Weed and literature

>not reading on cocaine.

I think you might be better off over on reddit

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23892868

Are you the 22-year old man?

I stopped smoking three years ago because weed staring giving me anxiety, which I don't normally have at all.

I still get hankerings to start smoking again. Is there any way to get high without freaking out?

Use methods which let you control how much you take in, say a pipe or bong rather than joint or edible. Also do it in a relaxing setting, watch a movie if you feel yourself getting anxious. Something not to heavy but engaging enough to keep your attention.

Also, I enjoy reading high, but it takes some amount of "practice". You have to power through the initial phase where you can't focus at all, after about 10-15 minutes, you should be good, as long as you didn't get astronomically fucked up, which is pointless. Same goes for creative writing.

>I'm a lazy bum if I have weed laying around.

Why is that? Seems to afflict everyone I know who smokes.

I am a 22 year old man with no other previous health problems, but this happened about two months ago, not three and a half years ago. I feel badly for that 38 year old though, whoever and wherever he may be.

I ruined weed for myself. It used to be a wonderful moderate pleasure, and I maintained that habit for a few years. But eventually I started smoking every night, and bow every time I smoke it's an incredibly depersonalizing / derealizing experience that yields little pleasure and immense discomfort. I'll wait a while and try to smoke again just to recapture what I used to get out of it, but it almost always fails.

Because I just can't "smoke less". I don't know exactly why, but I suspect it could be genetics, really. A good part of my family has dependency (is this a real word?) problems.

This, totally.
10 years habit here.

I can bang out philosophical essays like clockwork. No, they do not make sense.
I also like to read poetry while stoned, and occasionally sit down with, and occasionally read from, infinite jest.

i've written high numerous times. typically what i'll do is take an edible, browse Veeky Forums until it kicks in, then lay on the couch and write until i run out of things to say. it's a fun way to do some stream of consciousness and i'm less inhibited stoned than sober.

however, when i revisit what i write while sober very little of it is salvageable. many of the ideas are incoherent or banal.

desu the best time to write is the day after a blaze early in the morning with a cup of coffee.

Funny that you mention it. I got high last thursday and read the eschaton part in bed. It was a fucking blast.

Can this thread stick to the fucking topic for once and not turn into a "how do I use weed" thread.

I fucking LOVE work inspired by weed (e.g., Wilson, Pynchon, etc.). It's such a unique headspace. I have a nearly finished novel where lots of parts were under the influence of different drugs, and tying them together is really fun whole sober.

One state of consciousness looking at another state it really nifty. This is how we can increase intelligence rather than just learn more facts.

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>This is how we can increase intelligence rather than just learn more facts.

Don't know if it was your original intention, but I like the idea of knowledge being a lot more than just dry facts derived from empirical testing.

Joyce obviously loved writing while stoned.

post extracts

This is actually true, he did cocaine and absinthe every day while writing

Once it's published and copyrighted I will. I'm so paranoid of my work being stolen on Veeky Forums that I can't even enjoy the crit threads as much as I'd like. The darkside of all the drugs, perhaps. But still worth it.

I love reading while high. If I smoke too much, it really slows me down and makes dense lit harder to grasp, but I've found the sweet spot recently. It really helps me block the rest of the world out and be completely immersed in the work.

Its been a major influence to my poetry.
There has been a history of poets that were major pot heads.

I relate to all the posts talking about how weed makes them lazy and all that
I will just stick to shrooms
What are some trippy books?

Do any of you have noticed permanent bad effects on your intellect from smoking weed?

I like smoking weed from time to time, but I feel guilty when I do. I'm such a pussy...

Yeah, but I guess I was a brainlet since the begining, only and idiot would smoke enough to make himself even more dumb

I can't read, write or anything productive on weed.....Indica or sativa.
Listening to music is my limit

Reading Rimbaud on weed is next level famalamamanalana

Look the biggest thing that all drugs fuck with is sleep quality. A lot of people self medicate with alcohol and weed to calm themselves, and it helps to GET to sleep. But sleep quality itself (going through the fight phases of sleep) is really impaired. This is more to blame for those "next day fuzzies" than the effects of the drug itself.

This is also why people notice intense dreams after stopping smoking. You're actually compensating for a lack of REM and deep sleep.

After prolonged use the required sleep catchup can be enormous.

Ohh, so that's why I slept 24 hours the other day

getting baked and reading is def underrated.

i usually listen to music or just talk with people when i'm high but reading in isolation is always pleasurable. i usually read a lot slower but i really savor every single idea. the only problem is if i smoke too much then i forget pretty much everything the next day. i'll also drink tea or coffee so i don't nod off.

just have some discipline and minimize your drug use. it's really a win-win scenario if you can limit yourself to smoking once a week max

>conserve weed
>maximize your enjoyment
>not a slow idiot stoner
>still enjoy enhanced mood and imagination

i can't imagine having a real trip and focusing on more than a page

guys, let's discuss my little pony and literature! I really like getting blackout drunk and "Reading" books lit!

ritual suicide yourself OP you laughable faggot

>paying for poison

so is rilke

Shitty b8 is way overdone.

