Cheese > sweet desserts

Wrong.
Retard.

Wisconsin """""cheese"""""

You are so American it fucking hurts.

a quick trip to wikipedia would tell you that you are, in fact, wrong. get over it

>Wikipedia
See

>Google auto define
LOL

>Wikipedia is bad
>Google autobot is fine

Sourced from the OED, no less.
Wikipedia is a compilation of millenial ignorance.

>the dictionary that changed the meaning of literally because of memes
LOL

Then what the fuck is it if not cheese?

>because of memes
What did he mean by this?

Some kind of pasteurized milk product.

>millennials using a word wrong so much that your sorry excuse for a dictionary changes the definition to appeal to them and seem relevant
LOL

>Then what the fuck is it if not cheese?

Some kind of shitty product that attempts to be cheese but isn't worthy of the name since it's so crappy.

Fucking hell guys. This needs to stop. I doubt you're even european, but either self hating americans or americans who fucking love to rile up your fellows. Fuck some of you are european and just love to stroke your hate boner.

>inb4 I'm american
I'm fucking italian and you fucks need to calm down.

>I doubt you're even european

9104548 here. I'm not European. I'm American. And the sad fact is that while our country has a lot of great things, the cheese is not it. Most of our cheese is downright awful compared to the rest of the world. We do have some pretty good ones, but the constant pressure to pasteurize everything has fucked over our cheese industry.

I was in Belgium recently and went to Chimay to get some beers fr the source. I also picked up some Chimay cheeses.

The Chimay grand cru is shit, don't waste your time finding it or your money buying it. Haven't tried the blue or the semihard one I got yet.

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>Most of our cheese is downright awful compared to the rest of the world.
Horseshit. Have you ever eaten much Latin American cheese? The shit they produce in India? How about any natively-produced cheese sold in East Asia? American cheese is only below European cheeses really and even then not all of them, it's a fucking meme that all American cheese is inherently the worst shit in the world.

You need to fucking off yourself. American cheese and european cheeses are on par as their bellcurves of quality mostly overlap.

Fucking try cheese produced anywhere but NA or europe, it's fucking garbage.

Latin American? Yes. While it's not my favorite style, it's certainly better than what you'd get in the average American supermarket.

East Asia? Never tried that. Sounds awful, in fact.

>>American cheese is only below European cheeses
Well sure. Are you triggered that I chose to write "rest of the world" instead of "europe"? My apologies if that was the case. You seem hung up geography, which is missing the point entirely.

>>it's a fucking meme that all American cheese is inherently the worst shit in the world.
It may not be literally the worst in the world, but the point stands that it's pretty bad.

I live in NYC. I can walk over to Murray's and get a nice slection of cheese compared to most Americans. But let's not kid ourselves here--we can buy plenty of "imports" but they're all made-for-export versions. The good unpasteurized stuff is banned due to Federal law. We can indeed buy "Brie imported from France" (and other types of cheese too). But those are pasteurized export versions, not the real deal.

I must admit I am rather partial to Humbolt Fog though.

>It may not be literally the worst in the world, but the point stands that it's pretty bad.
Yes, if you buy processed kraft slices they are bad. You need to actually buy good cheese in the states like you do anywhere else.

You sound like a self hating american with a fucking rose tinted view of anywhere but the states. Jesus fuck.

>You need to actually buy good cheese in the states like you do anywhere else.

The problem is that's very hard to do in the US. If you have access to a specialty shop like the aforementioned Murray's then you can get a good selection of cheeses. But for most of America that stuff isn't available. You walk up to the deli counter and all they have is Boar's Head, Tillamook, and Cabot. Those are not good cheeses.

>>sound like a self hating...
Wait, so being aware of and pointing out an honest fault is automatically "self hating" now? I'm sorry that I don't think my country is 10/10 perfect in all regards, user.

