The New York Times just published an entire article about Julius Evola. What a time to be alive

such as?

>is what I like to call a pleb filter.
The term pleb filter was not coined by you.

My diary desu desu

Embarrassing post quality from so called Evola fanatics.

Evola was a Roman LARPer

>so called
By who?

who would you suggest?
I'm familiar with a long list of far right thinkers, and to suggest that Evola is pleb-tier lit is pure posturing. Have you actually read the majority of his work?

Richard Spencer spends more time with the media than he does with his own scene.

...

Well it's basically his full-time job so I don't know what you'd expect.

>reads half the wiki on Evola
>yep, this should suffice to write an article on the guy

Modern "journalism" everyone.

>Bannon reads Evola

WEW

Bannon actually comes off as a really intelligent guy. If he's a traditionalist, we may truly be swinging to the right.

The NYT is full on damage control.

>wanted to throw christians to the lions
>wanted to restore Roman paganism
>considered Mussolini and the blackshirts too tame
>advocated orgies as well iirc.
>they tried to imprison him post war but he was opposition the whole time.
>also unironically tried to volunteer for the Eastern Front, which was denied.
>he was publishing a paper in which he told how the fascists are soft faggots consorting with the catholics which almost got him killed so he stopped
>ran to Germany after fall of Italy, he joined the SS as a researcher.
>published a few books about sex and how pure aryans needed to have regular orgies Tantra, Yoga and other shit: „The Yoga of Power: Tantra, Shakti, and the Secret Way", "Eros and the Mysteries of Love: The Metaphysics of Sex. "

Sex, rock&roll and filo-fascism is what you need to know about Evola.

Evola is shit-tier
>hurr everything is degenerate we need to go back to old Roman values because I'm too much of a stupid sheep to make my own

this.

>he walked around the city during an air raid because it helped him think, got hit by a piece of something and became partly paralyzed
absolute madman tho

We are all gonna die in a storm of fire and nukes, hyperfascist renovation to violence, are you happy guys? you meme'd this world into existence after all.

You want that to happen solely because you want be right, 'told you so'. You are an arrogant piece of shit.

Not that user, but Evola is actually shit-tier. You can read Girard, Zubiri, Eric Voegelin. Even Perenialists such as Schuon or Guenón would be better reads.

>Claim there are more interesting right-wing writers out there
>Refuse to name any

I suspect you may be shitposting, user

It's not like Evola is banned or anything, he is just an incredibly obscure author. Virtually nobody was reading this guy until a year or two ago.

It's pretty tiresome

If it kills you, I'll consider it worth it.

I would hardly call him obscure. He is one of the most well known fascist writers. Umberto Eco even mentions him in his essay about fascism IIRC.

As far as the general population of the US is concerned, Eco is obscure too.

Eco obscure? wtf, really?

Some people might be familiar with the adaptation of The Name of The Rose, but most people here wouldn't know of him, let alone be familiar with his essay on fascism.

He's not a fascist.

The general US population thinks plato is a brand of fat-free margarine.

>you will ride the tiger in your lifetime
>you will be men among the ruins in your lifetimes
B E S T
T I M E L I N E

Evola despised mass politics and espoused quietism. The Jew York Times wishes he was more influential on the right.

I am not saying that *no one* knew who this guy was but your example isn't really disproving my point. A very limited number of people (at least in the US) know who Eco was, no less read his essays on fascism.

Evola was known in some academic circles but I would be shocked if even 0.1% of the American population had ever heard the name "Julius Evola" before 2015.

Things may be different in Europe (especially countries that had fascism).

Evola isn't super obscure - he is one of the names that comes up if the "intelligent fascists" write about their influences, etc. Also, he may come up if you read up on esotericism, etc.

But he is plenty obscure nonetheless - honest fascists aren't exactly popular with people who tend to read various forms of philosophy. Heidegger seems to get a pass for being a super fucking important philosopher, but others don't.

