Veeky Forums Writes a (new) Novel, Part Two: Wheels in Motion

So if you haven't heard by now, we're working on a new collaborative novel!

This one is slightly more structured than most previous efforts, so the planning process might seem more in-depth than some anons may be used to. One of the positive side effects of this though, is that everyone can have equal opportunity in shaping the greater creative vision. And, if you don't particularly like planning, and want to jump into writing right away, there is a place for that too, even during these early stages.

Basically, if you want to jump into the planning side of the creative process (whether it's coming up with character names, chapter arcs, potential titles, themes, styles, cover art, etc) then jump in this doc:

docs.google.com/document/d/1mRH7rfS21WKMPzLEDMxcRtnB38rpkraTgL4dOKBlJIo/edit?usp=sharing

And if you just wanna put something down on the page, whether its something you wrote three years ago and think it might fit somehow, or something you wanna write specifically for the project, then jump in this doc:

docs.google.com/document/d/1-cp4Avh4E2VYGLPdV1afZnKsZeY-2_GUVjqyRNeKFmE/edit?usp=sharing

If you are having trouble understanding how this all works, which is very understandable, do not worry. In the posts below will be a quick, but detailed, rundown of the basic premise for the project. I would recommend ALL anons read through this rundown before contributing to either doc, to ensure that we are all on the same page.

Worth Noting:
- The current title (Pantheon) is just a working title. Title and cover art discussion is currently taking place in the first linked document
- Eventually, once the initial details are fleshed out, there will be individual google docs for each core chapter (see premise rundown below for info on how chapters are going to work)
- Periodically, you may find that public editing is restricted. This will usually be because a pesky user has been meddling with or mass deleting the document. During these times you can still edit and add comments, your edits will simply remain pending until approval. I will do my best to approve all edits as soon as possible during these times.
- Always feel free to post your contributions, criticisms, discussions and whatever else in the thread as well, if you don't feel like going straight to the documents
- And finally, if you have any questions or confusions about the project, do not hesitate to ask!

Other urls found in this thread:

litbookorganization.freeforums.net/
twitter.com/AnonBabble

Part 1/2 of the basic premise

PLEASE READ BEFORE CONTRIBUTING

2/2

was some nigger just deleting shit again?

yeap

I'll turn full editing back on soon though

Where can i buy a Furby? Not the new ones, the old ones that were possessed.

the background image for the cover looks a bit tacky.
Use something like pic related instead.

>that background picture and that thick, black border

reeeeee

People should probably try to make their posts in the appendix doc somewhat relevant to the plot. Right now we have only two submissions that are connected in any way to the Pantheon. Jokes are good, but we want this to go somewhere.

or just the foreground image would also be good

Why of all people is it karl marx's diary

which ones are even relevant?

What was the name of the first one? Something about a Tundra?

Somebody link to the PDF.

legacy of totalitarianism in a tundra

The one about user posting on /pol/ and the william faulkner bit, and even then only tangentially related.

Has there been any development on a biblical character?

I think the guy smoking the blunt is supposed to be hippie jesus

Here is a forum if anyone wants to post or discuss ideas about the text, and maybe store copies somehow, if people copy paste the google doc, and save their edits in (so randos cant delete).

litbookorganization.freeforums.net/

Oh yeah I guess that's kinda relevant, but that submission needs a lot of work. desu I've been pretty drunk every time I read any of the submissions so there might have been some stuff I glossed over.

wait what the hell I never knew that Veeky Forums changes the abbreviated form of "to be honest" to "desu"
desu

It's on all the boards.

Full editing back

Chatted with hypersphere user, he wishes the project well

Enjoy the superbowl :))

Same colour pallet too. I'll see how it looks

This is still an option, user's have also suggested making our own version of the painting

Could someone be nice and explain to me why this title is considered so great? I'm not sure I get it.

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beautiful

Agreed this would look good as a background.
It's still early but I think it's good to have some idea of a cover floating around, makes the project seem more real.

The Man with no Talent is related to the plot. It explains how David Foster Wallace became a god.

When he prayed to the gods of the pantheon, they were so shocked by his lack of discernible talent that they deified him.
I'm going to put this through that colourizer that was popular on /a/ like two weeks ago and see if I can make it look good. This is probably a better choice than the original painting, and is less likely to get us in any potential legal trouble.

Colour soon.

