Give it to me straight, will humans ever go interstellar?

Give it to me straight, will humans ever go interstellar?

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No, not as living humans. Maybe as robots.

If we don't kill ourselves, sure.
I know it seems like an obvious answer but I think it's pretty dope that we can be pretty certain that our technological advance is practically indefinite I'm principle.
That said, we are almost certainly going to kill ourselves.

I'd rather give it to you gay if you know what I mean

Very unlikely according to everything we know now about space travel, but that's just my primitive 21st century opinion, people living thousands of years from now may or may not laugh at me

Nah, our AI might. Humans are going to get VR futa simulators long before we reach the closest stars, nobody is going to want to become astonaughts when they can just VR themselves on to other planets full of dickgirls and doritos.

Just barely. There's a small chance we'll colonize a few planets within 10-50 light years and that'll be the extent of it. This is hundreds of years off.
There's also a big chance we'll never do even that.
At least I'm pretty happy knowing that we'll have colonized the solar system at some point.

Although thinking about it, once we're at that point, there's really no stopping us. I was thinking we'd be limited by supply lines needing to stay established, but if we manage to set up truly independent colonies, we could still keep spreading through the galaxy over thousands and thousands of years. Of course there would be absolutely no benefit to this as these colonies would be of no value to almost all other colonies. We'd just be doing it for the hell of it.

Yeah easily, its a piece of piss made even easier by the fact that you don't need to colonize planets when you get there because you already brought your home with you.

Indubitably.

is that yes or no?

correct

fuck off danyfag

Unlikely, if it were to occur then this would happen:
>probes sent out to multiple planetary systems to study them before-hand, would likely take at least a thousand years
>robust generation ships are sent to feasible systems
Alternatively, probes are sent a few years ahead but the generation ships don't wait, instead they get some data on systems a few years prior to arriving.

A semi-dead coma sort of state might be feasible to preserve humans, so that not so many generations will pass. Perhaps spending 90% of their time in the devices that maintain that state for their user.

Though these all require an extreme amount of time (from a human perspective) and to halve that time it would require a very precarious leap of faith. I think it is unlikely that we would ever bother aside from perhaps sending very small and fast probes that can give us some very basic data, which is useful for better understanding the universe. Outside of this, it is likely we - or what results from us will regularly "go interstellar". They won't be limited in speed by their weak bodies, like us. Nor by short lifespans, like us.

>we
I meant a heavily altered form of us.

>results
AI or digital forms of scanned brains.

Yes.

But not homo sapiens sapient, it will be homo sapiens futuris, the new and improved variant that will survive radiation and low gravity and live for centuries and be capable of hibernation.

>we can be pretty certain that our technological advance is practically indefinite I'm principle.
how can we be certain of it?

> there would be absolutely no benefit to this as these colonies would be of no value to almost all other colonies
What about natural resources?

No, and pic related is why.

>But not homo sapiens sapient, it will be homo sapiens futuris,
More like homo sexuals am I right Veeky Forums?

*Ignores your raised high five gesture and goes back to eating my lunch*

When your shipping takes longer than a single human lifetime it just stops being feasible.
FTL is just never going to happen.

Colonies in different systems wouldn't have any trade going between them because huge distances, they would essentially be different civilizations

I'm from the future, already lmaoing at you in your own time

U WANT DO IT RAW?

Do you have any good sorito flavours? and whys the futa porn like?

Short answer: No
Long answer: Hell no

Future people always coming to Veeky Forums. Guess this is the only place where they won't mess up the timeline.

nah, the new faggitry got so bad, that current Veeky Forums is considered good by them.

>futa

is everyone in this time such a Vanillafag

and doritos are outlawed since the 4th great McWarâ„¢

We discover more and more planets orbiting nearby stars. Some might even be habitable.
We are close to send first probes to nearby star systems at high sub-light speed. If we put some more effort in it we could "go interstellar" in less then a century.

there's no way manned interstellar travel is happening in less than a century, we're lucky if we even reach mars and that's child's play compared to interstellar

We talk about this again in summer 2117.

not anytime soon. but the good news is we have a couple thousand years worth of intrasteller exploration to do before we get bored.

Humanity won't go interstellar.
That's stupid and pointless.
Jacking brains into a matrix and building a dyson sphere to power it is far more feasible AND it will make everyone the virtual god videogames prove humans want to be.
Meatspace is pretty shit and the only reason people think they prefer it is because it's all they know.