I think he can be called obscure when the people who knew him are likely to either 1. be kind-of fascists themselves or 2. be interested in some sort of weird esotericism. Even translations used to be kinda rare, and that is always something.

>literally liked the true fascist movements during his lifetime at one point or another
>literally called himself a kind of fascist, even post-war
>not a fascist

Right wing intellectuals are literally saving America. And Veeky Forums still claims the right is anti-intellectual

>And Veeky Forums still claims the right is anti-intellectual
Well, in general, the right is.

You're a goddamn idiot if some Bannon with some kind of a theory behind his beliefs overrides the fact that the right is largely anti-science in policymaking and generally wants to cut the funding of universities, culture, etc.

The left is also anti-science by indulging in creationism when it comes to humans.

>evolution stops at the neck up!

More like Jewlius Ebola

The Left is equally anti-science. Their anti-GMO hysteria is a good example. The Left also doesn't like the theory of evolution when it doesn't fit their equality narratives.

well his 14 points of fascism is becoming very famous as you might know if you've seen this picture being shared..

I read a story recently about some lady in the hospital because she was shoving teabags full of herbs up her snatch because her hippy guru said it would detoxify her womb.

That bitch was not right-wing.

Anti-science shit stretches all across political lines.
At one time right-wing anti-science was more dangerous, these days I have to say the left-wing variety is.

>At one time right-wing anti-science was more dangerous, these days I have to say the left-wing variety is.
I'll have to disagree. Pure ideological belief in capitalism and climate change denial are much more dangerous than some hippies believing in herbs/being anti-GMO/whatever. I'm not buying the evolution crap myself, either; I'm pretty sure evolution doesn't work quite like racists believe.

However, most of "the left" (the mainstream left) is almost equally bad when it comes to those two big problems, so whatever. Acknowledging climate change or being superficially critical of today's capitalism aren't enough if the policies are the same neoliberal crap with a slightly softer tone.

I read him four years ago, fuck off

Unless he's name dropped on world star hip hop the burgers won't know him

Looks like this guy hasn't read Fascism viewed from the right, wew

Fucking this.

Not even half of it.
>Evola's first published political work was an anti-fascist piece in 1925. In this work, Evola called Italy's fascist movement a "laughable revolution," based on empty sentiment and materialistic concerns. He expressed anti-Nationalist sentiment, stating that to become “truly human,” one would have to “overcome brotherly contamination” and “purge oneself” of the feeling that one is united with others “because of blood, affections, country or human destiny.” He also opposed thefuturismthat Italian fascism was aligned with, along with the "plebeian" nature of the movement.[43]

>In 1928 Evola wrote the textPagan Imperialism, a violent attack on Christianity, which proposed the transformation of Fascism into a system consonant with ancient Roman values and the ancient Mystery traditions, and which proposed that Fascism transform itself into a vehicle for re-instating the caste-system and aristocracy of antiquity. This text was a diatribe in the name of Fascism against the Catholic Church, which nevertheless led to Evola being criticized by the Fascist regime, as well as by the Vatican itself.

They haven't even read the good wiki article on Evola, it was gutted a couple of weeks back.

GMO is garbage, Monsanto stooge, and I'm to the right of you.

>disdain for intellectuals and the arts
lol, leftists sure love to pretend disdain for left-wing intellectuals and artists is disdain for intellectuals and art in general

>People don't care about your paper on Marxist themes in Bambi
>Muh Anti-intellectualism

the far right tends to consider nearly all of intellectuals / artists leftist propagandists

so yeah, if they have disdain for 90% of intellectuals or artists, they sure have disdain for them in general

nonetheless the far right sure always loves the right kind of art, there's a poet behind every ethnic cleansing

>the far right tends to consider nearly all of intellectuals / artists leftist propagandists

No, no they don't, you can stop attacking a bogeyman now, /pol/ loves Zizek, Winter etc.

>90%
lol

no

Baudolino is well regarded by medievalists.

I have my copy right here.

The guy is talking about the average people and you use fucking medievalists as a demographic that knows about Eco? How sheltered are you?

