Why do we tolerate racism in literature?

got them tumblr posts?

why are women so trash

If this were real then it would be awful. But it probably isn't.

glorious pents, i wish i could deliver. she changed her url and i couldn't find the new one. only the first one addressed "The Incident," the other two were just uninspired takes on white, male privilege. she used the phrase "word rape," which i tried so hard to use to track down the posts, to no avail

idk but this particular woman ended up going to vanderbilt and dropped out after getting all Fs her first two semesters. sweet vindication

I don't know who you are

But I see you all over this board.
JUST BECAUSE YOURE A WOMAN
DOESNT MEAN YOU CAN BLOG POST
WITH A FUCKING TRIP

Get off this board. Jesus Christ ...

"Snitching" on someone to a teacher like that is quite different to grabbing a book from someone and dressing them down.
I suspect Pink saw someone reading a book and fantasised about doing that with their friends agreeing to corroborate it, but it didn't actually happen.
Right or Left, it's most likely made-up.

While we are at it: Anyone got the Butterfly nudes?

she's been here longer than you have. learn to filter the trips that trigger you, reddit newfag.

>bait
>on Facebook, a website connected with your irl identity

you know, you can post with a trip, too. you have the power. whatever benefit you perceive me gaining from my trip is also available to you. if it is such a privilege, why not seize it for yourself?

yeah, you're right. there are plenty of women actually unhinged enough to do this, but if she actually had binned some poor man's book (btw, what grown man is this who is reading huckleberry finn in a coffee shop), she likely would have been escorted out and the post would have been indignant rather than triumphant

>t. Obese man wanting some muck pussy

I sincerely hope you die soon.

i really hope so for the sake of humanity

>someone who cares this much about Veeky Forums
>getting this mad
>calling me a loser for filtering annoying trips
sure thing kiddo.

I had a similar experience without the autistic book grabbing. I was reading Hitler and Stalin: Parallel Lives and somebody came up to me and accused me of being a Nazi. They had no idea what the book was, they just saw Hitler written on the cover.

>you know, you can post with a trip, too

Not the person you're responding to, but I'll bite.

When Veeky Forums was created, it was only meant to be for weaboo shit, talking about anime and special interests. /b/ became big, you know the story, its all shit. However, one of the lasting appeals of Veeky Forums is the amount of anonymity you have here; messages are based on content rather than who says it. You can go to any board and get a cacophony of voices that either agree with or disagree with you, and you can either be a pleb and try to please all of them, or realize that not everyone has good ideas. If you say something stupid, nobody knows that you said it.

Now, for an online culture that prides itself on anonymous shitposting, what do you think having identities here would do? From what I can see, it leads to favoritism—either you seek attention by the people who use usernames, get angry at them, or altogether ignore them. The illusion of anonymity is shattered. Ideas sudden have weight based on who is speaking rather than what is said.

Factor in the overall demographic that is overwhelmingly male, incel, and clamors at the slightest hint of female attention, and you've got a recipe for manipulation.

This is where you come in. You've established yourself as a girl who likes to read books on a website full of useless degenerates and English majors. Instead of coopting the culture here, you've decided to steal some spotlight. I don't blame you, though. You probably don't get a lot of male attention in life, and whatever attention you get is usually superficial and social niceties (hi how are you, here let me get the door for you). But the fact of the matter is that you need to feel validated by just getting (You)'s and even the people getting upset at your tripcode fuels the narcissistic ego you've been feeding. Ironically, you don't even need to use a tripcode anymore since people can recognize you by the way you write now. all lower class, excessive use of commas, $0.10 vocab. you got it all.

So heres your (You), you cunt. Now tits or gtfo.

Lolita is honestly the only book I'd be remotely self-conscious about reading in public. But I don't think anybody would recognize it, thankfully.

And it's one of my fave books too

because there is nothing wrong with racism, unless you go full autist and start actually killing other people because of their race

me too
t. American

this tho

I hate this cunt. I want her out. This. I don't understand why so many women need this validation, especially on Veeky Forums of all places.
Go have a "girls night out" and serenade your senses.

That's a lot of effort you went through just to went some of your resentment user.

Read some comfycore like Siddharta and meditate a bit, it's much better, maybe even make a nice cup of tea and then come to my house and we can look at the stars and smoke a joint and just smile generally it's a very nice thing to feel you should try kthxbye

It took me 5 seconds to write. I don't have any resentment; I think she gives good critiques from time to time. I'm just tired of seeing people fucking blow up from her use of a tripcode.

