Can we get a hidden agenda in pop-culture thread going?

Can we get a hidden agenda in pop-culture thread going?

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youtube.com/watch?v=ZSb3nG4oTNQ
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I had a professor talk about the reason most advertisements include sexy/attractive people is not just because humans are sexual creatures and we will associate the product with sexual pleasure, but more importantly they do it to force you to contrast with yourself in order to hammer it into your head that you aren't attractive, you don't have perfect teeth and hair, you don't have a perfect family etc in order to make you feel like shit. And when people feel like shit about themselves they want to do whatever it takes to feel better, and buying things makes you feel good.


Also, check out this article:
telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/mediatechnologyandtelecoms/9191107/Think-Tank-Its-the-subconscious-that-makes-ads-work.html

the worst part is that this article and all the books I've been trying to find about the use of the subconscious in advertising were all made to try to train advertisers to be better manipulators and not how to defend yourself from advertising.

Advertisers truly are scum.

Damn, this is a hard one.

I tried to look for a pick of Big Bang Theory using biodegradable cleaning products/ bringing them home from the grocery store but I couldn't find anything on google.

This does have a lot of potential. People who care like to sneak stuff into the background for the smart and the deep audience members.

This would be a great new Veeky Forums thing.

I walked into my two family members watching "iron fist" fist on Netflix. It's one of the superhero TV shows that claim to have adult themes. The general plot and the level of acting in the show felt like an episode of the power rangers except it was interspersed with genuinely unsettling violence. A character got beat to death with ice-cream scoop being bloodily battered into the back of his head. Yet the show still has this cartoon like quality to the plot and character design.

Another thing I noticed is that all the actors are supremely fit. They were clothes that accentuate biceps, back muscles and arse cheeks (same thing for the women). This blatant soft porn approach seems to have found its way into contemporary soap operas too. Eastenders is a good example.

I dunno maybe I'm just prematurely turning into an old man, but something is seriously up with the media these days.. The marvel shit on Netflix anyway. It's ducking dehumanising. Can't wait for Cape movies to crash and burn. It's infantalising our culture

Literature was once aware of sexual deviation, as compared to now where deviance is no only an acceptable topic, but a sales pitch. Odd fetishes (50 shades of Gay) and even bestiality (fucking bats and wolves, AKA: Twilight)

man youre so smart for only figuring that out when people told you
man what if it's not just advertisers but people in general who like to remind you how shitty you are?
what if advertisers are just all regular people like me (not you, you dumb loser) and you are just a sap?

The same 4 or so producers produce all the pop records that go on to be mega hits

Pop music is getting stupider and less original because they know it sells so they repeat the same trite formula ad infinitum

damn... I feel like shit
Are you selling anything?

This is nothing new

Yeah bro, it's called your self esteem, bitch.

>I walked into my two family members watching "iron fist" fist on Netflix. It's one of the superhero TV shows that claim to have adult themes. The general plot and the level of acting in the show felt like an episode of the power rangers except it was interspersed with genuinely unsettling violence.
Its capeshit
>A character got beat to death with ice-cream scoop being bloodily battered into the back of his head. Yet the show still has this cartoon like quality to the plot and character design.
Its capeshit
>Another thing I noticed is that all the actors are supremely fit
Its capeshit
>They were clothes that accentuate biceps, back muscles and arse cheeks (same thing for the women).
Its capeshit
>This blatant soft porn approach seems to have found its way into contemporary soap operas too. Eastenders is a good example.
Its dramashit

>I dunno maybe I'm just prematurely turning into an old man, but something is seriously up with the media these days.. The marvel shit on Netflix anyway. It's ducking dehumanising. Can't wait for Cape movies to crash and burn. It's infantalising our culture
>Can we get a hidden agenda in pop-culture thread going?
The only difference between current pop culture shittiness and past pop culture shittiness is that you're alive to experience it. It isn't especially shitty and not everything that isn't congruent with your own shitty ideology is an "agenda". You share the world with a lot of people who don't think what you think. You don't have to watch their shitty shows or listen to their shitty music, God knows they don't like yours either.

You seem like the type of person that would vandalize a library's front door.

As far as I go, Im not a bitch. Ive got a big dick, not that its none of your concern, but I;m big down there. Im big, you on the other hand I bet you are tiny. fag.

