Do you use "The Method of Loci" or "Memory Palace" to remember key points of the book?

Fuck man, I thought you were trolling.

It's such a weird thing to describe since most people just assume it as a given. It's sort of like explaining sight to a blind person, you can't really do it. It's not like you just conjure up a movie whenever you read, you sort of have to willfully do it - it's not something I do constantly when I read.

Damn man. Sorry for making your day shittier.

Nah man chill out, if you can actually draw, you probably don't fucking have it. Could you draw a portrait that resembled someone you know but haven't seen for a while right now?

Nope, I can draw extremely realistic faces, but I can't get specific enough, that's why I mostly draw landscapes.
I usually trace certain lines, decide what details I'm going to put and then I ''improvise'' them. I'll end up with a tree, but not with a specific one, unless I spend a few hours drawing real trees around me.

Nah I'm the same. It's really weird but apparently people can see things with their eyes closed. I can't see how.

have you tried smoking weed or doing acid? maybe all you need is a kickstart

wait if you cant imagine things how do you even come up with stuff?

Maybe he looks at a reference? I’ve never understood how people draw in the first place.

When a write describes something, usually an image will appear in your head based on past experience. Only happens if it's engaging tho.

you imagine it in your head and draw from that in the same way you'd draw from a real life reference. or you "feel it". if you have no imagination idk how you can draw anything original

It’s not ‘a lack of imagination’, it’s the inability to conjure images in your head. I still have trouble believing people can actually do this.

i dont know. no one has described it in an understandable way to me, so im kinda lost. also, it seems like a lot of work.

we can. i never knew people couldn't do this until just now. if you've gotten this far though then you don't really even need it user dont let it get you down. i bet your work is super detailed because of it. but try acid or dmt. it might kick start something.

user whenever i draw women alot of times i'll imagine what there curves feel like in certain areas to draw it more accurately. sounds creepy, but it works. can you do this?

Yeah I see movies every time I read. Sometimes I get so into it I'll like snap out of it after a few chapters and realize I've been looking at a page with letters and it'll give me the creeps. Also when I close my eyes and if I'm under the right mindset I can just see movies acted out from the third person. It's also how I dream always 3rd person, always edited for good pacing and excitement sometimes a soundtrack is present. I'm pretty bitter about the dreams though because I always wanted to have lucid dreams and live out first person fantasies but idk if this is possible for me.

lucid dreams are awesome. when i was a horny teenager i'd have lucid dreams where i fucked all of my hot teachers and favorite pornstars

I used to tend to view things in the third person, but I can do either first or third just fine now.

You still have the chance to lucid dream, but you need the resolve.

I dream rarely. I fear not often enough for the necessary practice.

There might be a correlation of high intelligence and frequency of dreams, which may mean you aren't intelligent enough. I don't know how much credence to give to such a correlation.

No, I can’t draw at all—it’s not that I’m exceptionally bad, it’s just that I’m at the level anyone who has not drawn anything from age seven would be.
As to the feeling, here’s the thing: that you are unaware of something on a conscious level does not mean you are wholly incapable of it, e.g. there is a phenomenon known as blindsight where a blind individual is capable of grabbing and avoiding objects; this is because he can actually see them—the message just cuts off before it reaches the ‘conscious’ part. Though there seems to be very little research on aphantasia—the term itself seems to have been coined two years ago—I suspect something similar is at play: you can imagine things and sense on a more basic level, but cannot visualise them. And besides, you can tell from looking at a picture when it looks ‘wrong’ and the picture needn’t be complete to do this—the brain is quite good at filling in the blanks.

>you can imagine things and sense on a more basic level, but cannot visualize them
Are imagination and sensation necessarily more basic levels? Imagining an image, and abstractly imagining different permutations, can sometimes occur after visualizing them, in common brains.

And the brain may even visualize them at a neurochemical level, it's just that consciously visualizing them may not occur.

I've tried them. Weed at high doses will give me closed eyes visuals, same the same thing happens when I take above half a LSD blotter, yet I never have control over those visuals.

