ITT: we discuss the best forms/shapes for space stations and discuss how feasible they are to construct in orbit of Earth or other planets in the system.
To kick things off,
How feasible would it be to use Yoyos to stabilise/control the rotation speed of a rotating station?
If the energy in the system remains approx constant (neglecting friction etc.) - then controlling the moment of inertia of the space station should be able to fine tune the rotational speed right?
Why choose something complex when reaction wheels and control motor gyroscopes are already used for that task and would be a much simpler implementation. The concept may be workable, but is limited in the range of control that is possible (for instance, you could not reverse the direction of motion), and would require far more space dedicated to it. I'd imagine that more working lets would also be required, making it a larger, more unreliable, and more limited means of achieving the same purpose.
You should check that out. Designing your own stations in that simulation, using real world math, will help you understand what designs/shapes are stable and best to use.
David Diaz
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Easton Sullivan
are sattelites even real
Brayden Adams
This is the first result that popped up for me
Camden Long
>engines
kek
You may as well asked where the mast and sails are.
Ian Campbell
This might be trolling, but my fears tell me that you are genuine
Anyways, here is one of my favorites
Charles Wright
I wish that bigelow would croak so someone competent could really start serious production of the BA330
Hudson Hall
Loled
Luke Taylor
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Dominic Scott
please, go on?
Joshua Mitchell
Bigelow Aerospace is a company in Las Vegas. They own the patents to inflatable space structures. The owner, Bigelow, is an old, wacky fellow who believes in aliens, Bigfoot, and the like. The company isn't stable with talent usually leaving soon after they get hired. Lots of horrible stories about working there on glassdoor. Apparently his daughter is more sane, so the idea is that when Mr Bigelow is out of the picture, competent management can take over.
Supposedly, after the BEAM module they made went up to the ISS, a lot of the team that was responsible for it left. So now they have a few capable engineers, some large mockups, and not much else. Hopefully their partnership with ULA to launch the BA330s will go through, but I have my doubts they can even build the things. Plus, the patents expire this year
Adam Reed
>tfw he missed his opportunity to call himself Deuce Bigelow Space Gigolo
Liam Baker
Pretty cool.
Especially how it determines stability based on moment of inertia and tells you what is stable and unstable.
Mason Jones
Question:
Would it be better to have a non-spinning shaft with bearings to spin a toroidal habitat, or would spinning an entire craft be a better option.
On one hand I think fewer moving parts would be better, on the other I wonder how the fuck a spacecraft would be able to dock - gimballed docking connector?
Kevin Edwards
>the patents expire this year This is good news.
Hopefully shit will blow up (lel) - like what happened with 3d Printing,.
Daniel Cruz
Surprised SpaceX hasn't showed any interest in the concept, at least that we know of.
Jackson Bailey
I don't like this. Keeping a fixed center is just asking for trouble, but the other ring complicates things even further. I hope they turn in the same direction, I have an intuition that rings turning on different directions wouldn't be stable for long.
Isaac Smith
Elon has stated that SpaceX will only be the railroad - they don't want to have to develop the stuff you need when you "get there".
He wants the cheap flights they enable to allow for other companies to develop everything else needed for settlements and bases and communication and whatever. SpaceX will get you there, but that's all they'll do
Evan Cox
inflatable is a meme If spacex wants bigger habitats they will just build bigger rigid habitats
Since they are still a year or more away from even putting a manned launch to the ISS, theres no hurry
Launch capacity has to come first
Charles Sanders
He will be doing everything that is an essential part of the mars colony Which is why he has a battery/solar power company Which is why he's making electric cars Which is why he's working on vehicle automation Which is why he's starting a mining company Which is why he's making a satellite company
etc
Angel Adams
efficient, even if orange
Owen Barnes
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John Cruz
>mars colony
JELLO BABIES!!!
Gavin Smith
The center wasn't fixed. Did you see the movie?
Jose Nelson
Aerostat in Jovian or Venusian atmosphere when? Both have bands of where pressure and temp are Earth standard. You'd only need a mask to go outside.
Lincoln Cox
Jupiter has huge amounts of radiation so you wouldn't want to be anywhere near it Callisto is where you would want to be
Only issue is that theres no atmosphere to provide free delta-v to your rocket.
Justin King
>Jupiter has huge amounts of radiation Not in atmo Only in its van Allen belts.
Besides, even if somehow Jupiter was being bombarded with radiation, a few km of air will protect any person.
Like, if Earth had no magnetic field, there'd be no real increase in radiation on the surface due to the insulating effect of the atmosphere
Connor Ward
It seems that there is this battle between 0 gravity and spinning space stations. It seems 0g is better in general, but bad for human health. My understanding is that we don't need to be under "gravity" all the time to prevent health issues. I always though rather than having the space station spin, you could have an inflatable habitat that contains a spinning a spinning centrifuge where people could sleep in. You could use magnetic bearings and you wouldn't have to worry about sealing between a rotating/stationary parts of the station as it's all internal. You don't need a ton of energy since you don't need to spin the entire thing. You could even modulize and add to the space station unlike a spoke and wheel station.
Angel Ross
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Gabriel Torres
well too be fair the guy behind skylon is pretty nuts too
Grayson Russell
KSP discussion isn't allowed on /v/ or Veeky Forums
well there is a difference between Howard Hughes crazy and Bigelow crazy.
Anthony Cox
that's odd
Adrian Butler
no it's not it turned into a shitposting singularity with catdicks, bestiality, snakes, and a lot of autism
Levi Barnes
How is this remotely different to the rest of the retarded threads and posters of /v/??
It doesn't matter. Ksp doesn't belong on sci either. So fuck off.
Carson Foster
hell, you'l find half of that on Veeky Forums as well, the rest on /k/
Brody Bennett
The whole thing was a single structural unit .. ships docking at the "hub" had to spin slowly to match up with the station. Second ring, under construction,was a solid unit fixed to the first.
One advantage of a large spinning station is that you have, say, 1 g on the outer level, you'd have 0 g at the center and a full gradient of everything in between. Whichever amount of g's being pulled is bast for a given application, you have it. If you need MORE than1 g for some application, "lower" a rope (or build boom.)
Robert Roberts
>Ksp doesn't belong on sci either. So fuck off. I didn;t see any discussion of KSP as a game )or discussion about it at all) I saw a computer generated image of a design for a space station in a thred about designs for space stations. The software used for the design is not material.
You didn't get pissed of about how belongs on /tv/...
Chase Gutierrez
I was glad that when I designed my own then checked all the stats, that everything was correct on the first try. The only trouble I had was getting the parts to snap together properly.
On the version I used, it didn't seem to account for weight distribution inside.
Samuel Davis
I wonder what a flat-earth person would think of this game