Chan culture’s shitposting and crapflooding shares more with the Paris ’68 slogan “It is forbidden to forbid!”...

way, way off the mark to call us paleocons, though, but you couldn't really expect a marxist to open their minds to the idea of a rightism that comes from a 'new' or futuristic place.

a bit younger than that

I mean she isnt a post-structural """"cultural marxist"""", her tradition is more mid-20th century French or Italian than 2010 Tumblr

>way, way off the mark to call us paleocons, though
that's the point of the article genius

You'd imagine it was the point of the article, yeah, but then actually, it's in the fucking title. They couldn't brook the implications their own analyses turned up.

You'll be back, trust me

Is this image calling me a fedora horsefucker dumb frogposter because I go on Veeky Forums?

Veeky Forums is fully of a lot of people who are actually just closeted leftists.

Even people who believe edgy alt right shit are actually just being edgy, and if they look in theri hearts, most of them are just leftist cucks.

Terribley slanted article written by some pol-tard attempting to shine a decent light on the culture espoused with this shithole. Perfect for your average "intellectual" alt-right character (like those even exist). /pol/ can come back when they stop saying shit like "Cultural Marxism" or "Hegelian Dialectic", maybe they won't sound like such callow buffoons.

this is about the level i expect from Veeky Forums

How so?

If I want to watch my wife fuck an Arab who are you to look down your nose at me?

cucks > chantards

>you’re more likely to find these young men posting diaper porn, My Little Pony hate, and swastika-laden Pepe memes than listening to Wagner or reading Alain de Benoist.

What if I do all of those things?

...

>diaper porn
>listening to Wagner
I wonder if she knows how long Wagner's operas are?

>publish your magnum opus
>become the literal modern day Goethe
>biographers start flocking to you
>yfw they begin to uncover your history on Veeky Forums

Not really.

She's playing devil's advocate, which in reality is self-defeating.

Do we seriously expect a Marxist to care, for example, about "Christian morality" anymore than those who apparently "hate" it?

Are we supposed to take a Marxist seriously when they unironically use such moraline language as "degraded" and "degenerate" to describe and diagnose forum culture? Surely they should be happy with this increasingly licentious world, with its hedonistic libertines?

>The alt-right uses the now completely bankrupt language of counterculture and transgression when they talk about being “the new punk,” which should serve as a reminder of how empty those ideas have now become.

The thing is it's clearly not "bankrupt", particularly if it elicits this sort of response. Marxists are merely mad that they are no longer "the new punk" - or counterculture/etc. The West is socially liberal and economically neo-liberal. Marxists such as the author have now become "the establishment" - socially at least, which is probably enough.

>Terribley slanted article written by some pol-tard

It's in the fucking Jacobin, which is a New Statesman-tier leftie rag.

New Statesman is pseudo left at best

...

Any good HARD RIGHT magazines?

This.

alt-right is done for holy shit

leftypol is counter-culture now

No. Any good HARD RIGHT culture in general?
It's aim is to dumb down the bewildered herd which has the knock on effect of lowering the quality of cultural endeavors.

I really don't care if someone's a Marxist when the opposition is wehraboos and federalists

The Spectator is good at being further right than it seems.

Other than that, you'll have to rely on blogs, kid.

Sick takedown of sick takedown desu

The american conservative

Fascism is and has always been the true counterculuture, leftists are just posers. What's more punk than being an hypermasculine fash dudebro, praising Hitler, might makes right and openly advocating for genocide? Everything else is PC bullshit. Leftists want bigger government, mud people gays and trannies and more PC trigger warnings, that is, what we already have but more so.

>Fascism is and has always been the true counterculture
>Leftists want bigger government

Confirmed for fucking moron

I think that journalism about the culture of Veeky Forums is getting slowly better, and the writers are getting closer to the truth. But there's just so much history there to get through and even then to process it would be a monumental task.
I want a "Complete History of Veeky Forums".

Just wait for moot to publish his memoirs

"Lurk Moar: A Decade and a Bit as the Administrator of the Most Evil Site Online"

>Fascism doesn't require a powerful central government

The problem with leftism is that it forces the strong to bow down before the weak, while fascism allows natural superiors to rise to the top. It's not 'big government' but a natural organic order, in a way the most radically libertarian form of government

Put down Nietzsche and look in the mirror. I'm sure you'll find that you are no natural superior.

Stop LARPing as some tribalist strongman. You're posting on Veeky Forums. In a govt like you described, you'd be down there with the tumblrinas and otherkin. Don't delude yourself.

>in a way the most radically libertarian form of government

That's the most retarded thing I've ever had the misfortune of reading.

Don't worry, you'll never get that far :)

I work out, i'm swole, I have good anglosaxon genetics and an above average IQ. Maybe I won't be the fuhrer, but I have no problem obeying rightful authority, cause i'm not a snivelling leftist child. Basically I think the weakest members of society are really holding us down with their demands for more apologies and trigger warnings and stuff. They are never going to be satisfied. What if instead of mollycoddling them, parading them around for 'diversity' points and extending their suffering we just gave them a third option? Assisted Suicide. It's humane, painless and completely voluntary. They don't have to take the big leap till they are ready. If you think about it it's really the most humane, the most rational and merciful option.

