My girlfriend came home from work tonight...

this is generally the alt right position. if that's what you're leaning into.

hope she's cool with being a second class citizen. if not, punch her in the face so she gets an idea of her future.

What she is referring to is "white feminism". She needs to get involved with the more Commie strands of it.

>"feminism has been co-opted by people who just wear it as badge"
>"Hey, what political movement should I attach to my personality and wear like a badge next?"

Or merely pointing out where she would be without feminism. Renouncing feminism because of contemporary co-optation is like renouncing Darwinism because we are currently finding a lot of species whose evolution was convergent.

unironically this.

>everyone must be a member of this ideology because it's the One Truth

How about you go fuck yourself?

>??? ???
she's a woman.

women are an ideology

lmao
women, not even once

OP here. It was more like "What should I discover about next," rather than what can I attach myself to, as in the historical sense, as in specifically using the words "learn about"

Your misogyny is showing.

>your misogyny is showing
>anyone that isn't a proud male feminist like me is an EVIL MISOGYNIST
kill yourself braindead cuck.

calm your udders user

What she's actually saying is

>"now that even my grandma call herself a feminist I don't find it cool or rebellious anymore. what other edgy ideology can I attach myself to and constantly shove in other people's faces?"

>anyone that isn't an insecure virgin autist is le numale feminist cuck

>people
I wonder why you neglected to include key points of her argument

this

Literally tell her to start with the greeks. Plato's 5 dialogues.

I'm in law school right now and I realized that I have spent more time studying the law then I have any of the radical political ideology I casually talk about. Can I really explain Anarcho-syndicalism in a detailed manner or am I just a poser? On the realist level I can talk about and address issues of local politics and reasons why or why not to choose city council members, but can I truely articulate a more broad line of reasoning and motivation to cause other people to critically think about the world around them?

I do not think I can. So I have been learning about learning, as well as starting with Plato. I think she needs to take a step back before diving back into the shouting void.

Lmao this

It's not cool or rebellious when people can buy 'this is what a feminist looks like' t-shirts made in offshore sweatshops. Capitalist hierarchism and emancipatory feminism kind of cancel each other out.

Considering she's a shy misanthrope that barely socialises, is adverse to conflict, and barely uses social media, I don't think your analysis holds up. I'm pretty sure I'm like the only person she even talks to about feminism.

So far these are the two best suggestions. Thanks guys. She'll be a sweet little fascist piece of cookware in no time.

How about she concentrates on being a good wife and mother instead?

this statement is derogatory towards women.

DELET THIS

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>is adverse to conflict

Sound's like she needs some public speaking and introductory interpersonal communication books. Teach her how to be a person first, then she will find out why she needs to be a radical.

>Literally tell her to start with the greeks. Plato's 5 dialogues

Did you forget that we're talking about a woman here?

>tell HER to START WITH THE GREEKS
>women
>philosophy

HAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAH.

>a slight biological difference stops a person from participating in philosophy

Oh Socrates, you are so wise!

Name one (1) notable female philosopher.

>Considering she's a shy misanthrope that barely socialises
that just proves user's point

notable*

This is a bad example both because a simple google search answers your question and also because it's simply attaching a descriptor to philosopher. Why would one ask for the best blind, black, or Mongolian philosopher? There is no reason to need an arbitrary attach descriptors like that.

hannah arendt

Veeky Forums is especially retarded tonight.

Your gf sounds pretty based user however the fact that you couldn't recommend her any lit following her revelation proves she's already surpassed you.

Probably sucking off some ambiguously brown marxist chad as we speak.

Hypatia of Alexandria

For helping your girlfriend:

Well, my girlfriend is a bit younger than me, so she sort of looks up to me as her intellectual mentor a little bit. I give off the vibe like:

>oh if only I'd had someone like me when I was your age for suggestions and guidance.

But I actually have no idea. So I just ask Veeky Forums, not outright, but I ask for suggestions for myself and then give them to her. She thinks I'm really smart.

But before I did that, I had a more elaborate system: I would come to Veeky Forums, go to the catalogue, and count 15 topics in. And from there I would go back until I reached a topic of the type: "Recommend me.." or "Where should I start with..." and I would then open that thread, and then I would take the third serious suggestion and give it to her.

That is how the first philosophy book my girlfriend read came to be Martin Heidegger's "Being and Time" and the second philosopher she read, straight after, was Confucius.

She then moved on to Stirner.

Maybe you should try something like that.

Why does she need to join some political movement? She seems autistic. It's way better to be noncommittal so you can mock ideologues while being evasive

Elizabeth Anscombe

Get fucked.

Not notable
Not notable, none of her works survived and she was merely an educator and not a philosopher
Not notable

>falling for the woman meme
woman have no beliefs, they will do anything they can for attention

Kys yourself, normie psued

the leading thinker in totalitarian studies is not notable? okay nerd.

Susanne Langers

QED

The fuck does 'notable' mean to you fussypants?

>starting with Heidegger
I feel sorry for her

>WAAH FUCK NAZIS AND SHIT
woah...
Not notable, only known because she's a woman
I mean someone who truly brought something innovative to philosophy. The Kants and Nietzsches.

Simone de Beauvoir

>feminism "has been co-opted by capitalist opportunists like beyonce and [some other celebrity] and media outlets and others" who "wear feminism like a badge," and "to many it's just an accessory or a talking point wrapped up in identity politics."

How does this devalue the philosophy behind feminism though?
Did your girlfriend seriously renounce her way of viewing the world because too many people bought into it- because it got too popular?
Or does she actually believe that if people exploit a philosophy, the philosophy itself literally stops being worthwhile?
Because if that's how it is I'd recommend you to punch your gf in the ovaries and forbid her from ever touching a book again.

Butler.