Im typing this next to my norweigan model gf (she's 16 btw)

Funny story, when I hitchhiked the US and Mexico. I was in San Fransisco hanging out with some hippies on Haight Ashbury, and I really liked this dysfunctional spiritual hippy girl (Jennarose) so I went into the library all dirty like and stole this book just for her. Because it would have made her even more "powerful"

She also, like me, LOVES this book. haha

en.wikisource.org/wiki/A_Course_in_Miracles

Ads are the prime example of the empty promise of the culture industry. They create the illusion that perfect harmony between the individual and society can and should be achievable and that there's something wrong with you if you have the insecurities produced by advertisements, which should be remedied through purchase, conformity, further participation in capitalism...
Of course everything is the same, nothing that relies on an infrastructure owned by monopolies to be disseminated can present an image other than that which conforms to the monopolies' owners' concept of the ideal consumer/employee
it's been going on since the 20s

Is this too /pol/?

That new phenomenon of the Elsa/Spiderman youtube videos that target toddlers for views has me suspicious that its all part of a conscious plan to infect/cripple young kids' psyches by filling them up with all sorts of weird fetishes.

Most people develop their fetishes from experiences as kids or atleast that seems to be the case, and all the videos are all weirdly sexual like about closed female naked male humiliation, crossdressing, farting, cuckolding, humiliation in general. It just seems really weird..

>obscure allusion to Jews/Judaism with no real antagonist
>vaguely apocalyptic
>subversive implications to institutionalized/systemic destruction of "Western Culture" by said boogeyman
>no actual didactic component, leaving the perfect space for a conspiracy enthusiast to insert their own
hell yeah bro

/pol/ has made me paranoid about black male/white female couples. I can't help but notice that combination makes up the overwhelming amount of mixed-race couples in mass media.

But I love my white culture

>Bach, Thomas Jefferson, his spiral library, Tai Lopez..

I can't get enough, I want to make it better. I want to start something. Gainesville, Florida. GAINESVILLE FLORIDA

GAINESVILLE FUCKING FLORIDA

Not really

You just notice it more

Just as you start paying attention to audi cars, you start noticing them everywherr

I mean it's all about perspective. It's like when I see a woman the first thing is like "woman can have spiritual journeys and can be cool like me?"

and then it's like "oh yeah, duh they're human, just like me."

~Same goes for race.

That's a pretty paranoid way of thinking
Have you considered that advertisers don't care why some ads sell more than others and only noticed that the better looking the model the more successful the ad

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Koala was totally my nomad name...

Got given it in Santa Cruz mexico (I hitchhiked down there and back to Texas on $100) lul

Well now that you have educated me on this genre of odd material, it's hard to believe there isn't something going on.

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>le everything was always shit anybody who complains about anything is an ignorant edgelord
I know that smutty literature used to be a popular thing but if you think we aren't living in culturally debased times you're kidding yourself.

I want a bust with my face on it one day...

It's because that sells
Black male white female is the most socially accepted interracial relationship (which is pretty racist when you think of it) and interracial anything makes people pat themselves on the back

Once again, it's pretty racist when you think of it (that way.)

It's all about perspective..
Which is the answer to life, I've concluded. kek

I wanted to grow up to be a debaser

>white culture
>dusky Thomas

Thomas Jefferson was a dirty kid.

And then he took a shower and became a RENAISSANCE MAN

I wasn't saying they do it just out of spite, calling on people's insecurities just happens to be one of the easiest ways to manipulate them. I agree with you.

Same thing with music in supermarkets, as far as I know, they don't know why it works, but it causes people to buy more products than otherwise

No. White male on gookette is the most socially acceptable.

You're not wrong, I just think it's funny that even the people consuming and producing interracial propaganda (and I mean that the way Chomsky described it) have a sense of what's normal and what isn't

Black male white female is the most socially accepted interracial relationship

The point isn't that it's always existed but it's always been what the demented populace has enjoyed. Even during the 20s I bet drugstore crime books and western books sold a lot compared to James Joyce.

Actually yes that is the most common followed by bm/wf, I don't think people consider it extreme enough though to really trigger the "aw how progressive" response
But those are still very common in the media
Asians and whites are too close

Oh yeah, like collective consciousness?

Yeah, I feel you. We mold the world we wish to live in.

Noam Chomsky has a big presence in Gainesville, Florida btw. He started the CMC which is a big part of the "alternative" movement here.