>there's nothing wrong with racism

I'm not a tumblrina, but if you think that there's any merit in having prejudiced views and pre-established labels when judging someone's character is anything but retarded in this day and age, you are probably a sad and/or anxious human being.

We don't need those brain processes anymore, nobody will kill you if you don't fit in a tribal reality-tunnel, it's just anxiety for the sake of it with literally no benefits to it.

>smoking the herbal jew
kill yourself degenerate

Veeky Forums is a straightedge board

>implying black people don't have thug tribes in America
>implying they won't kill you if you take a turn down the wrong street for being "rich whitey" while they rob you
>implying that everyone else has reached the enlightenment that seemingly all modern whites have reached in regards to race.
>implying that the 1950's view towards race hasn't been abandoned by whites and coopted by nigger-culture

>I'm just tired of seeing people fucking blow up from her use of a tripcode.

Man nobody who is not a retard gives even the most remote of fucks about her, you are just letting yourself get pulled into the autism vacuum which Veeky Forums so aptly creates.

Use that amazing typing speed you claim to have to write your new book instead of wasting your time and precious creative energy with such drivel

Why?! It's a classic, it consistently makes the lists for "top 100 novels" in normie publications, the prose is fantastic, and it's spurred so many adaptations, spinoffs, and derivative work, not just in literature, but all modern mediums - film, music, even stage.

I do not and will never understand why anyone would be embarrassed by Lolita. It is, unapologetically, my favourite book and I don't give a shit if people choose to misunderstand it (and me). Let them say something, I'll educate them.

I'd be by far more embarrassed to read a Mills & Boon tier trashy shit. I'm including modern "billionaire romance" in that category.

>IT'S CURRENT YEAR
>REEEEEEEE STOP HATING DEM GOODBOYS
shut the fuck up reddit

Being straightedge having never tried drugs is more degenerate than being an addict, from a literary perspective.

I like being sober, but being proud of being "straight-edge" and avoiding any and all consciousness-altering substances is just as retarded as identifying as a "pothead" or "acidhead" and being high all the time.

I do feel I have a problem with the devil's herb at the moment, but I'm confident I'll get through it by working on my willpower.

>tfw 15,000 pages written over the weekend >.>

I'm actually in a block right now. I'm not sure how I want to continue; either I have the protagonist tortured by the old man who oscillates between manic and kindness (think Norma Bates) or tortures the the protagonist by chaining him to the floor and forcing him to pray without food and water.

I'm not sure which is more depraved, and thus, better. Also I've never been tortured before so I can't
>write what (You) know
I'm starting to think I've written myself into a corner, even though I know how I want the book to end.

words, not pages*

>DUDE WEED LMAO
>mfw degenerate addicts try to lecture me on literature or degeneracy

>complains about tripfags
>proceeds to blogpost

Get some irl friends.

Hard to make friends when you move around a lot.
>not underage, just a wanderer.

youtube.com/watch?v=wuIHYsr0hlY

Eh, I'm not gonna have a panic attack if someone ask me to summarize the plot or anything, my awkwardness or anxiety resistance is pretty high. But still, I'd rather not talk about it with "normies".

>it consistently makes the lists for "top 100 novels" in normie publication

Well, Ulysses also makes a lot of lists but I don't think even 1% of the population has read it.

I am the 99%

It's time we start banning this garbage or editing it at the least.

What is the book about? It depends on the themes, like always.

This is lowquality bait brotherino

>having prejudiced views and pre-established labels when judging someone's character

this is not the current definition of racist. in /lecurrentyear/ wanting to preserve your way or life is racist.

example: african immigrants neighbours cook their shitty african food (they use like 50 onions per meal) and the whole building smells like shit, turn on the tv and i justv heard of a terrostic attack in front of westminster, a close friend of mine was robbed by an immigrant.

not beign ok with is racist

it may have originated as bait but I have grown to post ironically believe it.

in short, fuck off degerate

Why is the West the only civilization that self-flagellates itself for its past?