If we survive, I'd bet that we'll be interplanetary by the later years of this century. and by the early years of the next one there's a good chance we'll be interstellar.

It mostly depends on what sort of revolutions hit next. We've had a Industrial Revolution, Agricultural Revolution, Energy Revolution... And none of them were predicted beforehand, basically by definition.

We'll need some sort of Transportation Revolution to happen where interstellar travel within the time limit of a few years is plausible. The most likely vector for that would be some sort of exotic matter being discovered that can provide negative energy for Alcubierre Drives, but it could come from anywhere - we have basically no leads more promising than "well... It SHOULD exist. Somewhere." If whatever resource we need for warp engines happens to exist inside Neutron Stars we're going to be screwed until some aliens with great luck and access to those resources come and colonize us as primitives.

The next would be a Communicative or Cultural Revolution that would allow colonies to remain culturally similar enough to Earth that they don't feel a call to break away. That could be as easy as Speciesism becoming a driving ideology, although woe to any primitives we happen to find on Xanzar-14 or wherever if that's the case.

But really the prevailing theory is that the transition to type 1 is incredibly dangerous, probably because manchildren politicians and nuclear weapons and terrorists don't mix well.

we task the AI with two task
>taking care of humanity
Well thats taken care of now thanks to the matrix
>Searching the cosmos for life and giving them knowledge (and destroying them if they try to destroy us)
That should keep the AI busy for the next billion years

>Back in the medieval ages
-I wonder if we will be able to fly or even conquer the entire planet.
-Haha look at this freak, let's hang him.

>Nowadays
-I wonder if we will ever explore space and have multiple colonies all over the universe
-Geez, let me record this freak with my smartphone and put it on the internet.

You can't stop the human civilization, mate, I am certain people will look back at us and laugh at our primitive life and primitive thoughts.

Yes but since NASA & Musk are so fucking slow, probably not in this century.

Like most of the things.

Yes. And: No. Both simultaneously are the right answer.

No. Now.

Maybe: Yes. In future.

We'll see.

Going Interstellar is indeed a hard task, I know humans can do it, we just need to put WAY more effort on space exploration and we can do it.

This century? Who knows, we can't underestimate the universe but we can't underestimate our technological progress either.

>century
> * millenium

Fixed that for you.

Just to add something here:

We're still a LONG way from the end of the 21st century, most of us will be dead by then.

The "humans will never fly" argument is beyond retarded, just because some dude was wrong about planes a hundred years ago now means that we can ignore laws of physics and anything is possible and technology will advance forever until humans are gods. People have had lots of retarded thoughts about future and most of those have never come true but who cares lol PLANES

Nice text brother.

>a matrix and building a dyson sphere to power it is far more feasible

Holy shit are you retarded.

Not gonna happen, for humans atleast. We are going to get awesome VR long before we have humans leaving the solar system. Our robots will be the ones exploring the cosmos, not us.

Indeed, you just added more to the argument

This, you have 2 options.
>Actual work and studying
>Lifelike futa dickgirls feeding you doritos

Nobody in their right mind will want to become an astronaught when you can just VR the days away.

I just said it fucking SUCKS

>VR
Programming every single fucking law of physics into a simulation UNIVERSE so you can rape the girl you had a crush on is the next step for humanity.

geez leave the VR hype train, you'll only get disappointed.

>"People have had lots of retarded thoughts about future and most of those have never come true but who cares"

That's what that post is trying to say m8

I'm saying that it's retarded to think anything is possible just because planes which is a stupid argument posted in these threads every time

Likely no, due to gigantic distances.
Moon is 380 000 km far (sorry but I do not master body-part type distances units); you get there in acouple days.
The sun is about 400 times this distance from earth. (150 000 000 km). the average distance bewteen earth and sun is called an astronomical unit (AU), we'll use that form now. With current technology we cn travel this distance in a couple months.
Pluto is about 30 AU from earth. The first man made engine that could go close enough to take a picture had to travel for 10 years with current technology.
The light year is about 65 000 AU from earth.
The closest star is 270 000 AU.
So -to speak in ers of scales- if the distance between Sun and earth was one millimeter, the distance between earth and this star would be 3 stadiums.

The closest "habitable" solar system (as far as we know) is 100 times this distance.