Don't know much about him, but I am quite interested in Linguistics and have also heard this song.

youtube.com/watch?v=ZSb3nG4oTNQ

It's a question of technique. Advertisers have been perfecting their tactics for over a century. They developed a body of theory, it's out there if you look for it. The manipulation of people's self esteem and sexual urges was a known tactic even back in Eddie Bernay's day. If anything, they have diversified their methods since then. The same company can mercilessly exploit the consumers' insecurities with one campaign and then turn around for an 'empowering' feel good campaign a la dove soap.

Of course they did. But they had James Joyce and his share of the readership probably would have been respectable. The dark masses are always going to be a bunch of hideous proles but the information age has allowed the rot to spread upwards, rather than banishing it forever like some thought it would. When you're bombarded with everything ever written, filmed and whatever else all at once what chance does James Joyce have of catching anybody's attention?

YOU BUY ME A SO-DA, YOU BUY ME A SO-DA AND THEN... YOU MOLEST ME IN THE PARKING LOT, YEP, YEPYEP

t. moron

what he said was so obvious that i didn't even realize it was worth mentioning.

Well seeing as James Joyce is a household name and continues to be, a lit id say

this site has done more to make me insecure than any ad ever has

>tfw wristlet

There's freemason imagery all over Santa Clarita Diet, as well as a lot of occult symbols, i.e. black sun worship & implied incest/taboo. The whole show is satanic

>twilight is bestiality

This is why I can't take you "muh degeneracy" people seriously

Outside of horror movies involving demonic possession, it's extremely difficult to find a sympathetic portrayal of the Catholic Church in Hollywood. In fact, portrayals of the Church as wicked and evil are often celebrated and awarded.

America has never really stopped hating Catholicism.

>Hollywood B grade horror movies make the Catholic Church lool compassionate by removing fairies and demons from people

Lol

Also, the Cathoiic church is one big farce

The Church is our best hope. Insofar as it does Christ's will, anyway.

>James Joyce is a household name
You either have extremely high-brow friends or spend too much time on Veeky Forums. I highly doubt I know more than 5 people who would have the faintest idea who he is. And yes, I know more than 5 people.

This one shits me to no end. Did you see that abysmal 'Spotlight' movie that won best picture? What a piece of hypocritical garbage that was. They presented the story with all the artistry of a wikipedia article, but if that weren't enough it had to come out of Hollywood of all places. They're just mocking us. Elijah Wood all but admitted that every child in the industry is at serious risk of being sexually exploited and then was shut up about it. Hollywood is pure evil and has been for a long time. You can count the good directors on your fingers, skill and morals, there are barely any.

Will there ever be a movie about Rotherham?

lmao fairytale

youtube.com/watch?v=Tvp97SMZc6M&t=16s

The percentage of total people who read Joyce (or other classic/"high-brow" literature) hasn't changed. But the actual number of readers has been steadily climbing for the past century as it has become steadily cheaper and easier to mass print books. When you make it easier for people to find something to read, while the percentage of intellectual/intelligent people stays roughly the same, you get a huge void to be filled with schlock and easily digested entertainment books.

Mind you, the number of readers has been declining again as attention spans have shortened, and that's a different can of worms altogether.

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>tfw grew up in Santa Clarita

>implying the church isn't evil

The pope is a commie that complains about wealth inequality while the church sits on a vast fortune. They're involved in organized crime and put on a progressive front for their image in the Western world while promoting backwards beliefs in the third world.

I disagree here. Harold Bloom said something like 16 years ago that he was seeing more and more good and intelligent students who simply weren't remotely well read as they were entering Yale. Bloom was teaching there for a long time, if anybody is qualified to talk about trends among intelligent Americans it's him.

youtube.com/watch?v=EVWiwd0P0c0
I found the interview. It's from 2000.

I'm not fond of the Catholic Church but faulting them on their riches is stupid. I hope you aren't one of those clowns who wants them to sell their entire collection of priceless artworks and artifacts to create a bumper-year of gibs for the black hole that is the third world.

That seems like more of a British responsibility to me. And we all know how the British are. Once John Boorman dies English filmmaking is finished. And he's simply too good-hearted to make a movie about such a negative topic. It'd kill him.

>The pope is a commie that complains about wealth inequality

Hey if you make it back to 1945 tell Fred Koch to tell John Birch to lay low.

Read more retard

>Black male white female is the most socially accepted interracial relationship
Lol what planet are you on?

