Al/ck/ - Alcoholism & Withdrawal

sry non-american here, what's croc tails? Luckily I still have enough for the night, got used to the idiotic laws here...

the guy goes ill give you a whole box 48 count(brought the display and everything) for 20$ plus tax. gave a lot away but not enough. I cant have alcohol just lying around for obvious reasons.

South Aus.

Oh shit should have paid more attention to your previous post. How much is tax in US, or bétter yet, how much would you have to pay for a cheap bottle/can of beer, how much for the cheapest bottle of vodka (like a fifth, I think you call 0,7 mL)

I haven't drank in a few months. This is the point where I usually fuck up, and it's always like it sneaks up on me. I won't have any desire to drink and then BAM, I get the idea in my head and off I go. Seriously do not want to go through the DTs again though. Last time I shot the fucking TV because it was honking like a goose and had a seizure.

>31
>obese
>married with kids
>drink 8-10 beers per night
>every night
>got a 30pk on sunday
>gpt 8 left
>probably have to buy a 40 before I start
>juuuuust in case

Aah shit, that's astronomical in taxes, so I heard. And with your tabacco taxes...no place for me

tax came out to 1.75 for the case. for cheep beer I go for natty daddy which comes to 1.50 usually for a 25oz can. the pint of vodka usually dubra goes for 4.25 all the prices tax included not sure what the real percent the tax is since some stores just have different prices.

so fucking scared of getting dts like what are the warning signs? if any? Id rather ask someone who's been through it then read some shit online.

Ah ok, still a bit cheaper here, like 40 cts for a pint of cheap beer and 4.50 for 1 1/2 pints of vodka (aprox. in US money)

Yep.

>wake up every morning to pee blood out my ass
>start drinking soon after
>get violently drunk
>repeat

A couple days into withdrawals and no sleep, all the bad symptoms are multiplied.

>anxiety is so bad, you become convinced you are going to die.
>motor skills get thrown off and it's hard to walk and maintain balance
>intrusive thoughts that further fuck with your head
>hallucinations, maybe small whispers and bugs at first
>eventually turns into indescribable horrors
>eventually lose complete touch of reality (i.e. You may be at home, but you think you're at a hotel or something)

oooh shit how much where you drinking when this happened what was your usual

here's the paper on kindling i posted in last thread that someone asked about
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(yes you need the entire url)

>Sober for 7 hours now
>haven't drank anything with sugar in it for a year
>Suddenly craving for a pepsi soda
>Not even for alcohol

Your body isn't all that bad at sending you cravings for things it needs, maybe you should have some sugarized food/drink

Anywhere from a half gallon to a gallon of vodka per day. That's a lot of liquor for ANYONE, but for a reference point, I am a 5'6" 125lb manlet. When I drink, I am shitfaced every waking moment.

>stop drinking
>actually have money left in my account the day before payday

Shame I still want to kill myself

Decided to quit, when the nearby liquer store employees knew me and my kids names. They even started carrying Pabst in a bottle and Mickey's 40 oz. Just because I asked about them.

>laid off last year
>quit smoking weed to pass drug test for a new job
>start drinking again instead
>several months pass, drinking every single day
>get new job a week ago
>smoke to celebrate, no more drinking
>better job called today
>back to drinking until i can pass drug test again

You ungrateful dick, they order product just for you because you asked, and now you won't even buy it.

Being sober makes me desperate to drink. Drinking makes me desperate to be sober.
If weed isn't legalised in this shithole soon I may move house.

I know that feel, bro. I live in a town of 18k and all 4 liquor stores here are on a first name basis with me.

literally can't go without drinking wine, if i do i puke and have shakes all day. what can i do?

taper down. reduce the amount you drink daily until you're at 0

>ran out of booze one night
>decided to drink methylated spirits
>drank half of it was 95% ethynol
>didn't go blind

It's laced with some pretty heavy poisons precisely so alcks don't drink it. Evil fuckers, man. Don't do that shit again even if you are running screaming through the fiery depths of hell being chased by 20ft rapedemons and have a trillion fire ants flowing over every inch of your skin. Being insane is better than being dead.