I ran into writers block when I was writing a twenty page essay on Song of Myself's metaphysical and democratic depiction of sex. I smoked two bowls and I instantly knew what to add. I also masturbated to gay porn for two hours... I got an A on the course.

This. I never EVER dream if I smoke. It's so weird.

anyone got tips on learning to completely let go?

mind starts attempting and spewing all kinds of weird shit but at the same time there's a lot of distress over certain sensations in my body and the story of my life so far

thanks
i knew weed was fucking with me

>smoke weed daily from age 15-21, bouts if heavy psychedelic usage throughout with long gaps in between
>comfortable with idea of death in general
>2 deaths in family within a couple of months
>find some minor skin cancer, get it removed
>start becoming a hypochondriac and incredibly paranoid about well-being of loved ones when high
>start thinking legitimately insane thoughts: "maybe I should kill my mother so I don't get blindsided by her death like these other ones"
>really scare myself with these thoughts
>no more weed
>anxiety starts to plague my sober life
>want to start smoking weed again as I feel it curbed general anxiety but brought on insanity and violent thoughts

What do? Been sober for about a year now.

Be prepared to feel seriously stressed out when you quit, tho. First week I felt angry at everything.

Is this a meme

>Smoke for a few weeks
>smoke for a few more weeks
>Say fuck it and smoke a SHIT TON one night, get trapped in an infinite loop of birth and death, realize time is infinite, see parts of my mind that are usually behind the curtain, lose all mental ties with my body and feel no more bodily pains or aches, have thoughts about thoughts about thoughts about thoughts, realize that I am reality experiencing itself, the thought strikes me that I might be going insane, how will I get back to reality? realize that I am extremely sexually frustrated and pretty insecure; like looking at these thoughts under a microscope, realize that I'm very lonely and want someone to love. Realize that I will likely die and be born again many times. How will I ever snap back to reality? I don't want to go insane. But do I really want to go back? There was so much I didn't like there. Maybe I'll stay here.

It was like acid, which I've done before. Seriously freaked me out.
I still don't feel like I'm the same person. As a matter of fact, I don't even know what a 'person' is anymore..

I don't know what happened. I got too high, and the weed acted as a psychedelic. Terrifying and a pretty enlightening experience. Makes you realize how different the myriad of ways people experience reality are. fuck..

how much weed were you smoking?

I don't know what to do about the information of garnered from these experiences. They are knowledge and facts in their own right, but I'm not sure they help me much in this 'dimension'. They really just reinforce the idea that what happens in this 'dimension' doesn't really matter all that much.

This isn't a bad thing. Call it a spirit quest. Now stop intake, be VERY gentle with yourself, and write down your reflections for at least 15 minutes a day for a week.

This is the path to post traumatic growth.

I smoked like 1.5g. I really don't think that was the catalyst though. I almost feel like my brain was 'primed' for it

Oh yes, one more thing I remembered: Be careful with what you put into your mind. Attend to it like a garden, and fill it with love, joy, compassion, and god. Because if you plant the seeds in your daily life for it, you will experience Hell in whatever this state is. I am hesitant to even type that out because I don't want to remember that possibility.

I used to have a egoistic approach towards life because I had found justifications for it, and now I am questioning it entirely, which is a bummer in some ways, because there are so many physical advantages to being an unscrupulous person without guilt

I don't know why that other guy responded with 1.5 g but I was smoking about a gram a day on average through a few bong hits spaced out throughout the day. You know how it is with friends, though, so often times that 1g would be matched by others and there have been countless nights of multiple blunts and joints and bowls being passed around. When I was in high school and freshman year of college I was smoking an eighth a day easy.

I am and I don't agree with this sentiment. Positive psychology's "think good thoughts" creed is good up to a point, but it is way more important to value everything that comes to us rather than stress out about every thought that pops up. That leads to meta-anxiety and repression.

Just treat everything as food for thought, no more no less.

reefer and the ol' pynchmeister go together like PB & J

i'm the last post you replied to, and i'm in no way a habitual user, only trying to make it a regular thing now but not sure how to manage the head space, paranoia, and other drug and outside of drug related anxieties

although my conviction is that substances in general only highlight what's already in a person

>Just treat everything as food for thought, no more no less.
i'm with this guy here
yeah sure i've had some 'insights' into myself and my world, and sure i've felt that the jump to mysticism was the only reference i had to connect to reality in any way, but none of the thoughts change anything

my current conviction is that along with physiological effects, all drugs do is expand the boundaries of imagination, and ultimately i think the only real goal to have is to not be bothered by anything witnessed while on these states

sure, live a life by the guidelines of certain values, but i don't think there's any reason to have anxiety over any of it, not logically anyway

perhaps all these experiences we're having with anxiety are nothing more than us becoming more self aware of ourselves

Here's my problem. On one hand, I have my life. I am currently seeing 2 women right now, neither of which know each other. I also lied about my credentials to get the current job that I have, and I have committed insurance fraud in the past and plan to again in the future.

