass.uoa.gr/modules/document/file.php/MUSIC296/Schumann,%20Robert,%20Music%20and%20Musicians.%20Essays%20and%20Criticisms,%20vol.%201,%20London%201891%20(gen.).pdf
Other than this I haven't had much luck in finding stuff like that.

Thank you.

I have find a nice source here, on this book:

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>Why composers have more easiness
Riiiight... I'll take "because they were being commissioned, paid, and patronized, for $500, Alex, you odd ESL user.

Pretty sure most great composers went through large periods of being unpopular, critical backlashes for different styles, ridicule, bankruptcy, debt, overspending.

Their lives weren't that comfy.

Composers were employed, they had to.

Lope de Vega wrote 3,000 sonnets, 3 novels, 4 novellas, 9 epic poems, and about 500 plays. Your point?

>literal slobbering retard.

Wait.. so you're saying Mozart only has like 6 great compositions?

>Mozart was one of the most prolific composers in history but not the most prolific. He composed about 1,000 pieces (626 of which were categorized by L. von Koechel).

it's a figure of speech dummy
are you going to say that every single one of those 1000 was groundbreaking? That he didn't write much more than what he released to public?

All of his surviving compositions from after 1780 or so are probably worth listening to

Bach>Mozart

Bach didn't even compose a single opera.

Mozart didn't even compose a single (good) fugue.

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Mozart was a bad composer who died too late rather than too soon.
His weary and jaded music had no ore potency than inter-office memos.

more like the most unimaginative post

I think you went too far in the other direction. You're right that these people didn't always have to put their entire being into their work, but it isn't all just technique and practice either. The great works come from both inspiration (putting your entire being into a work) and from refined technique.

That's how I see it, anyway.

It is easier to come up with a segment of classical music than it is to think of a segment of writing. This is true of creating and recalling. Try to remember how your favorite song goes and try to think of any page of your favorite book and see which recollection is more accurate.

>easier to come up with a segment of classical music

Alright hot shot, please come up with a segment of music with about the same ease you wrote that post of yours

user is right, music can practically write itself if you don't really care about the notation being relatable in a classical way, like a lot of contemporary composers do.

very very underrated my man

So can a segment of writing if you do it with the same disregard.

But writers who do this are quick to be found out as tricksters by good interpreters, who will move on.