I usually feel relieved when I accidentally let that happen

been drinking more or less every night since i was 19, i'm 25 now. tried many many times to drink less/quit, always failed. lasted a little over a month in the past 6 years. on day 2 now and i'm determined to stay sober for the rest of my life. i can relate to a lot of the posts in this thread. feels good.

this morning i woke up an hour before the bottleo opened and 1 hour has never felt longer

i feel for u nsw bro

there are so many different reasons people start up again. almost an infinite amount it seems like. good luck, seriously. it can be done.

>start new job
>quit drinking for awhile
>hear one of your favorite drunk songs on the radio at work one day
>here we go again

Isn't it weird how little things can trigger you into drinking again?

And I mean "triggering" in the psychiatric sense, not the tumblr/pol sense

Sounds like fucking hell. I live in Sydney (New Beiing) and it's a downright challenge to obtain alcohol after 10pm, and a lot of bottle'o's close well before 8pm at night. Also beer is ridiculously expensive, XXXX (the shittiest, most watered down beer in existence) is about the same price as high end european beer i every other country in the world.

it's ridiculous, i literally started salivating and planned a trip to the liquor store after i heard it

>5.4 europoor bottles a day

jesus christ lad

fuck me for me its either when im playing a jrpg or watching a good anime or show I just go fuck it time to get cocked and do this otherwise when im sober I wont play anything or watch anything

Do you lads change any other behavior than the actual drinking when trying to quit/moderate?

I'm trying to become an early riser rather than sit around in the night time because there is less temptation to drink in the morning for me.

Yeah, I let myself eat better tasting crapfoods as a cheap reward. And smoke cigs. It's not the same as being intoxicated but it does take the edge off. Gotta find something.

post tunes
you fucking degenerates

second night sober in two years.
I just feel incredibly bored and lonely.
I feel too old for solitary activities at 26
I just feel like I should be with someone now
but if I was ever with someone I wouldn't have drank so much.to forget being so alone in the first place.
Fuck I just can't fall asleep and I feel childish for being sober.

rose at dawn and put on that old roots senpai

youtube.com/watch?v=4R8XR3WCwvI

youtube.com/watch?v=wujw-FH2Itw

Idk user. It's hard being sober. I'm 29 and tonight's my second night being sober too. Drinking since I was 22. I often wonder if it ever gets better, but it feels as if drinking is as good as it gets. But every trouble and injury and heartbreak that I've gone through, I know it was because of the drink. I want to stop and I have to stop. If I'm going to take my life, it's going to be on my terms and with a clear head. I'm done with letting the bottle dictate my actions. I'm tired of being weak. I have no one in my life, but if I'm going to be a man I'm going to do it for me. And the next time I fail it'll be because of me and not the 5th I drank. That's my goal for now.

Good luck to us both.

I started to talk to myself when alone... kinda like having Tourette's.

INEBRIATED COOKING, SIMPLE RECIPES FOR SIMPLE MINDS. WHAT'S YOUR GO TO?
I'LL START. TOMATO ON TOAST

holy fuck i do that already

pbj instead of bread I use two eggo waffles from the toaster shits tasty as fuck for something savory i just usually make a cold cut sandwich or heat up a can of raviolis not really cooking but does its job, what ingredients you got

croctail guy here back on the grind currently have a cup of water a frozen drink and warm drink im rotating around no ice for few hours used it all may God have mercy on my soul

like
fucking whatever is laying in the fridge man

I did that in the beginning, just allow myself every indulgence and pamper myself as compensation for the boozelessness.

Quitting is easier when you're nice to yourself desu.

I make this a lot, doesn't get much simpler:

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spaghetti_aglio_e_olio

>lumber to the gas station 3 minutes from my apartment
>too dizzy to see so I grab at one of the pre-made chicken sandwiches
>grunt and hand my card to the cashier
>eat it in the parking lost and then lumber back home

>be 21
>about to be 22(september)
>thinking of having a glass of whiskey a night
>kinda like a hobby so my fat ass doesnt over eat
>also wanna be drunk bc aw yeah

Is this how addiction starts?

Do you guys believe in the alcoholism gene meme?

How did you guys get addicted?

Im curious, i dont wanna end up addicted,

don't get addicted
it's that simple

>tfw on the last beer you're allowing yourself for the night
>still going to wake up later, and go to work later, than you want to

I hate myself in the mornings for going in late, but at least I don't want to kill myself every night over everything else.