I hate Hannah Arendt but to say she is not notable just proves your a pleb

Anscombe made insanely important contributions to the philosophy of action. It is not her fault that you are not educated enough to know of her groundbreaking work.

Feminism doesn't have any worthwhile philosophy though. It's just an edgy trend for teenage girls to grow out of.

Don't let her become a radfem please, then she'll leave you and become a political lesbian.

Whether or not feminism is worthwhile is irrelevant. The point I was making was that OPs gf renounced it for literally the most vapid reason imaginable and that she's a stupid cow for it.

>Did your girlfriend seriously renounce her way of viewing the world because too many people bought into it- because it got too popular?
>Or does she actually believe that if people exploit a philosophy, the philosophy itself literally stops being worthwhile?

Perhaps she believes only in the old meaning of feminism but realises that it has come to mean something completely ill defined at best, and at worst, a divisive ideology, and so is rejecting the term? Or perhaps she believes that the feminist goal has been satisfied, and that the remainers are either overly dogmatic professional victims, or they are vain narcissists who only want to seem hip.I don't know.

Rejecting modern feminism doesn't necessarily mean rejecting gender equality and anti-discrimination.

>Then she asked me something like "What do you think the next philosophy/political movement I get into should be?"

Of course she did.

The fact that people are buying this fucking bullshit is beyond me.

Rejecting the modern incarnation of the term doesn't mean rejecting its ideas.

>sup guys meet my mouthpie- er-- my gf

Congrats that's a very smart girlfriend

this desu

I think it's a good reason to renounce something. If something has been co-opted and warped into something bad, then you can renounce it in good conscience. Isn't vapid.

>truly
>innovative

At some point you'll reveal criteria that are independently verifiable.

>is a stinerposter
>calls others vacuous and edgy

do you have a few extra chromosomes? her case study was the nazis but her diagnostics are used in every regime from tito to amin.

The modern left's unyielding focus on racial and gender politics is borne out of a feeling of political incompetence fruit of the embracement of modern liberal capitalist values and the failure of social democracy.

>a slight biological difference
>SLIGHT
never go full retard. men and women are different species. till you open your eyes to this reality, enjoy being a cuck.

tell her that the fact that capitalist institutions openly deride men's rights activists just shows that it's the logical anti-capitalist movement

Psuedo shit user

It sure doesn't stop them from trying, just look at you participating in the discussion with your extra chromosome.

That the philosopher in question has (1) a penis and (2) identifies as male.

tell her she must burn the capitalist state. write a novel about what happens.

Tell her to read "on women" by schopenhauer

brake up with her

Burkean conservatism

I bet she doesn't even see the irony, living without any self-awareness must be a blissful ignorance.

You absolutely, completely missed the point of the post you quoted, congrats

I laughed. Bunch of humorless queens around here.

Feminism wasn't co-opted by capitalists, it was co-opted by Marxists in order to push for increased non-white immigration into the West. Feminism is now a completely anti-white institution. She has it totally backwards.

>Your misogyny is showing

So that screencap of SJW's on reddit plotting to "infiltrate Veeky Forums thru Veeky Forums and a few other slow moving boards because they're more liberal" was legit? Fascinating.

This

kill yourself

>actually believing this

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>Feminist rejects feminism because it's popular
>Not because it's wrong and harmful to society
>Asks a man what she should do next
Delicious, delicious irony

>criticizes other women for "wearing feminism like a badge"
>unironically asks "What do you think the next philosophy/political movement I get into should be?"

>"on women" by schopenhauer

Wow, I just read this and had no idea Schopenhauer was such a neckbeard. This is total trash, I'm like laughing at how bad this is. He really was full of himself, wasn't he?

>Reading it now
I dunno user, seems pretty good so far.

I'm reading it right now, and honestly, I can't help but agree with him on most of what he says. I wish I didn't, honestly. I wish I could fall back into believing women have equal capacity for intellectual and spiritual growth and maturity, but I honestly can't anymore. Even the smartest most well-read women who I've regarded as complete equals and worthy of admiration I inevitably come to realize only took up intellectual pursuits as a fashion trend to suit their "unconventional" image of themselves and thus have an extremely shallow understanding of and respect for the ideas they show off like a new purse.

Is there any literature that can legitimately make me believe in the equal potential of women again?

Personal experience will always trump some literature. The proof is in the pudding, as they say.

Tell her to start with the Greeks.

this x10000000

By the last paragraph, he starts arguing that only men should inherit property relations and that men are the only ones capable of "non-material advantages, such as intellect, learning, courage, and the like."

>That the property which men have with difficulty acquired by long-continued struggling and hard work should afterwards come into the hands of women, who, in their want of reason, either squander it within a short time or otherwise waste it, is an injustice as great as it is common, and it should be prevented by limiting the right of women to inherit. It seems to me that it would be a better arrangement if women, be they widows or daughters, only inherited the money for life secured by mortgage, but not the property itself or the capital, unless there lacked male descendants. It is men who make the money, and not women; therefore women are neither justified in having unconditional possession of it nor capable of administrating it. Women should never have the free disposition of wealth, strictly so-called, which they may inherit, such as capital, houses, and estates. They need a guardian always; therefore they should not have the guardianship of their children under any circumstances whatever.

This is so painfully outdated it almost reads like some crazy man's delusion.

>May it not be that the influence of women in France, which has been increasing since Louis XIII.‘s time, was to blame for that gradual corruption of the court and government which led to the first Revolution, of which all subsequent disturbances have been the result?

>not realizing that it was women that sparked the French Revolution
>not realizing that the Revolution was actually good and the entire royal family should have been massacred ten times over

Everyone should read The Origin of the Family, Private Property and the State by Engels.

yeah, talk to my girlfriend or a few of my female professors