>Well sure. Are you triggered that I chose to write "rest of the world" instead of "europe"? My apologies if that was the case. You seem hung up geography, which is missing the point entirely.
You fucking what, just they Europe then. You word for word said "the rest of the world", that never refers explicitly to Europe.

well said friendo!! :D

What kind of cheese do you like ?

Nigga I'm the Italian. Tillamook is on par with most of the normal brands around here. You're literally just trying to hold up a select few European brands on a pedestal and say "this represents all European cheese". Again, off yourself.

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I'm well aware that cheap processed cheese exists everywhere in the world.

But in general, the day-to-day standard is much higher. At least it has been in my experience (I have family in Denmark and in England, and I have traveled to Netherlands, Germany, France, and Spain on business) I didn't try much cheese when I was in Spain, but in any of the other countries the normal stuff you'd get from a market or a restaurant would stomp the crap out of the equivalent American cheese.

anyone who doesnt eat at least one piece of RAW MILK cheese a day is a faggot.
also french cheeses > anglo, german, netherland plastic ''''''''cheeses'''''''. dont even try to argue

They sell raw milk cheese at the grocery store, here in the states. I don't know why we get so much crap about it. It's not all plastic cheese loaf.

Yeah you got rosey tastebuds m8. Neck yourself.

>They sell raw milk cheese at the grocery store

You live in a lucky location then. In most areas that would be highly illegal.

The whole raw-milk thing is rather strange. In most areas it's banned. In others it's available, but legally restricted (In my state it's legal, but only if you buy it directly from the dairy--it is illegal to sell it in a supermarket). And in others it's actually *encouraged* as a means of boosting the local economy.

>But those are pasteurized export versions, not the real deal.
There's a lot of good cheese made in Europe that is made with pasteurized milk. You can buy those in American import specialty stores but the prices are insane compared to what they cost in Europe.

The stuff you can get in European supermarkets is only marginally better than the American stuff. You have to go to an actual cheese only shop to get good stuff. Those are found in every mid sized town though.

Wrong as fuck, my dude

Do you even mountain cheese? Try some cheeses from the alpine region and never talk about plastic German cheese. That's a north, middle and eastern Germany thing. The south of Germany and Switzerland, Austria have all great cheese. Lots of it made with raw milk from grassfed, pasture raised cows and aged to perfection.

raw milk cheese is FDA legal as long as it's been aged for at least 60 days @ 35F

>You have to go to an actual cheese only shop to get good stuff. Those are found in every mid sized town though.

Yeah, that's what surprises me. It's very hard to find a specialist cheese shop in the US. But when my family went to visit relatives in the tiny little town of Vejle, Denmark (which is not famous for cheese) there were no less than three.

Yes. But the problem is that many of those cheeses are well beyond their best flavor at 60 days.

id on everything please

>ITT: Americans give their opinion about cheese.

On the top left, it looks like two different kinds of chutney. Perhaps an apricot and a blackberry chutney?

The bluecheese is obviously bluecheese, and the bottom right slice looks like mozzarella.

Im curious as to what the rest is as well.

Maybe you and the missus could compromise and have a wedding cheesecake?

I'd have said apricot and fig.

Anyone saying "All" or even "most" American cheese sucks is only illistrating their own ignorance and lack of exposure. Yes...most of the common commercial brands carried by most large -scale grocery stores ave very similar and very boring. In fact most are produced in the same handful of facilities with the only distinction being age color and cut. But....

If you honestly believe there is not amazing world-class cheeses being produced in the United States then you need to get out more.

If you believe Boars Head and Cabot are great cheeses you should just hurt yourself.

The Dutch make the best cheese

Yes, it can definitely be fig as well

The bluecheese is gorgonzola
>the bottom right slice looks like mozzarella
No, mozzarella is whiter and softer, that's probably simple cow cheese not very aged.

How do you know what to buy though?

I buy cheese but its all the same normie tier shit

I want something good

>Price doesn't matter

why do amerifats dye their cheese orange?

Why do Europeans dye their carrots orange?