I have an african neighbour, and he stinks our collective bathroom with some nasty odour of sweat. But even if I sometimes feel my brain coupling that odour with "black people", I am self-aware enough to know that this is simply a fallacy of my monkey brain, and I drop it like a hot potato before it makes a mark in my unconscious. Those "pre-thoughts" also only surface when I'm already angry with something else, or when I'm feeling anxious in general, and that's actually a huge thing to consider. When I'm feeling happy or equanimous, my brain never even goes there.

Yes, "racism" is a survival tool, but a pretty fucking obsolete one. To think that every member of a race is by default going to have a characteristic of a particular member you know is simply not true.

When I lived a month in Africa, by knowing a lot of different black people, I didn't get those "pseudo-thoughts" for a long time. I think it's just a way our brain has to make us behave and fit in our own "tribe", since in cavemen times not fitting in meant death.

Themes I can think of are
>Isolation
>Self-criticism
>Relationships
>Asocial-ness

Overall the story is about the protagonist who is extremely good at something, but doesn't believe he really is. He doesn't really reach very hard and doesn't want to "sell" himself, so he ends up accepting an invitation to a college that isn't really all that prestigious and is very unknown. Halfway through is basically a surreal moment where he gets taken out to sea by a unknown man who claims to be from the college and dumped into the ocean, where the ocean pulls him into a cave where he meets the old man who is poisoning and drugging and torturing him, and a black hairy beast that protects the area. The only way the beast is satisfied is if it destroys great art, and so the old man (who was also an artist but is failing) forces the young protagonist to create art in the cavern for the beast to destroy

>Old man is a symbol for society urging artists to create for their enjoyment
>Black best is a symbol for the protagonist's insecurity, destroying his art and criticizing himself

This is about where I'm stopped at. The next part I want to do involves a long time span (which I might switch narrators to another character to show the world decaying into an artless, BNW type society following some sort of cataclysmic event), during which the protagonist evolves as a person and is making amazing pieces of artwork, but the beast is still destroying it and the old man is still enslaving him. MC then kills the old man (society's urge to create for their own benefit) and kills the Beast (the anxiety the protagonist has for his own art), destroys the cavern by flooding it and swimming to the surface.

From there I can either show him wandering back home to see his family gone and moved on, cities in ruins, etc etc standard postapocolyptic fare. Ultimately, I want him to climb a mountain and carve from its face a giant statue that rejuvinates the world into understanding greater human emotions other than avarice and consumption.

Its probably going to be about 80,000 words or so, depending on how much I want to torture the MC.

The problem has been addressed and successfully solved.

Well, even if I was the most degenerate being on earth, I'd still be much happier and more content than you clearly can even dream of being right now.

I'm laughing at you, but it's a sad and compassionate laugh, really. Get better user.

>I don't blame you, though. You probably don't get a lot of male attention in life, and whatever attention you get is usually superficial and social niceties (hi how are you, here let me get the door for you).
Gosh, you're right, user, the fact that she doesn't get much attention irl simultaneously justifies tripcoding and gives her a totally unique perspective on this board that benefits from her voice being identified in every post she makes. Golly gee, I sure am glad we finally found someone who doesn't get much social attention to post around here, because that sure is special enough to warrant shitting up the board with a tripcode.
Names should be used when relevant to the thread, i.e. "OP here." And you, trip enabler, really need to go back.

ok I'll try. thanks degenerate

You really misread the tone, and most of the words, of that post.

>whatever benefit you perceive me gaining from shitting up the entire board and showing a complete lack of understanding of the board culture is also available to you. if it is such a privilege, why not seize it for yourself?

GEE I DUNNO

m-me too

alright, sure, but none of this is actually true

in practice, using a trip means that i can look up every single thing i've ever said, which is understandably handy. i have every thread i've ever cared to post in at my fingertips, and i have everything i've posted as well. this is the main appeal. i could accomplish this with a name, but i've used multiple names, and always the same trip. i am realizing that it's probably a mistake to use a name, and that the trip alone would do just fine, so at least some good came from your post.

there is also the theoretical appeal that i get to have an identity and that identity entails accountability of opinion, but of course, there is no way that my actual identity could in any way even slightly overlap with anyone here's image of me. so feedback, good and bad, which is based off of an understanding of my character rather than what i'm saying in the moment, has no actual weight. if i ever got any actual compliments, how could they flatter me, when they are not even really directed at me? similarly, insults are boring and pointless, because they're insulting a trip that lacks a Y chromosome, and not the actual person who i am.