Marxism is nowhere near the establishment, socially or otherwise.

I don't think he understood what he'd created. He endorsed tripfags, for example, and while he liked the edgy humour, I think he much more wanted it to be an open space for nerds and outsiders, not the thing it is now, coordinated around a kind of central party that is /pol/, the West's most rightwing force for change since ~the 60s. He wouldn't be able to explain how the community full of queers and twelve year olds and marginalised nerds speaking their thoughts freely turned into a quasi-neo nazi hub central to 21st century politics.

Talk about 10 years late to the party. All this attention this site gets is annoying. It was annoying back then when we are portrayed as evil anarchic loli watching hax0rz and its annoying now when we are portrayed as evil fascist ponyfucking neckbeards. This article is banal.

Magazines are for psoodz.

Sure you are, sweetie.

This is your brain on edge.

The Left has completely hijacked society as far as culture/morality is concerned.

Sure, they didn't kill capitalism, but they take what they can get.

>You're posting on Veeky Forums
Tbh Veeky Forums stopped matching its stereotype ages ago. Most of the people I know who post on it are likeable white dudes with normal social lives. In fact the only real consistency is they tend to be brighter than most, and quicker with jokes.

I literally see more SJW activity from the right, which makes perfect sense given they are so "individual"

And what does that have to do with Marxism? Unless you're retarded enough to believe anything to the left of Reagan is Marxism, which you probably are.

American right-wingers are the true social justice warriors. Equality fags can't even compete with their fixation on how society should be.

Don't play dumb. There's obviously a social/cultural element of Marxism that involves the subversion of traditions/norms/etc.

>He's never been on a college campus

Jordan Peterson got popular for a reason.

It makes sense. I've never met any gays or transgenders irl, but from what I can tell from my Veeky Forums experience, these people are not happy and they will never be. What if instead of tormenting them, forcing them to assimilate to a society in which they will never belong, we just gave them the chance to have a peaceful exit?

>when Fascism is the strongest way to govern but you've lost every war you've ever fought

Would you mind explaining the reason for his popularity?

>from what I can tell from my Veeky Forums experience
spooked

Like Milo/etc, he exposed the politically correct lunacy that exists within insulated university/college campuses. In Peterson's case, by extension, he also exposed the aforementioned lunacy with respect to Canada in general - namely in shining a light upon a proposed law that would criminalize the act of not referring to trans people by their preferred pronouns.

Most of the socially progressive stances the left defends are firmly rooted on classical liberal principles, from gender rights to drugs or sexuality. Don't delude yourself into thinking your fighting marxism, you simply hate liberalism in its classical sense. Hell, most people within the alt-right and with a good grasp of its basic tenets acknowledge that.

>I've never met any gays or transgenders irl, but from what I can tell from my Veeky Forums experience

I couldn't make this shit up.

Thanks, I must admit I have no knowledge or interest in college campus politics.
Who are the other people you are thinking about when you write Milo/etc?

'pronouns'

lol fuck off with that malarkey, you're she or he and that is the extent of that

you have a dick or a pussy and identify with one of these qualities there is no fucking middleground

>classical liberal principles
>gender rights to drugs or sexuality.

1) You're wrong.

2) Even if you weren't, I still wouldn't disagree. Classical liberalism is just as bad.

>anglo
stopped right there

>maximising and protecting individual freedoms is somehow not the basic principle of liberalism
ok

>Classical liberalism is just as bad.
I expected as much.

Yeah you preach to that choir. Go get em tiger

Nah, I was there when he deleted /r9k/ and /pol/ for awhile. He eventually wrote a post I read on his blog that he linked to on the top of the page explaining that his personal view was that deleting /pol/ was a decision that didn't respect the users.
I think it really took to the right counterculture during the obama years, and I'm still waiting for lefties to gain traction but it hasn't happened. /pol/ to me is simply a place where people believe they can actually discuss their beliefs in a culture where it's become perceived as 'wrong' to not hold the newest, most accepting views on diversity and 'immigration'.
I don't think it's a coincidence that they have joe rogan/alex jones threads on there. The youth of today is drifting towards these edutainment jocks that remind them of their early days with Jon Stewart and Colbert. We're watching a generation of malcontented liberals age.
There's proof of this in the latest election numbers, the democrat turnout was higher but Trump still won by converting those districts. The mainline complaint of /pol/ has always been the jews/globalists, and we can see on /pol/ today a counterculture against this 'establishment globalism', environmentalism, government supported illegal immigration, and racial/diversity programs.
It's the new face of the common people to me, who are letting out steam on /pol/ because they feel so incredibly ineffectively in modern society.
I think that people who try to interpret this is older terms like 'marxism' and 'socialism' are missing the bigger points of the day, which is global interests versus national/personal interests, and that has never been out of the conversation as long as I've been reading /pol/. Otherwise, how could there have been such a high tide of support for a canidate like Sanders?
My conclusion being, I don't think we have politics anymore. It's more of a debate over who gets more of the government programs or more of the taxes, and the /pol/ type seems to believe that somehow if the mythical jew is rooted out of society that all their problems disappear and we have some sort of glory era of the past return or some nonsense like that.
Both of them are proving themselves wrong in different ways. Nationalists won't be able to do away with the growing corporate networks, and Globalists won't be able to rid themselves of the rabid common man underclass. This is simply the new state of things for humanity, and I think we're going to see it more and more in the future as the arguments on both sides of any issue become further removed from any basis in reality and we just have the "I feel this so give me that".
It's going that way on the right as well as the left, so I want to make sure that people keep in mind that as the old supposedly evil repubilican guard falls that we'll have no one left to support but a bunch of democrats hiding under the banner of nationalism.