>illiterate /pol/ trolls come on Veeky Forums
>ask for far right literature
>We give them Hamsun, Evola, Junger, Mishima over and over
>They go over to Breitbart
>spout shit they have never read
>bannon sees that people are connecting with esoteric italian nationalist philosophy
>namedrops it
>internalizes it
>brings it to power

what have we done Veeky Forums?

absolutely

Saved the world obiously

>"average person"

pic related

Geg loggt

Most of the medievalists I know are pretty average people.

They have regular jobs and wear modern underwear and drive about in combustion powered auto-mobiles.

Medievalists are everywhere, they're just not a bunch of loud irritating cunts.

reading Evola = liking Evola
liking Evola = liking fascism
liking fascim = liking nationalsocialism
liking nationalsocialism = liking genocide
liking genocide = wanting to commit genocide
wanting to commit genocide = deserving to be ignored, ostracized, beaten, locked up or killed
∴
reading Evola = deserving to be ignored, ostracized, beaten, locked up or killed
Q.E.D.

Evola is trash.

Read Nicolás Gómez Dávila.

Well, I'm sold on it.

I always do precisely the thing I am told not to - what English edition do you recommend?

>Veeky Forums community works as a collective to find extreme right wing views due to the constant presence of /pol/, either to refute, mock, or agree with, resurrects interest Evola, Spengler, William Strauss as valid political sources
>/gsg/ resurrects interest in Oswald Mosley, Kaiser Wilhelm, creates apologists for King Leopold
>Alt-Right infiltration of /pol/ by real propagandists pick up on these notions
>Becomes public policy
>“The fact that Bannon even knows Evola is significant,” said Mark Sedgwick, a leading scholar of Traditionalists at Aarhus University in Denmark."
>traditional academia: "w-what? w-where is this shit coming from?"
>Esoteric early far-right revolutionaries start popping up in the times

I guess meme magic is real. Or rather, the collective autism of Veeky Forums bleeding over to paid shills bleeding over to public policy is real. What a fucking weird world.

Next we are going to see Tao Lin named Laureate

Guarantee we are going to see Bannon namedrop Belloc's The Servile State soon

breitbart.com/big-government/2016/04/28/rise-donald-trump-force-american-patriots-think-harder/

I despise Trump, he is a typical long island douche with a dangerous disregard for reason. But Bannon may be a truly brilliant thinker.

>Long Island
The dude's from Queens.

Something tells me he has been to one or two Islanders games, and fucked some Hofstra undergrad bitches out in Hempstead once or twice.

>Bannon: I think it’s a little bit more complicated. When Vladimir Putin, when you really look at some of the underpinnings of some of his beliefs today, a lot of those come from what I call Eurasianism; he’s got an adviser who harkens back to Julius Evola and different writers of the early 20th century who are really the supporters of what’s called the traditionalist movement, which really eventually metastasized into Italian fascism. A lot of people that are traditionalists are attracted to that.

Is he talking about Aleksandr Dugin? Bannon has read Dugin too?

The move right you see on Veeky Forums and off it are part of the same Zeitgeist. It's the swing of the pendulum, the counter movement to a failing of both liberal values and the authoritarian left. That's why you see so much "recommend good right wing literature" on Veeky Forums, that's why you see "fascist fashion" on Veeky Forums etc. Those liberal arts students protesting at Berkeley and the stars and media with their virtue signals and blatant lies will soon come to regret their actions when they realize they fueled the fire they sought to suffocate.

I can't help you with that.

>failing of both liberal values
post-structural social leftism =/= classical liberalism and 19th century republicanism.

I think its pretty clear that bannon is a traditionalist who seeks a judeo-christian economic paradigm (distributism????) that exists within the western cultural sphere, one that does due deference to both Ratzinger and Voltaire. The Evola stuff is what changes the spin cycle and honestly I dont know what to think of it, there are not many historical parallels to this.

If France, Italy, and Germany go right I think we are seeing 1798 or 1848 again.