Veeky Forums is full of lonely, neurotic males, a lot of them with personality disorders. a woman "invading" their space gets to be the object of all of their mommy issues, sexual frustration, and general male angst. i didn't get to enjoy this until a couple days ago when one person realized i was XX. now, the hatred is pouring in. coming off the back of the fact that i haven't used Veeky Forums in maybe 6 or 7 months, so there are plenty of people who only knew me as la trippe femme. the real frustration is not that trips upset the veil of anonymity, but i don't blame you for wishing it were so. i got maybe 1/5 of the hate before today that i'm getting at the moment. it's not because i'm a trip, it's not because i get male attention, it's because i'm a woman, and this board is full of women who hate women, justifiably or otherwise. and i don't care.

unfortunately being told over and over to leave a board does make one want to leave a board, but i've been using Veeky Forums since 2010. frankly, i feel no connection to any of you, and if there were a good alternative, i'd jump on it, but god damn do i like looking at stupid book memes and making fun of people's stupid opinions.

now, i'm sure you didn't actually read this whole post, if you're even reading this, if you ever read a god damn thing at all. but if you are reading this, just know that while i appreciate your attempt at prostrating me, i found that its argument was unconvincing, its prose was unreadable, and it lacked context. write what you know.

p.s. i go to an engineering university with a 70/30 male-to-female ratio, which i feel would be better fodder for accusations of attention whoredom than "you probably don't get any male attention," so please feel free to refer to this in future anti-muck rants

I was lambasted for winning money over Donald Trump's elections by two American girls. I don't even support him, I just read a very concise analysis by a Danish economist who also predicted Brexit. When I told this to another American dude when we were smoking a cigarette, he called me an idiot and became hostile.

On the night of his election, I was disappointed, but bought drinks anyway. I bumped into that guy in the club and asked him the fucking idiot was, laughing and having a good time despite myself.

I received two essays on white priveldge the day after, by two of the whitest and most priveldged American girls I've met. I'm Irish-Cypriot too, so it was ironic.

Another time, a few of my friends got drunk and we started talking about rap. It was a pretty stupid conversation but it ended up tailing into a conversation on if the word nigger was something a white person could say because black people could - really, if racism was contextual (which it is) and in what ways.

The Americans were furious and all left the room. I've never seen them hang out with a minority either, but my best friend is a Pakistani Jew.

I've had countless bad experiences with Americans, which is a shame, because a few of them have been really cool and smart. Liberalism is very different here.

>it's because i'm a woman, and this board is full of women who hate women, justifiably or otherwise. and i don't care.

To be fair, I didn't care either way. I'm just tired of the
>personality disorders and
>lonely, neurotic males
who clog up the fucking board pestering you, causing you to reply, and then we end up with this fucking turd of a thread. To be fair, I contributed to this much the same.

I don't hate you, I don't hate women. I just don't come here to read drama bullshit by fucking pansy cucks who do.

>write what you know.

kek'd hard

> i go to an engineering university
nobody cares.

you explained it. thank you for that. I wouldn't get too mad tho.

I didn't like the images very much to be honest, they seem a tad overblown, even though the themes are good. But that's not a constructive criticism, so there you go:

First of all, if the Old Man/Society needs the artist to create art, why would he torture the MC? I'd write his "torture" being more an emotional one, maybe abusing MC's ego or trying to destroy his inner worth (which could be what ultimately makes MC a stronger artist?) Society needs the artist so the Existencial Monster doesn't eat him up as well, so maybe the Old Man would be the one with the true torture, that being of the Fear of Nothingness (represented by death by the Grue), and he tries to pull the MC down with constant but ultimately empty threats and abuses.

Once the MC realizes that the Old Man is a crippled human being, he can surpass his torture by giving up on his own Ego and not letting the fear of the monster throw him around.

So basically, I'd make MC eat some disgusting shit, sleep naked in filth, and other dehumanizing stuff like that instead of a literal beating. But that's just me.

No problem angranon, I'm here for you.

Old Man tortures him so that he knows his place and continues to create art, especially good art. Theres no great art in happiness, or so they say.

