How far has science been set back by stopping the Nazis?

How far has science been set back by stopping the Nazis?

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6,000,000 million years

Stopping the holocaust has surely had a net positive effect on science.

Remember the nazis would have killed einstein

Not too far back considering the U.S. allowed some of Nazi Germany scientists to mesh into their own country after the war.

A better question is how far back was science been set when Archimedes was murdered by a retarded chad-like Roman soldier when it was clear Archimedes was in the middle of another discovery?

A negative

Stopping the Nazis didn't set us back because we absorbed them after the fact. What hurt science was the invention of nuclear weaponry, which we used on Japan, to literally crush their honor. It bought us the lives of our soldiers, which would have been "needlessly" wasted in beating the shit our of them using industrial methods, but it triggered the wrong arms race. One sentimental decision to advance the end of a war by one president, changed history forever. If he'd known how other nations would react, he might have spent the lives of those soldiers and sent nuclear weaponry on a one-way trip into the dark oblivion of the permanently classified.

Are you fucking kidding? Do you know all the fucking Jews the Nazis killed? Do you know about all the insanely smart Hungarian and German jews that lived concentrated in more or less the same place? The fucking Nazis ruined it.
Fuck you, fuck the Nazis and fuck the commies too who completely ruined the intellectualism in China.

How about all the experiments the Nazis ran and documented, faggot?

You mean advanced? en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deutsche_Physik

Nuclear hate is a meme for retards. As horrific as nuclear bombs are, the bombings of Japan saved both American and Japanese lives compared to the alternative. Since then they haven't been used. The Cold War was a shitty time, but was more a diplomatic failure between the US and Russia. Nuclear weapon research also gave us nuclear power, which is significantly cleaner than fossil fuels, and one that could have eliminated air pollution from our power mix fifty years ago if it weren't for misguided, brainwashed by big-oil hippies like yourself.

literally zero scientific value from any of those

try again

real question.. howmuch science has lost progress due christians dark Ages.

The only scientific progress that is still valuable today taking place in Germany during WW2 was the development of jets and rockets. And we captured those scientists.

>saved both American and Japanese lives compared to the alternative
I'm not debating that. I'm looking at this from an intel angle; without demonstrating the power of nuclear weapons, America would have had a secret doomsday device that they chose not to use, and in seeing their military might continue to win out on a global scale, would have never needed to use. It would be a project that sat in a bunker, all the scientists that worked on it would go their separate ways, never understanding what they were building, and the entire nuclear arsenal, of two bombs, would never see the light of day. It did save lives, but it changed how we live and work and play. The true cost isn't the two cities that were decimated, the true cost was cultural. The true cost was the nuclear hate meme. The true cost was foreign military being completely outgunned to the point where the only way to have a national identity/ego anymore is to get into the nuclear race as fast as you can and make as many threats as possible. The intelligence race would have still happened anyway, but it would be an order of magnitude less prevalent in our culture. There would be no public knowledge of superweapons to justify and romanticize spies, and the CIA would be retasked to policing corporations instead. Tax law would have become a matter of reform sooner and continue to be a matter of public focus for a very long time. X-risks distract and nullify the will of the people, giving them nonce ideas about which they can debate to literally no end because their diplomatic overseers don't have the information science necessary to process the will of the people.

Oh wait I just read the rest of your post. You've already imaged a stereotype in your mind so I can't actually have this conversation without triggering an existential crisis in the part of your brain that processes character judgment and social interaction.

>Not too far back considering the U.S. allowed some of Nazi Germany scientists to mesh into their own country after the war.
Even though those scientists didn't offer a lot to the Americans, they were taken in by them to stop Russia getting hold of them. The Nazis were less advanced than the States but more advanced than the Soviets.

Physics?
None.
The allies proved they were faster.

Biology?
I would say rather the Nazi scientist, disgusting as this may sound, succeeded in all their necessary understandings.

Chemistry?
"Gas who?" again, no set backs.
Science progressed as fast as inhumanly possible.

>The Nazis were less advanced than the States but more advanced than the Soviets.
American education everyone.

You reek of pseudo-intellectualism. The creation of nuclear weaponry was a near inevitability and would have been developed by Russia and other countries regardless whether or not we used them on Japan.

>Even though those scientists didn't offer a lot to the Americans
Yeah, except for literally running your space program up to and including the moon landings.

That's fine. All his shit is wrong anyway.

I didn't say otherwise. But using one in a war made it a matter of public perception, and an open information field for anyone to pursue. If it had been kept in a bunker and never used, it would be independently researched in an organic manner by each nuclear-science capable nation on Earth. Rather than a cold war involving stockpiling absurd amounts of nukes for political reasons, it would have been a war of conspiracies and keeping the nuclear arsenal hidden. Obviously the events at the time were principled differently and there's no way Truman would have seen the long game of the intelligence war to come, so there's no other way it could have happened, but in terms of the hypothetical OP was asking us to consider, it was a major turning point for research budgeting.