I didn't say anything about light speed. Another problem, and getting close takes huge amount of energy (not realistically feasible)

What is the point to send a robot that will reach its destination in 40 000 years btw?

Bazinga!

WE ARE MADE OF STAR STUFF!

we
are

INTERSTELLAR
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Blind Mown

Nah. We'll run out of fuel on Earth before space mining or renewable fuel rockets ever become feasible.

shh, don't tell them that, it will shatter their frail little hearts

> so you can rape the girl you had a crush on

I can already do that with lucid dreaming

No. It takes so long to get to another star there's no way to keep everything warm for that long. Not even nuclear fuel sources last long enough for 50,000 years.

Send terraforming machines first, by the time they finished their work we would have developed the FTL necessary. Assuming we're still alive of course.

Have you lost the plot?
We have sufficient nuclear material to keep he earth powered until the sun consumes it and then some here on earth but people think nuclear power is bad and expensive.

Have you lost the plot?
No way do we have the mining capacity to get that much uranium.

Is mining technology supposed to stay stagnant all that time?

If we're around when the sun dies we're going to have fucking teleportation/telephone/onaholes that are disposable and come with free nachos or whatever, dude, that'd be like fucking 50000000 CE.

Have you lost the plot?
Nachos will never be truly free

>ITT: People with no fucking clue.

Yes. I WILL fuck an alien before I die. I don't care if it's a amorphous blob, it'll do.

We are lucky. There is an Earth sized planet orbiting Proxima Centaury.
nature.com/news/earth-sized-planet-around-nearby-star-is-astronomy-dream-come-true-1.20445

I would say this is a place we should learn more about.

And some people already got an idea how to do this.
breakthroughinitiatives.org/Concept/3

They think we could pull off a flyby mission. With a very small space probe. It's a start.

>Centaury

only if we develop faster-than-light travel / warp technology

t. sci-fi fan

NO RUBER

my god, that is depressing

>4.243 light years away
we're gonna need a faster boat

>We are lucky.
It might be somewhat normal. WE're finding more and more that earth-like planets are not so rare. So far, we even think that 'super-earths' are the most common type of planet in the galaxy--we just didn't realize earlier because gas giants are found so much more easily.

It's not anywhere near implausible though, if you use generational ships.

>What is the point to send a robot that will reach its destination in 40 000 years btw?
>40 000 years

>build interstellar probe from the atomic level on up, via nanotechnology
>this ship is composed of machine "cells", designed to both compute and "digest" matter to create copies of itself, like hot-rodded brain cells, but infinitely tougher, more flexible and smaller than living cells
>they can also create other types of machine "cells", and even organic cells
>interstellar probe is only a few grams in mass
>use enormous EM accelerator to launch it at nearby star (or stars)
>leaves solar system at an appreciable percentage of light speed
>sacrifices part of its mass to decelerate (again, in the grams, due to its tiny size)
>upon reaching nearby star, first mission is to build a transmitter from a captured asteroid or comet it "eats" and establish data link to "home"
>then build more duplicates of itself to launch at more stars (a la Von Neumann)
>it will never be necessary to send more than one successful probe...all it needs to "build" another civilization around the target star (whether its biological, or more likely, virtual) is information from the data link to "home"
>galaxy and universe eventually enveloped by this machine "organism", either at light speed, or something faster, it that's at all possible

Should be possible in ~100 years, definitely 1000.

>So far, we even think that 'super-earths' are the most common type of planet in the galaxy
>When the fermi paradox is because most life evolves on planets where the gravity well is too strong to ever leave
>Humans are actually the lucky few who grew intelligence on a planet that was possible to escape from
>Humans are the spooky ayy lmaos of every other race

Fermi paradox suggests no

I like the idea that Humans start flying around sci-fi wise and discover that we're in the fucking weeds with primitive, stone-age species. Then we colonize them, commit a few atrocities, and make them run our casinos while we exploit their stellar bodies.

What if rocks are intelligent

>What if rocks are intelligent
What if we aren't?

Is space even empty enough for close to light speed travel? I imagine if you've got a space shit traveling at 99% the speed of light and you hit some space dust, the dust is just going to rip right through your hull.

Chances are if you've got that kind of energy you can warp space, which means you can just deflect the rocks with weird science shit.

of course not moon landing was faked to stop nuclear war.

Yes
ntrs.nasa.gov/archive/nasa/casi.ntrs.nasa.gov/20140000851.pdf
we literally warp drive soon