>alex jones
he's been a Veeky Forums staple for years
even before people moved on from Colbert/Stewart

that angela nagle girl is pretty good

too many alt-right thinkpieces give way to hysterics about nazis, or if they're more nuanced "misogynistic nazis", they feel as they're written more for the author's sake than anything else

angela's writings on Veeky Forums culture feel like legit journalism, it's interesting to read a left wing perspective on this stuff that isn't eye-roll inducing party-line-following nothing as per usual

moot was in a strange position once the retroactively-deemed altright began to consolidate on Veeky Forums. He was clearly uncomfortable with what /new/ slash /pol/ represented, but at the same time doing anything about that conflicted with the site's 'anything goes' ethos. When it was all said and done he chose to maintain that ethos, but it was at the expense of his connection to the community he created. Kind of tragic, really.

At least we might get a solid biopic out of it.

Is Alain de Benoist what leftists think an "intellectual right-winger" looks like?

>i'm swole

my sides.

>not unlike
dropped

I'm on Jordan Peterson's campus. The reaction is overblown and repetitive.

>The alt-right mourns European culture’s decline but has itself created the most degraded and degenerate forms of culture the West has ever seen in its own fetid forums.
Veeky Forums existed before the alt-right though

>2017
>not being a weak nietzschean intellectually backing your own destruction

>At least we might get a solid biopic out of it.
>tfw imagine A-list Hollywood actors playing teenage weebs and fyad neckbeards in an oscar bait biopic with swelling dramatic music and all that jazz

>I'm on Jordan Peterson's campus.

See: pic related.

>The reaction is overblown and repetitive.

Sorry, but SJWs are one nut to which you take a sledge hammer.

Here's the pic.

And how likely are you to come across the browsing habits of extroverted cool guys compared to isolated hikkis?

It would certainly be an interesting challenge for a filmmaker to try to depict online interaction. Have any films attempted this yet? Excluding cyberpunk-esque works that show digital interaction as a virtual reality realm.

>you’re more likely to find these young men posting diaper porn, My Little Pony hate, and swastika-laden Pepe memes
Why do these idiot outsiders conflate every poster and board together? They never seem to realize that the people posting on /pol/ aren't necessarily the same who are posting on /a/ or /b/ or elsewhere. It's like everyone must partake in every single interest discussed in the entire site.

yet another article by retards who don't understand this site at all, despite apparently being convinced of its great importance

>expecting journalists to not be subhuman

> When liberals are no longer in power, the philosophical irreconcilability between its paleo-conservatism, which aims for a return to traditional marriage while disapproving of porn and promiscuity, and the amoral libertine Internet culture from which all the real energy has emerged, will soon begin to show.
an idiotic point on which the entire article is centered. do these people seriously believe every man was a saintly celibate in Victorian Britain? it doesn't take particularly rigorous personal probity to be in favour of traditional forms of marriage, nor was Veeky Forums's "amoral libertinism" ever an ideological disposition. it was apathy directed towards social conventions which didn't benefit these people, just like it's self-interest that makes them favour anti-feminism and right-wing politics now

I see your point but let's be honest, /pol/ generates more traffic in an hour than two thirds of the other boards put together over an entire day. And the spill to the rest of the site is obvious, just take a look at /v/ or /tv/

tl;dr, dumb journo still doesn't understand internet meme site despite trying her hardest, does her best to convince herself and her readers that "t-this reaction against our ideology can't possibly last, guys, it's contradictory"

>despite trying her hardest
i really really doubt it

maybe trying her hardest for an hour or so, but I doubt she would even recognize something like the costanza meme even only through knowyourmeme

>/pol/ generates more traffic in an hour than two thirds of the other boards put together
that doesn't contradict my point

the big boards get most of the site's traffic, it's disingenuous to claim every Veeky Forums poster jacks off to porn of that pony show

Journalists are dumber than highschoolers.

Wouldn't this board's vehement obsession with Nietzsche and Schopenhauer also be direct influence from people who also frequent /pol/ ?

Most people find Philosophers to be phony and the few others are attracted to a stumbling comic like Diogenes only because he seems witty or the High school go to Philosophers like Plato or something as boring as Freud.

Even if /pol/ almost never directly talk about Nietzsche they would definetly pick him up because they certainly would agree with much he has to say.

>Not explaining your motivations.
>Expecting others to UNDERSTAND your motivations.
>Insisting that Misunderstanding and Cruelty are necessary.
>Getting upset when people misunderstand that.

Whacky!