Thank you for the ideas, I'm strongly considering using them.

aw shit i meant men who hate women, sorry, i was so blinded by hysterical rage

you're right, i'm being a little bitch by even replying to it, and i do want to see this board improve. i'm just legitimately not used to it. i miss people clowning me for having bad opinions.

you literally said i get no male attention when irl i get the exact kind of attention you think i would hypothetically get here. it doesn't follow that i would cultivate it, especially because it's incredibly uncomfortable and embarrassing. you dipshit.

just a question. Have you ever, since you started tripping, gone back to anonymousse posting (even just for 1 post)?

yeah, when i make threads and post my writing. and for the occasional shitpost. i think most trips do it this way

fake ass

This is absolutely true, anonymous culture is what makes Veeky Forums the shithole it is. Tripfags have always annoyed me and almost never provide good posts, and if they do, the meritocratic nature of what they're saying is lost.

>can find what I said
Why not use thread-watcher? It's much more useful. One of the appeals of Veeky Forums is the ephemeral nature too. Your post, like everything, will one day die. Even if you want to find it for other purposes, the archive isn't reliable or infinite. It will disappear too.

>i get to have an idenity
The identity is "user". It's one of the most powerful identities on the internet and the core philosophy of the site. And I don't know why you'd want an identity when you even admit that comments towards it mean nothing.

>Veeky Forums is full of lonely, neurotic males
That's true, and I'm certainly lonely, but I've been having sex with a different women once a fortnight for nearly half a year since I ended things with my girlfriend in London (and stopped travelling with a gorgeous 6'' Dutch chick from Amsterdam). I still bang my ex too, and we get on well. In fact, compared to the average user on another board, I've heard about a number of mature and probably fictional but interesting flings here. So don't just play off all the people who dislike you as virgins.

But I do think the sexism on Veeky Forums is sad, and that user's comment is more a silly argument against against a part of you that doesn't really matter - but the point still stands that you are only inviting that kind of assinine discussion by bringing identity into things to begin with. He belittles you because you belittle yourself.

And on "male attention", I don't think that's necessarily fair of the user (but perhaps not untrue, I don't imagine autistic engineers are exactly charming) but I do think all trips certainly demand "attention" regardless of sex - it's the only justification I can think for why you feel so self-righteous in shouting out your chosen name out in a culture that wishes only to avoid such aggravating behavior

And, really:

>getting offended at ad hominems when you're bringing your own identity into discussion and then doing just that back, coupled with a cringe worthy dissection of someone's Veeky Forums post like its a piece of creative writing (as a STEM student no less)

Anonymous or not, that's a really immature way to argue.

It's okay to admit your just insecure user. I'm secure enough to admit the same thing. What's nice about this site is that anonymous culture gets rid of that, rather than bringing it back time after time. And then we can talk about something more real.

>you're right, i'm being a little bitch by even replying to it, and i do want to see this board improve. i'm just legitimately not used to it. i miss people clowning me for having bad opinions.

Then be the agent of that change. You already are pretty friggin active on the board and give some good critiques (at least, you show an interest in doing so).

B O S T O N
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Nobody hates us more than we do!

Protestant guilt.

The only Americans I like are self-hating ones. They have the best traits of your country.

How to get private 1 on 1 time with a trip code cunt

I'm an 18 year old literary genius who's just embarked on his first writing. It is like the Lolita of beastiality and features a main character addicted to letting dogs fuck her. She is also a kindergarten teacher. Clearly I am special so I address this next bit to the trip code girl: I propose we talk. I'm not weird, I'm just pushing the envelope with graphic dog sex (in some cases the dogs are puppies and she rapes them so to speak)

I'm also extremely attractive but given the topic of my magnum Opus, I ought to conceal my identity.

Respond.

sent you a pm ;)

People aware of the Dunning Kruger effect are possibly just as likely to fall victim to it.

It takes a measure of intelligence to break away from such patriotism, does it not?

yeah, you're right, i'll stop now

symbolic sage to end my mortification

thank you user, you're not so bad after all

Because it's not important.

Okay, Cervantes says sandniggers are worse than good white Christians. Sure. I get it. So? That's a bad example because Cervantes by action shows sandniggers being just as good and virtuous as spics, and in any case some argue he was part conversos, but you get the idea.

It happens. If you're autistic, and the content fits your ideology, I can see why you might think otherwise.
He's right though. The headline's inflammatory af obviously, but people don't blow themselves up unless they're really disaffected.
>Why is the West the only civilization that self-flagellates itself for its past?
Christianity.

You just made it in the acknowledgments of my book

I need to clean this soup out of my pants