How old were you when you realized that anarchy is objectively the best state for humans to live in?

When I was 20. 8 years later I rejected any objective truth and become full time nihilist. Now I look upon anarchism with pity

Specifically minimalism is the best form of organizing a society. It's original anarchy and is an effective mixture of market and socialism

Mutualism not minimalism fuck8ng auto correct

If it was objectively the best state why do groups of humans almost immediately form groups and hierarchies?

>anarchy
>state

What did he mean by this?

Does anarchy necessarily mean no hierarchy? I thought it meant no bureaucratic state.

Amazon tribes probably have hierarchy, does that mean they're not anarchist? If parents have more power than 4 year olds, and anarchy means no hierarchy, then anarchy doesn't exist.

I consider the Amish to be anarchist.

Interesting picture, I was just reading about Japanese anarchists yesterday. You know of any good books about the subject? Seems like there's some potential for scholarship there.

Makes sense if you don't live near other people, if you do, anarchy sucks

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You do realize state has more than one meaning, right? State is also used to mean "the way something is in certain conditions or time", its not just "legally defined boundries in which a political system exists" you fucking retard.

It literally does, look at the word anarchy then look at the word hierarchy.

I recognise some of the people in the image, who are they all though, for reference?

I don't know all of them, just going to list the ones I saw on Wikipedia.

Kanno Sugako
Fumiko Kaneko
Park Yeol
Noe Itō
Jun Tsuji

>have a 13 year old
>we have parented anarchistichally
>he is a straight A student and very well behaved
AMA

T. Retard

Go look up the ltv and 1870

14 when I realised I didn't want to do my chores

Grew out of it pretty quickly though

It was a joke you dumbass

How does one parent anarchistichally?
Does he fit in well with his peers?
Is he Veeky Forums?

It's the best state but it's also the least feasible state. We're too violent and destructive and stupid to live without some form of government, but it's a nice thought.

>i was just pretending to be retarded!

I was 20 when I left the moralistic/utopian crutch of anarchism behind.

At least that user isn't actually retarded

Nah, I'm gonna have to say he is.

I'll answer the simpler questions first:
He gets along extremely well with his peers and is very extroverted.
He has 4 friends who he would consider his closest friends, and several just outside that circle, as well as generally getting along with everyone.

He is Veeky Forums ish. I have taken care to educate his mind and read him lots and lots of fairy and folktales and mythology, as well as The Wind In The Willows, Alice in Wonderland, and much other children's lit. Our latest foray was The Innocents Abroad, which he absolutely loved. I am considering either more Twain, or maybe Walden.

As far as anarchistic parenting... I'll try to nutshell it:

Many things were set up rhythmically, like bedtime, dinnertime, and so on. We always did these things together so there was no need for conflict.
When he was small, rather than silly power plays such as "come here", "put your shoes on", and so on, we would just say "time to put your shoes on", and put them on him, or say "time to leave the par" and start leaving. He would follow.

People don't realize how hard wired children are to imitate. Much can be accomplished by modeling the desired behaviour.

If he strongly objected to a given situation, we would make deals: "you do this for me/ I'll do that for you". By doing this, we treated him as an equal.

We did not chastise him for expressing his feelings, and we did not hold back with ours. Therefore a personal relationship was created such that he cared about what we thought, not because he would be punished, but out of empathy.

I could go on, but this is a sampling.

Sounds pretty comfy.
Have you ever wound up in an unavoidable and/or unresolvable standoff?

I will add that I was very inspired by Maria Montessori, AS Neill, Waldorf education (although we did not send him to a Waldorf school), and the Continuum Concept.

We have. I am trying to remember the specifics of one particular situation.
All I can remember is a fierce hurt look in his eyes, and an overwhelming feeling of anger in myself.
I believe we took a break (reluctantly) from the conversation, and then returned to it with the stated intent (by me) of finding a resolution that we both felt okay with.
I told him how and why I felt what I felt, and he did the same. Then we both offered possible solutions with some give from each until we came to a deal.

I wish I could remember the specifics... But we have had maybe 4 or 5 of these high octane situations. They are somewhat scary, as I try to maintain my ideals from many angles, and also respect him as another being.

Is he beating his meat yet? How do you handle sex talk?

I don't know!

And a great, great curriculum out of Holland called "Long Live Love". Check it out.

Around 19/20. Within another year or so I no longer felt this way but wasn't sure where to go. After another year or two I settled on communtarianism as the obvious answer. Several years later I have not swayed from this.

>Time to beat your meat

12.

Then I become a democrat at 15. Now at 26 I'm realizing socialism is the answer to all of the worlds problems.

I did mean communitarianism by the way, not communism.

I slid out of the womb a pragmatist, so never.

>"X is the answer to all the worlds problems!"
Wow, you are like really, really fucking dumb. I have nothing against socialism, but if you believe there's a universal solution to "all the worlds problems", then you are a helpless ideologue. Are you really 26?

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stop using nietzsche

*tips fedora*

I'm am yet to be convinced that anarchism should be anywhere other than inside the thoughts of coked up philosophers

How does that meme even apply in this situation? Is that really the best response you could think of? Jesus...

>12.
>Then I become a democrat at 15. Now at 26 I'm realizing socialism is the answer to all of the worlds problems.
And you have the audacity to reply *tips fedora* to this?

> I have nothing against socialism, but if you believe there's a universal solution to "all the worlds problems", then you are a helpless ideologue.

nah

Anarcho communist here and I was 23. 26 now. Feelsgoodman

Does Veeky Forums have mods? How the fuck is this thread still alive?

Wtf this is how I raise my dog basically

The objectively best state for humans to live in is an absolute theocratic and feudalistic monarchy with me as Ultra-Emperor, actually.

Stephen?

12, the day I discovered that TRUMP IS PUTIN'S SOCK PUPPET

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Small children are a lot like dogs: you feed them and clean them and take them outside. Of course you also have to put them to bed and tell them stories, but that's really the only difference. Once they're out of diapers.

Around 12, I suspect, when most idiot kids think that way. Then you get into junior high and realize that anarchy just means bigger kids beating the fuck out of you or raping you, taking your stuff, and going unpunished. Unless you're Conan, anarchy is idiotic.

anarchism is when you are homeless.

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