>the parking lost
existential as fuck

>tfw nobody around here has Mickeys in a 40

I saw that up in Iowa, of all places, when I was there for a conference. It was awesome. It still just doesn't quite compare to the comfiness of the grenade bottles with the riddles under the cap. I was planning to make a beer pong table with the caps arranged out under plexiglass a couple years ago. I gave up on that when all my friends left our city to pursue their careers, and I no longer have a real party crew, besides assholes I don't actually like.

[spoiler]killme[/spoiler]

for me it was parties and stuff, at first i never even liked it but I noticed everyone loved me as a drunk and when i was sobre they would ask me what was wrong with me. this was in highschool (34 wiz neet) kept going on for a while got on heroin with a buddy of mine and we spent like a whole 3 years just snorting dozing off playing vid games. after that my friend went crazy addict and i just went back to booze. its not a typical story but its mine. i mean the hardest part is knowing for like 3 bucks I can have a blast even tho im fucking up.

This happens with literally any song I like and listen to that mentions any sort of alcohol.

For me, I was only drinking on weekends, and only when I was at parties, when I was underaged. And I rarely went to parties. Then, I started going out with friends more, and it was every weekend night. Then, I would get some friends to buy me fifths or thirty packs here and there, and I'd get drunk a couple nights a week. Then I stopped that out of fear, but then I turned 21, and started drinking a couple beers every night. It snowballs quick.

lads my buddy's girlfriend of 5 years was killed by a 4 time repeat offender drunk driver. What can I do to help him should I keep him off the sauce

>How did you guys get addicted?

>like to drink for its own sake, both taste and effect
>also like how it helps me want to and be able to be social
>feels good
>want to feel good a lot
>start to depend on it for any and all voluntary socialising
>drink a lot
>drink every day
>start earlier in the day when possible because drinking is nice
>sort of start to drink earlier in the day because it helps do away with bad effects of the night before as well
>the loop between the last drink before bed and the first drink the next day gets tighter and tighter
>at some point you have your first drink of the day before the last booze of the day is out of your system
>body starts to get used to perpetually have alcohol in it and learns to cope with this
>basically tries to set itself up to function normally even though the cunt of a conscious mind sabotages this with near constant intake of depressants
>body hates you for it but learns to cope since it's your poor servant and always tries to make due with whatever abuse you throw at it
>coping under pressure has become the new normal now
>you are now physically dependant on this new status quo to function
>removing the depressant throws everything off balance, kind of like one team in a tug of war suddenly releasing the rope
>go into withdrawal whenever you cease constant depressant in take
>live your life miserably, sick and enslaved and in constant anxiety about the supply of the external substance you can now not go without for more than a few hours
>from here on out you can either taper and readjust to sobriety/moderation slowly or escalate into misery beyond your imagination

Tonight is 2nd night for me too. 31. Depending on where you are in your alcism, you may need to taper. Elsewise, good lord, be prepared for an awful ride.

I'm using some shit 6% sangria. The point of tapering is to keep the fits and shakes at bay, allowing your body to comfortably adjust to the lack of alcohol.

Everyone in my family besides my mom+dad are alcoholics. Cousins/aunts/uncles/grandparents before they died. All alcoholics. Our family parties are just get togethers where everyone gets wasted . I grew up with my uncle who is only 5 years older than I am. He used to throw lan parties every weekend and give me alcohol from when I was around 14 years old. He never bought it for me or encouraged it but would give me a few beers on weekends. I guess that is where it began.

Shows and films, too. Booze is such a part of the herd mentality and culture. I firmly believe alcs in / working on recovery really spot the clutches it has within culture.

>watching mad men when trying to be sober and cigarette free

wew lad

For some reason, i self regulate on everything except food and DMT. Alcohol, weed, speed, opiates, etc, are only desirable insofar as they are novel, and i just stop using them when they get too 'normal' to me.

But food, i will just eat and eat. And get fat. And lazy and depressed. Unless i have DMT, in the form of 0-acetylpsilocin. As long as i maintain a blood saturation of DMT, i stay thin and healthy with a socially life and responsibilities.but i've come to accept the fact that i am permanently addicted to DMT and will require about a tenth of a gram of psilacetin a day for the rest of my life.

