Why do science never research the benefits of nofap and claim is placebo?
I honestly believe is not placebo, even music sounds better now, have more energy, my fapping cravings disapeared, can make better jokes, people laugh at me and want my company, girls seem more interested in me, build muscle faster, less depression, more desire to suceed in life, more motivation to do good stuff, emotional stagnation gone.
This shit can't be lmao placebo nigger.
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>This shit can't be lmao placebo nigger.
yes it can. you wanted a fix so you chose some arbitrary factor to blame/give credit to. the simple fact is you're weak without your placebo.
>Why do science never research the benefits of nofap and claim is placebo?
because it would have already easily been noticed, that people who are unable to jack off have different physiologic characteristics, which are pretty easily identifiable from bloodtests and shit . it's not true at all.
Why don't you make the first step into uncharted grounds, user?
>fucking up your dopamine levels (adiction) is a meme
???
so cocaine and drug adictions are placebo as well?
there's a huge difference between dopamine release from masturbating once a day and doing cocaine until your receptors are downregulated. not to mention one is natural and endogenous and one isnt.
a better question is why do you care. you found the magical secret, you know it, why do you care about others? do your own scientific research, publish it, and become an expert in the field overnight if you're so confident with your assertions. (but they are wrong)
why do you care that I care?
I made a question, you claimed is placebo, I claimed is not because porn and masturbation releases the same dopamine levels as cocaine.
> porn and masturbation releases the same dopamine levels as cocaine.
that''s not true at all.
>why do you care that I care?
because you pol idiots are shitting up sci with your pseudoscience bullshit. "hurr durr tell me why you deny x!"
>le pol boogeyman
>afraid to discuss a topic
But they have. You just suck at the research process.
it's not that im afraid, it's that you refuse evidence because of your anecdotal experience, not to mention your topic is retarded. please quantify "girls seem more interested in me, building muscle faster, less depression", and all your other bullshit.
>music even sounds better now
fucking lel
anecdotal evidence is still some kind of evidence, specially if hundreds or dozens of people also have the same experience.
>but music
not a meme, look up how nofap makes music sounds better on reddit.
>Why do science never research the placebo?
>Why do they think is a bad thing?
>tfw we could live in perpetual placebo
>look up how nofap makes music sounds better on reddit
>on reddit
All I needed to read to confirm this thread is bait. Fucking saged.
Why are we being raided by /pol/edditors?
because (((science))) promotes porn and fapping as healthy.
If the research indicates it is a placebo than that is the claim. More research may be required. You can't claim or quantify anything based on feels and a few individual's opinions.
but maybe i'm getting memed like a retard but isn't porn addiction know to be a thing ? And fapping and watching porn are deeply related especially here no ? the level of stimulation your brain get should be different is you fap while thinking about your teacher or watching a loli getting raped to death no ?
LET ME TOUCH MY COCK REEEE
Did you stop fapping when you started an SSRI?
Maybe no desire to fap is a side effect of your anti-depressant medication, which is the real cause of all of those effects.
There was this story a while ago about these scientists who wanted to research how porn affected the mind. The problem was they couldn't find test subjects who didn't watch porn at all.
Young boys (teens and early 20s) claim it's a placebo because they have basically unlimited sexual stamina, so there's really no difference between no fap and fapping to them.
When you get older as a man, ejaculation starts to take a lot out of you, sometimes taking up to a week to recover from, and the effects compound if you do it again before you recover.
No fap is of course real. It's as clear as night and day to almost every guy older than 25.
Can't confirm your findings, am 26 now and can rub one out as much and as easily as ever.
I do have trouble trying to ejaculate when having actual sex though, takes forever if i've been fapping too much (and watching pron) before, anyone know the relation between that?
Sound like you have
>P o r n
>I n d u c e d
>E r e c t i l e
>D i s f u n c t i o n
isaac newton was a lifelong celibate and he was a genius
checkmate
[math]\int i \pi \delta \, d\delta =\text{constant}+\frac{1}{2} i \pi \delta ^2[/math]
Well, with a daily fugg I don't need porn anymore, just can't find any gf to actually lemme smash that regularly.
since I know how to 'fix' myself haven't really bothered to do so either. This November will be my first attempt at a nofap month outside of being on vacation with others and being forced to nofap.
>anecdotal evidence is still some kind of evidence, specially if hundreds or dozens of people also have the same experience.