On the other hand, I have these experiences, and I feel that I can no longer do these things I've been doing because of them.

haha le weed makes me enlightened and makes le understand le books like le schopenhauer - on le women

Is this whole recent childish "DUDE WEED" meme stemming from the latest pol attitudes? It doesn't seem like something that could have originated on lit. Writers have always had their muses; chemical or no.

>recent
It's existed for longer than you've had hair on your dick.
>Writers have always had their muses; chemical or no.
Fuck off Hellenophile.

signed,
never done psychadelics

>Fuck off Hellenophile
Wow. You're *really* new here.

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guilt?

i don't know man, i wish i was in your shoes experiencing a higher quality problem, which is still the same common experience of having anxiety over personal incongruences.

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Smoking only inhibit my productivity, so I don't do it anymore. I've got better things to do than just sitting around and being a bum, like reading and writing. Also, if you don't enjoy being sober, then, you've got to do some serious self reflection.

signed,
14-year-old ganja gremlin

Enjoy wasting your time on the sticky green Jew, meanwhile the girls you jack off to go after me because they can't stand the smell of that garbage (and if they use it, they're going after black kids anyway.)
>O glorious Muse! sing to me so that I may create! *smokes blunt*
Yeah I'm the new one here.

I am and what really gets to me is the oft-quoted stat that smoking weed habitually during teen years can bring out underlying mental diseases such as schizophrenia in your 20s, and that's the situation I'm in. That terrifies me considering the thoughts I've had. What you said is all well and good until the mental state becomes one of an actual mental illness and needs treatment before something disastrous happens
Never did I ever think I'd say weed made me crazy and violent (in my head) but that's how it happened.

you're not your thoughts brahhhhhhh
you've *actually* done violent things?

why don't you talk to a trained medical expert if you're so worried about it, srs

I can't read anything literary while stoned, but on the comedown it's nice.

>not getting horny while reading the Great White Gay Bard

Were you abused by someone wearing a marijuana leaf costume or something?

No??!?

You must have repressed it.

nice

Psychobabble. Go hide your stash from mommy before she comes to tuck you in.

You are clearly the one conditioned to think weed is something to hide from mummy. Go tuck yourself into bed and call yourself a good ickle boy just like she used to!

Bumping 4 weed lmao

If it wasnt for weed I would had never got past the sirens chapter of Ulysses desu

I have been high on weed all the time for the past 4 years. Quitting this month. AMA.

No one cares

Weed is pretty shit tier tho. Psychedelic master race reporting.

Have you tried smoking less?

I'm asking that because I did, and failed miserably.

I tried in so many ways. I stashed my weed in difficult to get places, only to have to ride my bike at night to get it.

I tried "you only smoke as a prize for getting things done", but I would constantly cheat myself.

I tried giving it to my GF and saying "ONLY GIVE ME IF I DESERVE IT" just to fight her and have another stash hidden.

I'm too weak for the mary jane. And that's why I had to stop.

>weed didnt become psychedelic for him after his first psy trip
Pleb tier

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Stop reading and go fuck yourself.

> weed is a shitty habit forming drug
> will soon be legal in my country
> opium completely illegal

The earth isn't fair

dude I once ate weed and understood German philosophies lmao

>opiate
>not the most addictive drug, going way beyond habit forming and into life destroying
You're an idiot, user. Though I think all drugs should be legal everywhere.

Opium is mild as shit. Opium is an opiate but it is also the most mild opiate.

Weed is dangerous because it is insidious. People who are addicted to weed don't even realize it 99% of the time and rationalize it as a harmless panacea.

If someone has an addictive personality then opium will let them hit rock bottom faster. But responsible opium use is patrician tier.

The faggot that synthesized fentanyl/everyone who sells fentanyl should be throw into the ocean for forever tainting opiates.

My short-term memory is shit when I'm high which makes reading an ardouos task. Depending on the book, and the setting I'm reading in, I'll be able to read without my mind wandering all over the place. I read large parts of Inherent Vice, my first Pynchon, stoned last summer; it was very nice reading outdoors in the sun, high and comfy.

As for writing when I'm high I've only done that a couple of times. Last time I did it was during a weed-induced panic where my mind was just running in circles and I had to get my thoughts out of there. It really helped having something productive to do, it did not solve the underlying problem but writing took my mind of my mind so to speak. I've never experienced anything like that before, atleast not in that magnitude, and I told myself to maybe step it down a little. Was back to smoking hashish after only two days.

My biggest problem with cannabis is that I get so gluttonous, and so indiscriminating in what I choose to eat. I end up eating food I don't particulary enjoy just to be able to stuff my face with something. Working on establishing better habits.

I really liked this book.

How about you guys?

Reddit

>I like smoking weed from time to time,
>permanent bad effects
Are you 16?

This guy gets it

>le weed is good le opis are le devil
>evil things should be legal anyways xD
such a brainwashed tool