This costs me six to ten dollars a day, but thats not too bad, if thats that it takes to be a good person. I just wish i could have a prescription and healthcare to pay for it like a normal person.

I do 'trip' at first when getting back into DMT but after acclimating the DMT stops making you trip but continues to have a sustainable effect of calmness and deliberation. This is suspect is physiological in action, less like being on a 'drug' and more like being on a blood pressure medication. You don't develop a tolerance to cholesterol meds, and similarly once you can tolerate DMTs psychological effect it just acts as a medicine in very obscure ways. It makes you take life very seriously. You feel real meaning and consequence in the things you do.

king of the hill is the only show i can enjoy at night when sober, even with alamo beer being there in every episode

it's the GOAT, but the cigarette episode in season one makes me smoke every time i see it

>my life the post

you can't be hungover if you're still drunk from last night. right user?

too bad I work in a bar. I hope to die soon

Very interesting. Does the daily dose actually influence your hunger/desire or does it influence the way you cope with it and impulse control?

Also, what happens to your social life and responsibility without it?

Being close to the booze might be hard when trying to get sober but doesn't seeing the pathetic drunks help?

Or is it a hip bar without alcie regulars?

Always wanted to dry DMT. Never knew how to get it. I can't even find a pot dealer where I live.

lol go in drunk no fear! but it is like psychs and will actually kill the addiction unless you go back

Thanks senpai

I'm not worried about trying it, I just have no idea where to even get it. I'm a shut in neet with no friends

online innit

I have no one to teach me how to do it. All the threads I see on buying psychs online seem like honeypots. I guess this is why I'm an alkie. I can just go buy it from the store with no worries or hassle.

stomach hurts. shiting blood. pretty sure im dying peace out bros

Constantly telling myself "I'm not as bad as them" as I walk over and pour my 6th Jameson shot in 3 hrs

fucking hell if i could only stop drinking and smoking, my body is at the "fucking please stop" but my mind is at the "go harder" level

>6 shots in 3 hours

wew lad. try 6 shots in 30 mins and you might have a place here

>
shots in 3 hours
>wew lad. try 6 shots in 30 mins and you might have a place here
Fr. Every time I drink, i go hard and fast. I go for higher proofs and percentages for thus reason.

here's what happened to me with dts
>drinking atleast a fifth of vodka a day for 6-8 months, not drinking much water
>eating an actual meal about once every 3 days, so pretty much not at all
>try to stop several times, fail
>decide to go cold turkey, but have pint of vodka for backup
>a day and a half in, withdrawals have become unbearable
>having a panic attack while finally breaking and deciding i must drink
>hands have cramped up, but somehow manage to grasp bottle with eagle claw hand, kek
>shaking badly, spill it all over my shirt, but after i get first few drinks in, feel better
>drink rest of bottle, and decide to try to sleep
>sleep for 2 hours, wake up with awful nightmares
>still feel fine
>decide i am in the clear and browse internet for a bit
>everything seems fine, but suddenly heart starts beating through the roof with absolutely no warning
>begin pacing around room, grab keys to get in car to get bottle, but feel as if i'm having an fucking heart attack
>last thing i remember before falling down is looking in the mirror and seeing myself looking extremely pale with sweat beads dripping down my face
i think now, i may have had a seizure, and this is what caused me to fall
>when i come out of "seizure" all limbs are locked
>begin to hallucinate heavily, try to get up but can't
>still feel as if i am in control, but that fades

but ya i can explain the hallucinations and what exactly happened in another post if you are still there and concerned, user

>stop drinking for a few days
>sudden appetite
>eat ridiculous shit because cravings
>constipated for 2 days
>finally take a shit
>ripped my asshole wide open
>still can't walk without hurting

is this what women feel when i fuck them in the ass? cause i might stop

jk i won't

I just got out of the hospital two days ago. I was trying to taper and it didn't go as planned and I wound up outside passed out on the front lawn and the neighbors called an ambulance. I had a torn esophagus from puking and was shitting blood in my pants. I had been drinking unknown amounts of vodka every day since February (no job). I am home now and debating what to do.

these posts make me feel not as bad... but fuck man time to get that detox

The only thing left to do is all you can do.