No, it has no significance at all. Go read a book and uplift yourself from making instinctual dipshit conclusions.
PS specially is not a valid synonym for especially, using it as one makes you look grammatically retarded.
Nothing wrong with placebo if it's working for you
>No, it has no significance at all. Go read a book and uplift yourself from making instinctual dipshit conclusions.
So how do social sciences gather data? All they CAN possibly do is collect a large enough amount of anecdotal evidence to make statistically significant statements.
You fuckers are obsessed with this shit.
Geez, it's almost like people masturbarte frequently and may be interested in what happens to them because of it.
You don't have to research what is obviously false. If someone decided to do serious research on nofap they would be laughed out of the scientific community.
It would be like researching healing crystals or some shit.
>It would be like researching healing crystals or some shit.
And yet this has been done for centuries in the middle ages, it's just that now we can conclude that they don't work, so we stopped it.
Afaik, Noone has thoroughly investigated nofap in the MA.
>drug adictions
>he thinks drug addictions are anything more than just an excuse from addicts to put off quitting
>You don't have to research what is obviously false.
That's just not true. Do you realize how much time, energy, and money get wasted studying the "link" between autism and vaccines?
not the quoted guy but I want to believe that you are right. However, every time I bring that up with literally anyone, tyre like "but look at these studies" and I have to accept defeat. Are there any studies suggesting you are right?
Higgins, Stephen & J. Wong, Conrad & J. Badger, Gary & Ogden, Doris & L. Dantona, Robert. (2000). Contingent Reinforcement Increases Cocaine Abstinence During Outpatient Treatment and 1 Year of Follow-Up. Journal of consulting and clinical psychology.
and look into some of Gene Heyman's work
>because (((religion))) promotes anything related with sex as unhealthy
ftfy
Thanks user
Try getting funding.
Only way to fix masturbation and porn consumption addiction and its bad effects
Is to both stop doing it and meet a girl to have sex with her regularly and learn to get excited by her body - actually you won't really learn anything just re-discover it very fast.
Alternatively do a lot of physical exercise, but a fucking lot !
It's not that hard to understand, scientists aren't some kind of saints that never lie for their own benefit, you can buy them like politicians you can buy whole universities and decide what ideology will be thought(socialism, the illusion of equality, feninism etc.) or do people really believe that things like that are a thing of the past, do people even try to understand how things work?
>pol boogeyman
This is probably the board where /pol/ immigrants are the biggest problem. I would agree if we were talking about /v/ or some shit, but take a look at the fucking Catalog and see how many topics have to do with race intelligence or other buzzword bullshit. Clearly there is an influnce.
>meet a girl to have sex with her regularly
pls help, I just cant find that girl
It's not placebo at all, it makes perfect sense.
Masturbating tricks your mind into thinking you're having sex all the time, it doesn't have to work that hard because clearly you're spreading your seed.
When you stop, your brain kicks into overdrive, in an attempt to get laid again. Dopamine is essentially the main chemical to get you laid. It's why people find it easier to pick up girls after a few lines of coke.
They use proper methodology to control relevant variables to obtain a meaningful result. Methodology is the most important part of any statistical study as it determines if your results are utter nonsense or not.
the only way to deal with these retards is to ignore them until they go away, pseudoscience is literally all over Veeky Forums especially when it comes to med/bio stuff
>anecdotal evidence is still some kind of evidence
this has to be bait right
>Dopamine is essentially the main chemical to get you laid. It's why people find it easier to pick up girls after a few lines of coke.
How does coke come in there? Does consumption of coke == not having sex? I'm a brainless when it comes to any Chem or more lifesciency stuff, sry
Coke makes your brain release dopamine which increases confidence and energy etc.
Refraining from masturbation can do a similar thing, but naturally.
>Refraining from masturbation can do a similar thing, but naturally.
>Giant fucking citation needed
Please don't tell me you believe this user. Show we also refrain from other activities that release dopamin in our reward pathway? Should I stop petting puppies? Stop helping old ladies across the street? Stop socializing with people? Hell should I stop having sex period? God knows that has to release a ton of dopamine if masturbation does.
The difference is that refraining from masturbating not only releases dopamine, it creates it as well.
Have you ever taken a small break from masturbating and then experienced a stronger orgasm because of it?
My erecting is perfectly fine though, it's only the ejaculation that is hard/impossible