I've updated the setting:

The Pantheon have killed God (ty based Nietzsche) and have attained power in the heavens. Each God has their own slice of what was Paradise and have now changed it to their own will, surrounded by their own sects of sycophants. I envision a middle ground where they’ve all pulled magnificent chairs into a semi-circle, with dead Angels littered leading up the stairs to them from the Gates of heaven (taking over heaven and killing god is bloody business yo). The Gods started the apocalypse early, calling on the 4 horsemen to destroy the world. They did so to cement their rule in the heavens against human meddling and the potential for another to ascend to godhood and affect the pantheon’s balance… user finishing his (god-awful) piece of literature is only a casus belli.

Nice user. You could also try coloring it to go with this

clever desu

>The Pantheon have killed God (ty based Nietzsche) and have attained power in the heavens

Sold on this part. Haven't properly read the rest but will soon.

It unfortunately is not very sophisticated.

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I think it certainly has potential...

Gives me vibes of pic related

Jesus christ how new are you?

we have to use lenticular printing on the hard copies so that it changes from the original to this depending on the angle

There's still room to polish it a bit more I think.

When are we trying to have this published by?

How much would it cost to get a nice cover drawn?
Nice enough to where people would be surprised.

Anyone know how long Hypersphere and Tundra took from beginning to the end of submitting text?

Somewhere between $100-$500, depending on the artist.

I dont think there needs to be a hard and fast deadline. Ideally a natural pace will form but we will see.

This is a good question

If it can get to a point where a normie's first thought is that its an interesting piece of art, and only on closer inspection do they realise its pepe and wojak, then I think it'll be golden. If you get what i mean

t. slightly inebriated

>normie's
replace it with normalfag

>wanting a good cover
my meme colouring will be good enough, and absolutely free.

How will the editing process work?
Assuming this will end up as something trying to be high quality and not a jumbled mess, will we continue to discuss plot points and make changes in threads until the very end with everyone working together to make it as great as possible?
Should the authors of the main parts make a trip to better discuss their chapters and respond to criticism?
I can't imagine all of the interlude submissions will make it, so should we do some kind of vote as to what makes it?
I know I'm probably getting ahead of myself.

It was just a thought. I was imagining something like a knockoff Hieronymus Bosch with relevant memes.

Publishing isn't cheap already.

Is this in the public domain?

Anyone started writing anything major yet?Your meme coloring looks good enough.

Last work I'm doing tonight.

nice nipple

I lied.

Nice user.

We may have to change the kek gods appearance, so readers don't assume kek is on the cover.

unless he is??

Once at work I'll take the time to write a female god in the google doc. My idea so far is to have a dual deity: One side is the woman seen by /r9k/ (oozes sexuality, braindead, blonde, superficial, has it easy) and the other the woman idealized (virgin, quiet, knows she is less intelligent, looks like mum). I'd call her Venus Parthenos or something.
I'll think about it some more

>Once at work I'll take the time to write a female god in the google doc.
Next you'll start adding gods of colour and people of non binary gender.
>Muh diversity

I think it will be good to have a female god for user to overcome. He could put on the whole pseudo intellectual show, and it will work, but in realty he's just being a sperglord
Maybe his nervousness toward talking to the virginal cute side would be misconstrued as reverence for her.
Maybe the sexy side will be too much and he will literally start jacking it right there, or cum in his pants, and guzzle his own cum which would also be respected.
I don't know, definitely need a female god in there for laughs, and because it adds a different dynamic not possible with male gods.

>definitely need a female god in there for laughs
Yep. Lets have user become frustrated that he's 28 and still a virgin, so he rapes the goddess.

The idea of a female god is intriguing. If done right it could work well.

Tried to write some stuff today but it was all garbage.
Here's the best line I came up with.
>"D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-DROP THE BASS!" Said the nervous game warden.
kill me

Are we waiting to have everything planned out more before the main writing starts?
Not very much planning happened yesterday.

All attempts to write a collective novel since Tundra have been entirely the effort of redditors. I am being entirely unironic when I say this. Whether this attempt at writing succeeds or fails it'll still have irreparably fucked the board a little more by attracting all of these memespouting tourists who only know lit as that place where "I can shitpost about le meme trilogy as much as I want!"

Commission some really recognizable porn artist to do the cover. I bet Sparrow or Shadman would be down.

>the best line I came up with


"We will guzzle cum so much," said Dolan Grump "you will be tired of cum-guzzling!"

