Now that solar power is as dead as nuclear, where are we supposed to get energy from?

Fucking Drumpf, why does he have to ruin everything!

iter.org

perhaps elon musk will be trumps advisor again because trump listened to him about renewable energy

This conclusion would be interesting to entertain if it didn't come off as sarcastic and bitchy.

>solar infrastructure
In other words, 6.7 billion dollars on a scam. The point of solar is to get RID of power plants, not have their own plants.

>Now that solar power is as dead as nuclear,
shit bait

Solar walls were a suggestions from one of the companies who wanted the contract to build the wall

are you a retarded nigger or do you seriously not realize that solar panels need more than a couple wires to be connected to the grid?

That's where you're wrong, kiddo

Sounds like a child's logic to me.

>solar energy is now unacceptably racist

ignore these /pol/ posters. they cannot stand not being victimized.

no one thinks x is racist because trump supports x. you saying something doesnt make it true

They're not wrong. Solar power was never an acceptable option. There's no way forward but nuclear, and I'm pretty sure everyone knows that.

HAHAHAHAHA, no. Nothing can stop solar now. It shall devour all, wind, nuclear, coal, and natural gas will get devoured by solar.(in about that order)

>Being this much of a crybaby faggot.

>Implying nuclear won't come back due to deregulation.

>> implying nuclear will be able to come back when natural gas is so cheap

Nuclear powered wall sounds like a good idea. It can be a giant, very slow conveyor belt that dumps the waste in Mexico.

>USA is relevant to the solar industry
>people will remember minor details of someone they irrationally hate, when they don't actually care to begin with and will forget about it all in a few years as other fashionable items take their interest or other political stands are shoved down their dripping throats
like they have any say in the capitalist machine at all anyway

you take that back right now!!

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>solar energy is now unacceptably racist
always has been, because the sun gives off WHITE light

Solar and other renewables, while they will also have ecological impacts if used on a large scale, are nonetheless not going to be able to shoulder much of the burden in the near term.

That leaves nuclear or burning more carbon based fuels in the near term. Which you get behind depends, I guess, on whether you think CO2 or radiation is a bigger threat over the next maybe 2 decades or so.

where are these articles

That was obviously intended as somewhat tongue in cheek -- but it is hard to deny that there are some folks who would knee-jerk oppose anything the current President proposed. It is also undeniable that solar generating facilities large enough to have any meaningful impact on the country's energy budget will come with some environmental impact at least locally, and will thus be opposed by at least some locally focused environmentalists.

The problem with nuclear is it's pretty damn expensive and time consuming to build a reactor. Especially in the US where we insist on building a new reactor type every time, so D&E costs explode. Right now in the US a nuclear plant has a higher LCOE $/MWh cost, a higher capacity cost in $/kW and a higher total capital cost than any other power type. On top of that it takes 10 years to build. It's really hard to look at nuclear from a financial standpoint and say "This is the best option".

If you want nuclear, you need a big government push for it and a standardized reactor design, like how China is doing it.

>like how China is doing it.
Is that part of their plan to get all the chinese people to move to canada?

>solar power is as dead

Dude, Solar Thermal.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Absorption_refrigerator

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the oil and gas companies goy.

Its simple economics.

Nobody can control the amount of solar energy you can produce, and besides the manufacture and installation of panels it is free.

But oil and coal have carefully controlled output so as not to saturate the market (devalue the fuel)

using this method sizable profits can be made and controlled by the oil jews worldwide

>Nobody can control the amount of solar energy you can produce, and besides the manufacture and installation of panels it is free.

PV panels have a lifespan over which they lose half their power collection capacities.

I think most of the complaints about the solar panel investment seem to be centered around the idea that the panels are gonna be a part of his stupid meme wall. It might actually bring the overall cost down over time to make it financially feasible which is kind of hilarious if he pulls it off.

Just Burn Oil/Petroleum

A climate few degrees warmer & A ocean few feet taller will make almost no difference at all.

Warming? Nordic Countries & Canada will get warmer.

Coast Flooded? Just move inland.

Fuck Venice. Who cares that the Italian city of Venice go Underwater, that city is already half-flooded.

Countries like Netherlands will just build a 10 feet taller Dams.

Hydro is a pretty good source of energy and even better if the icecaps melt and we get more waterways to build powerplants in.

How about we just burn as much as we can until every drop of ice melts and covers our beloved rock. After we alter our genes so we get gills and built the new Atlantis, motivating coming from the ultimate goal of survival.
>tfw no qt gillman bf

> tfw mexicans throw rocks at your solar panels

Engineers are faggots

"The wheel was my idea" - Trump 2017

"I killed baby Hitler, the Holocaust never happened. The Jews are all liars and losers." - Donald J. Trump

Well considering how unlikely it is the wall ever happens I really doubt he'll pull it off. When are you going to wake up and realize it was all just talk?

>re and how they damage the habitats of endangered desert animals

Bitches and whores

breitcucks are always imagining some leftist conspiracy against the downtrodden oppressed white male. gives them a reason to get up in the morning.

>it is hard to deny that there are some folks who would knee-jerk oppose anything the current President proposed
it's also hard to deny there are some useful idiots who will argue ferociously for anything the current president proposes, even if it's a complete 180 from their position just days prior. case in point: this thread.

>implying the resistance to solar has ever been about the environment
Two main issues and both are political / financial.

First: The cost per kW of solar panels is orders of magnitude higher than both coal and natural gas. Huge waste of money. The primary issue is there's no efficient and safe way to store the energy. For solar/wind to become truly practical, we need an advance in battery technology.

Second: Some communities in California tried to set up their own solar networks. Such that during the day they pay nothing, but at night they still use the grid. This shifts the fixed costs of the grid to the people who can't afford to install solar panels. Even if they could be off the grid entirely the result might still bankrupt the power companies, creating two classes of people, those who can afford power and those who can't, much like a third-world country.

How dare you talk about our god emperor.

Take that back! The sun emits light of ALL colors equally!
Some are more equal than others.

seems like the same people saykng the wall will never happen are the ones who were saying its impossible trump could ever be president

>Second
Why not just implement grid fees?

filthy, dumb, infra-red scum

A wall isn't an election, Russian hackers can't just make it exist