How come frogtwitter follows all these obscure (f.e...

How come frogtwitter follows all these obscure (f.e.) Dark Enlightenment philosophers with their extremely refined meta-metaphysics and mythopoeic ability, yet have these dumbass opinions, like how any sexual content is degeneracy?

They're a bunch of disillusioned ex trump supporters

they retweet the stuff they agree with and ignore the stuff they don't. there's also probably a lot they simply don't understand.

Because the DE is intellectual masturbation in a vain attempt to appear smart and also gain spiritual revenge on the popular chads they hated/envied in high school.

I actually would like to read a /r9k/ tier Dark Enlightenment book. That'd be really a massage to my brain.
Any such thing?

because the activity of viewing sexual content on the internet disregards the consent or nonconsent of the subject, and is ultimately degrading to the viewer you fuckin ghetto jackass

What positive function does viewing sexual content on the internet or television serve in your life? What undesirable functions might it serve?

Me too. Some kind of cyberpunk opus, mixed in with political philosophy. Would be sort of like Ayn Rand, I guess, but updated for the 21C. Also maybe with some cosmic horror.

It's not like it's a terrible pitch. As long as you kept the politics muted and didn't include a big speech or making obvious references. Also I don't think anyone from the DE community could write it, they wouldn't be able to do it impartially.

Bunch of babble.
It doesn't.
These fuckers would think a pair of titties in a temple are a sign of a degenerate/primitive culture, while rationalizing penis processions in Japan.

They're like SJW's: a bunch of hysterical 21st century Victorians. Church ladies of their own kind. Bitter repressed and resentful fanatics. Not that it's anything new. The West has always suffered from these basket cases that might be the product of the culture. Not 100% what the cause is of them, but they're annoying

Sex, for the first time in millennia, finally became normal again. Now of course some wanna revert the process because they're still a bunch of insecure weaklings that can only thrive when others are under their whim. Sex being the ultimate trophy in the game of control.

Go fight your moral crusade somewhere else. Hypocrits. I bet you gag on trap dick in the weekend.

Is your life so empty that you have to invent windmills to assault?

He's right desu

How do you account for the relatively new historical phenomenon of people martyring themselves to their "Self"? I have to agree with , porn and digital cultures have created a generation of humans that can't tell the physical difference between fantasy and reality (can't tell a subject from an object).

I'm not saying we should get rid of porn or digital technology. I do think people would be better off knowing how to use these things in a way that wouldn't cook their brainpans.

I genuinely don't understand Nick Land and this whole NRx/DE thing. Is there like a primer on it all, writen by someone not on the inside?

I find it mildly intriguing, the kind of tone and mood of it all, but then I realize it somehow appeals to the pepe crowd and I am confused.

Like, I could paste any Nick Land tweet into a Baudrillard book and it wouldn't seem out of place. So whats the deal?

Not at all. I really enjoy the freedom I have in the modern world. I'd like to enjoy my freedom while I can, before 10year old looking deus vult alt righters and crazy nu male leftists on the fringes cause this whole culture to go down the drain in their spectrum infight.

The culture isn't 'degenerate' or 'problematic'. It's you pieces of weak shit who can't handle total freedom.
You can handle gun freedom. Or you can handle freedom of movement. Doesn't matter which. You'll fight for that. But apparantly you can't handle total freedom.
I can. And I'm enjoying it. And I won't let you Münster tier nutcases take it away from the people who are in charge of themselves.

>the relatively new historical phenomenon of people martyring themselves to their "Self"?
You'll have to be more specific

Realizing that 'sexual content' as you put it is degeneracy is not even a cognitive feat, it's literally something a fucking child could understand if our minds weren't all bloated with obscene Kali Yuga sludge.

You're just that fucking retarded, so deep in the Kool-Aid, that this most basic of human understandings is beyond you, and this is the only point of theirs you can criticize because it's the only thing that approaches your grasp, since it's fit for a child to understand and you can approach but not reach the intelligence of a child. T them it's not even a 'stance' they take, but something natural and assumed like the ability to walk. Your legs are just fucking broken, so you marvel at it.

>Kali Yuga sludge

Go back to Veeky Forums and admire some male abs, you fucking closeted fag.

>muh golden age of androgynous eunuch Thuleans committed to the STEM god tier field

Aight.

I mean, people going on murder sprees to the sole end of suicide is a tendency that is increasing. I see it as the physical form of the psychological problem, diffuse mental illness in the form of mild schizophrenia: the inability to tell an object from a subject.