"What difference does it make at this point?" supplied Hitlery Cunton as she was being propped into her dark-tinted van by her various body guards and aids.

"It makes all the difference, Hitlery," Dolan Grump spat back. "For we will make cum-guzzling great again!" He gave his trademark shit-eating grin at the loud cheers of his mindless orange-skinned cum-guzzling-enthusiast supporters. Grump was sure he would make the greatest Cum-Guzzler in the entire history of the United States of Cum-Guzzling!

And the most revered writer of all times, Mrs. Just Kidding Rollin', They Hatin', had only one thing to say at the whole cum-guzzling shitfest, "Dolan Grump is gay and Hitlery is a niggeress, 'cos I said so, Goddamnit!"

It's gonna be fine user, this book won't put an end to our secret club.
We just have to do what /a/ does.
Be really mean and yell at anyone new.

"Mangina!" Dolan Grump spewed, so as to have the last word!

At the end of the dozen strong Grump crowd, stood a young, emaciated, non-gendered, problem-glasses endowing, cum-guzzling PERSON, by the name of R. U. kiddinme, who was carrying a sign that said, "Stupid sexy Flanders would've guzzled cum!" But nobody paid any attention to it.

Dolan Grump, after having, at least in his own peabrain, won the debate, sauntered down the steps in his very own obnoxiously smug way and entered his limo, where his daughter, and favorite piece of poontang in the whole wide world, I-WannaCum was waiting with her feet touching the roof and stinky cuntflaps pointing to the car door, awaiting her father's peanut to diddle her fiddle.

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too easy, lol.

Here's a possible title

>Splurge: Election Year - Make Cum-Guzzling Great Again

you are welcome.

>killing god is bloody business
>potential for another to ascend to godhood
have my character of Dolan Grump, after having won the cum-guzzling contest, face the Gods.
Standing between the semi-circle of the chairs as the gods assess him for godhood in this cum-guzzling heaven, Grump, in his trademark orange smugness BTFO's all the Gods and becomes the God-Emperor he was always meant to be.

this is awful.

This is what the entire thing will be. Halfhearted reddit shitposting based on current events. Have you not read Tundra or Hypersphere?

Each chapter needs to be more or less planned, but it can happen on a chapter by chapter basis. For example, the Stirner-god chapter is looking very fleshed out, so writing could begin on that very soon.

>Not very much planning happened yesterday
Across the whole document there was a decent amount. The autistic cum guzzling user got to the doc early this morning though.

Grump: "As we welcome the arduous Brave New World Order, we, as the reigning cum-guzzling champions of the world must remember what our ex-cum-guzzling champ, Just Fucking Kringing, once said, "We choose to guzzle cum. We choose to guzzle-cum in this decade and guzzle the other bodily fluids, not because they are easy, but because they are hard, because that guzzling will serve to organize and measure the best of our cums and other bodily fluids, because that cum is one that we are willing to guzzle, one we are unwilling to spill, and one which we intend to suck, and the other bodily fluids, too."

The entire crowd of about 7 orange-skinned cum-guzzlers cheered like their cums depended on it.

Dolan Grump gave a smug, ear-to-ear, before continuing.

"The previous nigger cum-guzzler made us look incompetent in the eyes of the world's up and coming pissing, pooing, and cum-guzzling pooperpowers. But not anymore! With me as the head-cum-guzzlers, we will win all the cum-guzzlings."
Grump paused for effect.

"I know cum-guzzling." Dolan Grump said bigly-smugly. "I guzzle the best cum. They're terrific. Everyone agrees." And his orange-skinned fan followers went mad as they heiled their Hitler, uh, i mean, hero.

"Pooperpower 2020! Mangina!" Dolan Grump finished as, once again, he wanted to have the last word.

this is exactly what this is supposed to be.
there never was any intention of writing a serious novel.
Have YOU not read the Tundra or hypersphere?

This looks fucking homo.

yeah but those were good
this fucking sucks

Meant to address this post last night because it asks a few good questions.

>How will the editing process work?

>Assuming this will end up as something trying to be high quality and not a jumbled mess, will we continue to discuss plot points and make changes in threads until the very end with everyone working together to make it as great as possible?

You basically answered the question yourself. Ideally, that is how the editing process will work. If it gets significantly jumbled further down the line and we want to ensure that there's some kind of method to the madness we can make the docs comment-only.

