What is the Asian equivalent of starting with the Greeks?
What is the Asian equivalent of starting with the Greeks?
Hunter Powell
Gabriel Price
Tale of Genji
Cameron Miller
It's also starting with the Greeks.
Bentley Campbell
the four chinese novels
Journey to the West is one. It's a wild fuckin' ride, too.
Anthony Martin
Confuscianism
Mencius
Xunzi
Taoism
Buddhism (know key ideas and the differences between Theravada, Mahayana, and Vajrayana)
Asher Ross
Start with the four books and the five classics 四書五經:
en.wikipedia.org
Four books:
Great Learning
Doctrine of the Mean
Analects of Confucius
Mencius
Five Classics:
Book of Songs
Book of Documents
Book of Rites
Book of Changes
Spring and Autumn Annals
Of the above, in English probably just read the "Four Books", then read "Records of the Grand Historian".
en.wikipedia.org
Gabriel Collins
Start with the greeks
Andrew Thomas
Sta ru to wi ta de gre ku so.
Grayson James
An Introduction to Chinese Philosophy: From Ancient Philosophy to Chinese Buddhism by Jeeloo Liu
The Complete I-Ching by Huang
Readings in Classical Chinese Philosophy by Philip J. Ivanhoe, Bryan W. Van Norde
Liu begins by telling you how foundational is the Yijing (I-Ching) for all East Asian thought, concepts like Dao, Heaven and Earth, the process philosophy of changes, Yin and Yang, all were introduced there.
Ivanhoe and Norde have pretty much everything, Confucius, the whole Daodejing, Mencius, the inner chapters of the Zhuangzi, Mozi, Legalism, etc.
Brody Turner
Did you mean sutaato wizu za guriikkusu?
Ryder Ward
Start with the Gooks
Jackson Miller
Start with the Chinese, as per:
Colton Martin
Commence with the Chinese
Juan Morgan
start with the baghdad gitah, onii-chan
Robert Morris
Start with the four books and five classics
Jordan Robinson
That's wonderful
David Wilson
commence with the chinese
Lincoln Powell
Lao Zi - Dao De Jing
Read that shit then come to me. Also disregard anything said in this thread. Start with that, research what it is and what it implies and more things will come to you naturally, like with the greeks.
Hunter Mitchell
Literally all you should read by the chinese are the Four Great Classics, don't be retarded.
Evan Thompson
Why would you purposely limit your scope? There is a very rich literary tradition you are missing out on.
Chase Powell
winner
Matthew Baker
They're all in chink though
Easton Morgan
That's nothing like starting with the Greeks, that's like starting with Dickens.
No, it's not nearly so influential as any of these It's white people shit, like "The Art of War".
William James
intertested. i used to love the dynasty warrior series and want to know the prereq's for romance of the three kingdoms
Xavier Adams
>It's white people shit, like "The Art of War".
And you don't want the OP to read that because....?
Remember that the Illiad and Odisey are the whitest of white people snob shit. Fuck man, more people need to become familiarized with asian texts.
Jaxon Brown
The first two books on that list (Great Learning, Doctrine of the Mean) are available in this pretty good annotated translation:
www.indiana.edu/~p374/Daxue-Zhongyong.pdf
Confucius and Mencius are available in many online and printed translations.
Levi Williams
learn Classical Chinese, brainlet
Michael Sanders
I was just being playful, of course Laozi is important.
Nolan Brooks
Probably the Analects and Mencius to understand the aesthetics, and also the Records of a Grand Historian for the mythological history leading up to the Han dynasty's collapse.
Julian Martinez
Advance with the Anime!
Nolan Russell
Wish with the weebs.
Liam Thomas
Get up with Genji
Jaxon Collins
...
Kayden Watson
Chinese to the East Asians, Greeks to the Russians and Turcic people (the muslims), India to the Indians. Japan has its own thing, but it is rooted in China, although it is downplayed quite a bit there if I understood it correctly.
Joking! It was the Great Nordic Vikings.
Dominic Collins
Egypt, Babylon and Greece to the Arabs and the Middle Easterners.
Andrew Morales
Start with the Chinks
Robert Edwards
lol
Oliver Butler
...
Wyatt Bennett
bump
Matthew Morris
This and,
Read them in Swedish then.
Dominic Clark
10/10
Jace Sanchez
read Zhuangzi / Chuang Tzu senpai
it's lit af
Christopher Williams
I am came in here just to post this but you beat me to it. Well played sir
Xavier Turner
>Asian
Who cares?
Austin Torres
Commence with the Chinese
Noah Clark
Nope
Nuh uh
This would be like starting with Dante and Cervantes.
Warmer
Ding ding ding dong ching chong ping pong ming mong
I haven't seen anyone mention them but the Vedas are to the Old Testament for the eastern tradition what the Chinese are to the Greeks.
Jacob Hughes
Gavin Adams
killing yourself
Jaxson Williams
>the Vedas
Isn't that pooinloo?
Jonathan Morgan
Veeky Forums-science.wikia.com/wiki/Math_Textbook_Recommendations
David Baker
this
Mason Thompson
Yes, and the Old Testament is jewinloo. That's what makes them so similar: Old religion is turned on its head by a savior and spreads through neighboring but originally distinct cultures. Christianity came from Judaism but spread through Greece, Rome, and all of the West. Buddhism came from Hinduism but spread through China, Japan, and all of the East.
Andrew Green
Starting with the Greeks or Asians is the same, read Campbell
Matthew Perez
I have and that's not what he says. While he does believe in a fundamental shared basis of all myths as a reflection of the psyche, he recognizes sociological features of myths that cause them to need reconstruction in the face of changing circumstances. He would also tell you that it's not enough merely to read the Greeks or the Asians, you must read both and more to extract the universal from the particular.
William Stewart
I'm a cotton bowl.
You're a silky leaf.
Ryan Morgan
The Four Great Classical (Chinese) Novels:
Water Margin
Romance of the Three Kingdoms
Journey to the West
Dream of the Red Chamber
Korean:
The Cloud Dream of the Nine
Songs of the Dragons Flying to Heaven
The Story of Hong Gildong
Chunhyangjeon
Japan:
The Tale of Genji
The Tale of the Bamboo Cutter
Nansō Satomi Hakkenden
Snow Country - Yasunari Kawabata
Asher Hill
start with digimon (which contrary to popular belief, predates pokemon)
Carson Parker
starting with the chinks
Parker Cox
Veeky Forums doesnt use enough god tier syllabi
Jaxon Robinson
...
Colton Hall
Western culture has an intellectual continuity with the Ancient Greeks, but there's no such thing as the Asian intellectual tradition. You'd have to study by region or people (ex: Indians, Chinese, Japanese, etc). Reading basic texts and primary source material on Buddhism and its various schools of thought is useful, but I don't find the use of the term Asia useful in trying to study philosophy or religion; you're better off narrowing it down
Caleb Butler
This is something I wish I happened more often.