For the mass shooter, this delusion takes the form of the inability to distinguish the representation of their selves ("how I am seen by others," what in capitalism has become the holy "I") from their selves. My self becomes "Me," and I serve "Me" as I would serve "God" or "Allah." My supposition is that the fundamental contradiction of a self being alienated from itself (not a new idea, not really my supposition either, it has been around for decades) becomes more intense and obvious through the use of porn, since subjects are in the strict physical sense degraded into objects.

Again, I watch porn, the point is to know that using it excessively causes psychological damage.

I think my attraction to Nick Land's writing is that he seems to describe the world accurately, but I just disagree that any of this is a bad thing.

I also don't understand the fascnitation with the pre-modern world, as if it was something redeemable, or even really that different from where we are today.

Haven't we always been on the verge of cataclysm, but we never go all the way? Catholics thought the year 1000 would mark the end of the world. When nothing happened, they built new churches to celebrate.

The aztecs had pyramids, we have highways, the blood still flows.

>I have a privileged access to The Truth, society doesn't agree with me only because they're brainwashed!!!

Get back to me when you've given up the Marxist false consciousness meme, kid.

>total freedom

Agreed, I also enjoy the multitude of Sponsored Content that we now have available to us.

>everyone's treating themselves with disrespect so I might as well join them
Have some pride bro. Nothing androgynous about getting your sexual thrills from actual intercourse or the memory of and lust for it, btw.

>total freedom
You mean death?

>I mean, people going on murder sprees to the sole end of suicide is a tendency that is increasing.
Well, I don't think that's a development of a psychological nature (more people going schizo under late capitalism) but one of a societal nature, that in pre-modern times extended kinship networks would embed schizos and prevent them from spinning out of control (e.g. research suggests there are less black shooters because black americans have more social cohesion than whites) . Don't see how porn comes into the picture.

>who can't handle total freedom.

word

gimme dat gimme dat fentanyl-laced shit, I want to get nodded so hard I;m a breath beat away from a fatal overdose, like I wanna get rekt upped

>Again, I watch porn, the point is to know that using it excessively causes psychological damage.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>dude like all things in moderation it's okay if u rape a liil just don go overboard xP ;D

As I said, porn comes into the picture since it is a culmination of the subject-object confusion at the heart of schizophrenia.

I don't know about the kinship network thing. Lots of black people shoot and get shot, it just seems they're less likely to explicitly hold suicide as an end goal. Usually, they don't know what exactly they're rebelling against so long as they rebel, which is in fact more psychologically healthy since it's not a final reification of Self as Other.

I never said "all things in moderation." I said, "porn in moderation." What you have done is the definition of "strawman." And I'm speaking only myself, I have noticed anecdotally that excessive porn consumption tends to impair my ability to have relationships. I have (also anecdotally) observed this porn-obsession tendency in other males of my approximate age.

Are you developmentally retarded? Like, have you been checked for a mental disability?

>nothin wrong with porn bro just don't overdo it xP
>ur not a prude r u
>consuming media that was created for me to consume and stimulating my own genitals alone in a dark room is the height of human freedom
>pleasure should be isolated and removed from human attachment dude, don't be a fuckin prude lmao

What do you suggest then, fag?
Have the state ban porn like fucking Iran?

>the subject-object confusion at the heart of schizophrenia.
That's a logical error though, to say because excessive porn consumption may be somewhat alike one symptom of schizophrenia that it may contribute the illness. That's confusing cause and effect.

>I don't know about the kinship network thing. Lots of black people shoot and get shot, it just seems they're less likely to explicitly hold suicide as an end goal.
We're talking about school shooters and the like, not regular violence.

>disapproving of something and calling for its illegalization are identical
>the state is the only possible arbiter of disapproval of any kind

Imagine being this good of a goy

>total freedom
>kek

It is. The fact one can do that and not have, like Calvin's Geneva, have a religious police enter our house to see if we're not being sinful, that's a good thing to have.

I was asking for solutions. You obviously have none.
You were laughing at the user for saying "do porn in moderation then". But that wasn't enough for you. So I asked if you wanted to ban it then. But you don't.
So I guess you want the "culture" to change. Some sort of Church condemning it. Tough luck. Not gonna happen. Secularism is still going. We win. Haha.

Stop bitching, fuckface.

>we win ha ha,why not just celebrate living in a cultureless hellhole :D, who's really winning prudes and bigots? ;)
>brb jacking it to hentai

You're free to go to one of the more restrictive societies this world has to offer.
Why aren't you fucking leaving? We'll be having a great time without you undermining the free West with your Islam tier censorship crap.

>Islam tier censorship crap
>criticizing Islam

lmao that's islamophobia my western companion