What do you think Veeky Forums? I'm honestly surprised that the School of Oriental and African Studies doesn't already teach a lot about Indian and Chinese philosophy or political thought and also that there is controversy in them doing so.
>The School of Oriental and African Studies was founded in 1916 “to secure the running of the British Empire” >Soas taught them the local languages as well as providing “an authoritative introduction to the customs, religions, laws of the people whom they were to govern”.
Sounds like courses on non-european thought would be an essential part of the curriculum. Why is this being spun as outrageous anti-white or SJW demands?
Hunter Wilson
>I'm honestly surprised that the School of Oriental and African Studies doesn't already teach a lot about Indian and Chinese philosophy or political thought It doesn't have much of a philosophy department at all. But the one philosophy course it teaches is called something like 'world philosophy', so I'm pretty sure it does teach those things.
>Why is this being spun as outrageous anti-white or SJW demands? Because right-wing identity politics, obviously.
Jaxson Miller
>Because right-wing identity politics, obviously. From the Guardian?
Elijah Adams
If you don't leave college with an immense respect for white people then the college is doing something wrong
Jack Jenkins
>Why is this being spun as outrageous anti-white or SJW demands? Because it's non-news that made it to the Guardian because of an agenda and because the term "decolonise our minds" is an obvious indicator of that agenda.
>if we listen to the smartest men who existed and those happen to be white, we're being oppressed >only when we're being taught mira gonzalez tweets can we finally be truly enlightened
Adrian Taylor
>It's another bait thread for /pol/ users
Fucking stop. You faggots are worse than /pol/ users themselves.
Connor Sanchez
Is the Guardian spinning it that way?
Joshua Hernandez
It is that they are (at best) getting rid of European thinkers when there is no Non-White equivalent and (At worst) lying about the origin of core philosophical ideas.
Brody Hall
At best it is racial discrimination. At worst it is out right lying.
Daniel Bennett
Good luck with that SOAS.
Luke Martinez
>Why is this being spun as outrageous anti-white or SJW demands?
Because there are stupid right-wingers
Matthew Moore
Enlightenment philosophy is genuinely beyond terrible, so really anything is an improvement.
Ethan Phillips
Oh boy, here's an idea:
Teach multiple courses on BOTH because you're a fucking university in Britain, and even a university in a non-colonized country like Japan will teach European philosophy.
Zachary Fisher
Why are you writing as if this is a proposal to get rid of all European philosophy from SOAS courses?
Liam Morales
The proposal will lead to that.
Michael Russell
Do you really need to ask the obvious?
Elijah White
Here an idea, if blacks and muslims think that they are being discriminated against they can go back to the shithole that they came from.
Eli Morris
>is the Guardian spinning things in a right-wing direction? Yes. Seems unusual tbph
Luis Cruz
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Levi Cooper
>>The School of Oriental and African Studies was founded in 1916 “to secure the running of the British Empire”
So why is it still around? Unless the Brits are planning on getting their empire back any time soon, it seems to have outlived its usefulness.
Hunter Wright
How?
Asher Young
>He really believes that the guardian is a true leftist newspaper and not a capitalist propaganda tool meme brainlet
Ian Gutierrez
>Why outrageous
The university is located in the west. Thus it is unusual to exclude western philosophers from it to be too western. I dont get the craze, do african universities dont teach whatever thought has occured in their general cultural sphere before the western ones?
Joseph Wilson
I didn't imply the Guardian was truly leftist, merely that I wouldn't expect it to be full of right-wing anti-immigrant British nationalism.
Joseph Morgan
'Decolonisation' is ironically based on a modern western notion of authenticity. You can't restore the 'pure' native understanding of things because all viewpoints are historically conditioned. Such attempts rely on a dichotomy in which the east is seen as organic and irrational and the west is rational and artificial. It precludes any real understanding of chinese/indian/islamic thought in its own right, it becomes merely a mystical foil to the west. Yoga as we know it, for example, is not an ancient mystical exercise but a product of early 20th century health fads and middle class nationalism, much like the indian equivalent of the czech Sokol movement or Nazi mass gymnastics.
Liam Morales
Which postcolonial writers adopt that very naive stance, user?
Kevin Howard
>Muh spooky right wing!!!! Because the entire idea of 'decolonizing' your mind by avoiding white writers is retarded. Nothing wrong with exploring non-white philosophy, though these philosophies tend to be all about 'non-white identity' after a certain point in history, and it even makes sense given the type of study they are doing but their attitude and rhetoric makes them look retarded and they're clearly trying to establish themselves as what they believe is the resistance/counterculture but what is actually just the trend atm.
Jeremiah Powell
Vivek Chibber has criticized postcolonial theory from a marxist perspective. It can easily turn into a tool for local bourgeoisie, as in contemporary india where right wing nationalists have started using 'postcolonial' arguments for blatantly reactionary ends.
Dominic Jenkins
pop postcolonialism has even impacted the way islamic indian and chinese thought is taught in mainstream western philosophy departments. ie. medieval islamic thinkers removed from their theological context and greek philosophy, constituted instead as 'marginalized voices' which bring 'fresh perspectives' on issues such as 'race and gender'
Jack Torres
Thanks, but I was thinking more of which serious advocates of decolonisation are that naive. Sounds to me like it could be a straw man, to be honest- you'd have to be pretty dumb to believe you could recover a 'true' pre-colonial Indian philosophy. I'm sure it's useful to nationalists, of course, but from the little I've seen of postcolonial scholarship it's hard to believe that serious academics could be so naive.
Xavier Anderson
My experience is with american pop identity academics, which are very much fixated on authenticity. The self conception mexicans have of themselves is actually very different from the 'mexican' identity which is promoted by institutions on the other side of the rio grande, which is often nothing more than americanised oprah sentimentalism and unreconstructed new age gibberish, like this book for example