>Black male white female is the most socially accepted interracial relationship

Are you all fucked up on drugs? It's more or less the LEAST accepted interracial relationship, which is why it's the one that awards the most brownie points for representation.

I don't think it really counts as a hidden agenda, but from what I've seen of The Big Bang Theory is absoluetly chalked full of le nerdy product placement.
"Hey guys have you read the is new Marvel TM comic yet?"
"Hey aren't you excited for this Big Upcoming Videogame TM?"
"Let's go see this new Generic Hollywood Blockbuster Capeshit, it's gonna be great and you can trust us because were nerds and we know capeshit!"

tl;dr what are some good book recommendations on this subject

That is incredibly incredibly naive to think advertisers don't autistically try to break down what makes advertisements successful to a science

Wrong
It's WMAF

Even walking around London with my black gf gets us a fuck ton of stares, but i see rice plowers get ignored

That was mainly a joke, but the main point is that sexual perversion wasn't praised of glorified, or even the main point in a story. More of an experience not important to the overlying contrast. I miss books that had something important to get across, not how they're going to sell their next book.

>implying don draper and an assortment of other chads aren't out to get me

I want to bust on your face one day...

Having a hard time dealing with this

I dont know where you are from, but from my perspective, when a woman goes down that road she loses significant social status unless she lives in NYC or the guy is literally a neuro-surgeon

Doesn't change the underlying principle
They're serving the market

Ok (second) most common, however you want to say it
I meant that people accept it in the media because it is (second) most common in society
In both bm/wf and white male Asian female, the females are dating up the testosterone ladder.
Blacks have (on average) more test than whites who have more than Asians

This is the kind of shit that keeps me from dismissing /pol/ entirely. Sure it's 95% edgy kids shitting up muh sekrit club, but every once in a while they come across something like these videos that I literally can't explain otherwise. And your screencap is the tame end of things - there are literal coprophilia videos marketed toward kids on youtube. There's a video of Elsa playing with and eating (presumably fake) feces. I think someone out there actually wants to destroy humanity, and is targeting children to do it.

In my experience, they don't lose social status per say, but I dare say white men will consider them damaged goods.

>youtube.com/watch?v=EVWiwd0P0c0

>he says in 5 to 6 years harry potter will be completely forgotten, and only of interest to sociologists
>17 years later

White males dont lose status dating other races.
White Females lose status dating Blacks or Asians, Not Arabs or Latinos
Male Asians including Indians only lose status dating blacks.
Black Males only gain status by dating other races
Female Blacks only lose status dating black men
Female Asians lose status dating Indians and Blacks
Indian Women only lose status dating black men
Latinos are wildcards
Native Americans are Wildcards
Aboriginals remove status from all, and gain status by all.
Arabs and Persian males function as white men in the west, and asians in the east.
Arab women lose status dating blacks or indians
Persian women are basically white.

The movies are 100% to blame for that

Jewish women and Men lose status dating all others.

Really makes you think

>White males dont lose status dating other races.

They certainly do in my country.

Women only date for status
In our eyes a coal burner is a filthy whore
But in many social circles dating a black guy is "cool"

If you marry a black you do in America, but if we are just talking dating and not reproduction, it is understood as a novelty, with Asians and Latinas being praiseworthy.

Abbos are of course the universal reducer in status.

The men that native women don't want in my country usually end up importing a wife from Thailand or some other Asian country, and they are most certainly viewed as losers by everyone for the rest of their lives for that reason.

>White Females lose status dating Blacks or Asians, Not Arabs or Latinos
Keep telling yourself that, dude.

user seems correct to me.

Kek

That is pathetic, but an assimilated second gen asian qt is a win.

BLACKED

>this is your brain on the red pill

Do humans lose dignity from browsing Veeky Forums, watching anime and masturbating?

>Women only date for status

I dunno man, I'm a total bum but I still managed to pork your mom.

If you brought around some new black girlfriend, and she wasnt a disgusting hoe, your buddies would laugh and ask if you had jungle fever. Now if you put a ring on the finger, they would all grit their teeth and look at each other uncomfortably.

jews along with the irish and koreans are the least spooked. funny how they all were heavily oppressed.

But you can have any irish woman you want for a shot of whiskey and a compliment

the only whites who do that tend to be low-status/poor, really makes you think.

So?

What's the trick for Jews and Koreans?

Starcraft abilities and not being a carrier of Tay-Sachs