>Should the authors of the main parts make a trip to better discuss their chapters and respond to criticism?

The current plan is to make a google doc for each main chapter. These docs would most likely be comment only from the get-go, so that the steady writing progress of whoever is writing each one is not impeded, but anons can over as many suggestions,criticisms, potential edits as they like.

I think it would be cool if at least one main chapter could be attempted to be written totally collaboratively, but we can see how that goes.

>I can't imagine all of the interlude submissions will make it, so should we do some kind of vote as to what makes it?

There aren't actually too many at the moment. anons have seen slightly more eager to submit prose than poetry for now. We will see though. If need be we can vote in some way, most likely using the comment feature or something.

Forgot the (you)

Please familiarise yourself with the initial premise first :^)

>this fucking sucks
yeah, fuck off, cum-guzzler.
if you are such a great writer, why don't you come up with something as genius as "Hitlery Cunton", or better yet, "Mrs. Just Kidding Rollin', They Hatin'"?

People are going to forget Tundra after reading this one, if i say so myself.

>Here is a forum if anyone wants to post or discuss ideas about the text, and maybe store copies somehow, if people copy paste the google doc, and save their edits in (so randos cant delete).

This is a good post, will add it to the next OP

> Rusty just wantingly thought about entering into rhapsodic musical ecstasy once more, but that simple as ABC pleasure would be till Doomsday denied to him. Rusty broke down into tear-secretion.

>rhapsodic
>Is this real life?
>Is this just fantasy?

I think I have replied to everything I missed last night.

So a couple things,

- Planning is going well, but the document is so large that certain parts are being neglected. Despite this, almost every single entry field has at least something in it, which is great. As the project progresses, I will probably start screenshotting certain that are in more need of input than others and post them in the thread to generate discussion or just direct peoples attention to them. This should speed up aspects of the planning process significantly.

- In terms of writing, the Stirner section is looking like it will be the first to be ready. There was already an user who seemed keen to write this section (the same user who contributed huge amounts to the plan) so he will have first dibs. If Stirner-user gets back to me, I will set up a google doc specifically for the Stirner section, where we can vote on the name ideas etc, and Stirner-user can start putting his work up. As he starts putting his writing up, I will most likely make the doc comment only, so anons can suggest edits and other constructive feedback in real time, without messing with Stirner-user's creative flow.

- I had an idea for some added context for the appendix. We could have a god present during the judgemnt/trial who records everything that is said. It could be mentioned in the text that user's answers are so long-winded and rambling at times that sections of his dialogue have been skipped over, but were kept on record and have been included for the reader in the appendix. Just an idea, let me know what you think.

we must make sure we use some of the tundra names and characters, if at all possible.

at least the words like - shilluminati, semen-schlocker, etc are revisit-worthy.

also, when do the real writing start? i'd like to submit my "Dolan Grump" writings.

All ideas sound good to me, glorious leader.

I've never been on Reddit in my life. I'm from /a/ almost solely.

Get yr head out of your ass.

don't forget to add goodreads comments on tundra's page to the new book,
they are simply ebin.

Bumpity

Added suggestion for goddess
Criticism, suggestions and shitposting would be much appreciated

Nice user. added a name suggestion + other stuff

To the one that wanted to overlay the Pepe image over the original painting: whoever drew it originally did not trace the painting, so it's basically impossible to do without severely warping both images.

Hmm...

The background for the original isnt overly complex

we could possibly replicate somehow? Or use something similar?

Somebody would be better off re-tracing it completely. The original background is just an age-worn black with some white in an area that's cut off anyway.

What I mean.

It looks like it would be sick overlaid,

but yeah, it would have to be redrawn completely for it to work


I guess we have to options:

redraw and overlay it

or just make our own version of the painting

Somebody should just contact an artist on /ic/ or /a/ or something, give them both images, explain the issue, and pay them like $20 to do a shitty redrawing and colouring for us, and just include their name in the book.

Sonebody said they wanted to see lenticular printing. An overlay might work, but if we can get the funds it might be cool to have a lenticular cover, with the original (if we can legally use it) as the primary image, and the pepe and wojak as the other.

The first question is how close to the original painting can we legally go?

Could determine which rout we take

Thinking of adding a space to contribute names for the "author", or to discuss how we might otherwise go about represting authorship

Also it took a surprisingly long time to change all the 'da's back to 'the'

The original is in the public domain, unless I'm mistaken. We can do whatever we want with it.