>But Bannon may be a truly brilliant thinker.

Let's cut the bullshit: Jared Kushner is the only genius in the Trump administration.

>I guess meme magic is real. Or rather, the collective autism of Veeky Forums bleeding over to paid shills bleeding over to public policy is real. What a fucking weird world.

Nah, read Pynchon more.

Science is anti-intellectual. Science is the philosophy of mechanistic morons.

He seems competent, but Bannon is the one who has succeeded in everything he has done, and built a cohesive traditionalist ideology on a website with viagra spam in the comments.

I think Taleb is a better choice.

2016 was the death throes of the right. Getting Trump elected was a short-term victory but it just radicalised the left who were fine just defending neoliberalism when Obama was in office but now feel like they literally have to fight to survive. America is not a good place for tyrants.

>post-structural social leftism =/= classical liberalism and 19th century republicanism.
Sorry, I didn't mean to imply otherwise. When amongst Americans I tend to use the word a little too freely.

Throughout most of my life history was so distant, politics seemed so rigid and the civilized society so permanent. Realizing the possibly of change now is honestly quite fascinating.

>2016 was the death throes of the right

Literally retarded. During the Obama presidency, the democrats have lost over 1000 legislative seats from state and federal legislatures and governorship.

Playing identity politics has absolutely fucked them. Half the country is male and 70% is white. Many hispanics are catholic conservatives, most blacks are anti-gay. They played with fire and got burned, you cannot win elections with urban centers within the context of the electoral colleges. Add on to that a horrific attack in europe monthly by refugees and they will keep bleeding, even in western europe.

They need to go the Sanders route, stop demonizing gun owners and pro-lifers, and start promoting working men and women that are citizens. If Bannon's novo-distributism and Trumps infrastructure projects work, the American left will be fucked, barring another idiotic war.

I'm not talking about Democrats.

There is no other left in the US as sanders recent attempt has demonstrated, and there is a solid chance of Fillon getting blasted, and if that happens a leftist germany will face a center-right Anglo-French sphere along with Hungary, Austria and Poland, which will no doubt shatter the EU.

I am only tepidly against what is happening, and even I can see that this is a wave that has not abated, and that the left have been crushed recently.

The left cannot win through non-democratic means.

I can see getting Trump elected being a detriment to the "movement" because he gives them what they want. Which is nothing particularly extreme but just a tiny step towards the center really. And then everyone is either happy or unhappy with that but either way pacified.
However the radicalized left is exactly what the right needs to win. The more violent they get, the more they disgust and hinder the common folk the more power the radical right gets. Because they won't be calling for a civil war but a return to order. I hate making nazi comparisons because it's always more complicated than that but this isn't anything new. Look at the German response to extremists fighting in the streets, to Bolsheviks and the Reichstagsbrand.

>2016 was the death throes of the right.
loool

Does Brietbart have real influence? Does Bannon have real influence? Seems like they're just trail behind the trends that come out of /pol/.

I think it's too early to consider Bannon a real influential guy on the level of Dugin.

This guy sorta gets it. If the Trump administration fails to deliver on their promises, then the right is dead, at least in north America. The alt-right largely put all its eggs in the Trump basket. Although I question how long the left can sustain this anti-Trump momentum. They have the memory of goldfishes.

Can anyone recommend a good biography and analysis of Evola?

>Does Brietbart have real influence? Does Bannon have real influence?

nytimes.com/2017/01/29/us/stephen-bannon-donald-trump-national-security-council.html

>But the defining moment for Mr. Bannon came Saturday night in the form of an executive order giving the rumpled right-wing agitator a full seat on the “principals committee” of the National Security Council — while downgrading the roles of the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff and the director of national intelligence, who will now attend only when the council is considering issues in their direct areas of responsibilities. It is a startling elevation of a political adviser, to a status alongside the secretaries of state and defense, and over the president’s top military and intelligence advisers.

I still think Kushner has more influence and is more intelligent.

However, do you believe that there are competing factions in the Trump administration?