On weed I'll have no immediate control over the visuals, but if I get cozy and start thinking at some point I'll end up in a trance and I'll see an actual, freaky movie completely built in my consiousness. It never makes sense, at some point I'll just drift off and I'll start saying random words while building narratives on it.

On LSD I honestly don't know what the fuck happens most of the time. I'll close my eyes and I'll start seeing images in 4D that somehow perfectly incapsulates every single aspect and nuance of what I'm thinking, yet I never have actual control over those visuals too.
I'll think about ''home'' and I'll see a magnificent rendition of my concept of ''home'', but I won't be able to actually change any visual aspect of the hallucination, I have power only over its general theme.

LSD kinda kickstarted my imagination for a few months in a fucked up way. If I was well rested and I close my eyes I was able to see on a black background certain items, never having control over them (usually gems and jewels). When I had to go to sleep instead everything became fucked up. I would close my eyes for half a second and I would see extremely detailed images, always random.
Usually it would be buildings and structures, but every once in a while 100% realistic creepy faces, gore images and spectral dogs would appear. Stuff like that, always nonsensical. The first time it happened I close my eyes and 1 second later I was seeing rabid skinless dogs jumping on me.
It was fascinating, since those images were 100% random and had absolutely no relationship with what I had seen thorough the day, yet for months I suffered from a tremendous insomnia cause of that.

I don't know, I just make it up. I'm not drawing specific trees, I just know what branches, leaves and wood look like.
As I said it's pure improvisation.

Dude it's not a big deal. I was born deaf so I had a killer visual imagination when I was young, but since I got surgery so I could hear that shifted to the point where I don't even picture things at all anymore. Instead I store information in my head as "pure thought" (crazy fucking efficient) and "voice" (supper inefficient but nice). I make a living writing novels and movies. Visual-spatial imagination is for fucking PLEBS.

Some people are robots, but they don't know they are robots. They are like golems, they are essentially the same as we, but without soul. We shouldn't do them no harm, the poor things.

>Instead I store information in my head as "pure thought" (crazy fucking efficient) and "voice" (supper inefficient but nice). I make a living writing novels and movies. Visual-spatial imagination is for fucking PLEBS.
You're either a troll or ignorant, but either way, you're fucking stupid.

Most of the books I've read are associated in my mind with random locations around where I live. It's wierd. Most of these places are of my commute home so whenever I'm passing through I remember these books.

Martin Place reminds me of Clochemerle, Macquarie St reminds me of The Name of the Rose, seeing that school next to the Harbour Bridge reminds me of The Crocodile (the Dosty short story), the bottom of Bell St near North Sydney Station reminds me of Plutarch's Life of Sulla.

Oh shit this must suck. It's like the opposite of when I found out I had synesthesia. 'Oh so not everyone sees colours the way I do? Shit, that's pretty cool.'

I don't find it works for me, because that method precludes remembering dreams or sleeping visions. I use memory. If I forget something "necessary," I then make a point of "committing it to memory" by repetition.

I feel like a mind palace would only bind my imagination. Maybe I'm just a retard, but at least I remember all of my dreams

Can you reason about 3d objects either or is it both visual and spatial that you lack?
Can you at least hear stuff with your inner ear?

This is absolute shit in terms of bait.

Literally no one on earth hasn't heard the phrase "Picture this in your mind". I can't believe you people actually think this guy didn't know what thought was

People also say that typed shitposts are a waste of breath. Sometimes things aren't taken literally.

Same, I can only think in black and white easily; I have to concentrate to maintain an idea of a real colour, my mindscape always ends up looking like a Frank Miller comic I half-read once.

I developed probably the closest thing to photographic memory due to a long history gaslighting, but I'm skeptical such a thing even exists.

Its kind of hard to be friends with anyone when you remember every little inconsistency.

Can you explain the method, or would you provide a link?

I think I know what it is, but I would like to be certain, or gain a new perspective on it at least.

ITT: user gets his mind fucking BLOWN

>have super vivid dreams
>can barely make images in my brain when awake
How does it compute