If you hate jordan peterson tell me

If you hate jordan peterson tell me

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Jordan "Something is either propaganda or art, btw read Dostoevsky" Peterson

I hate Jordan Peterson.

Does he have any Roblox videos? Looked at his channel but I didn't see any.

Why do you hate him

I want to call Jordan Peterson 'daddy' while he pounds my boipussy

I don't hate him, I don't think of him. Just another boring alt-right flash in the pan. This 'culture' is pure cringe.

>alt-right

He's not that far right, just against actual flashes in the pan; like non-binary pronouns.

>Please call me "her" I'm trans
>no
>btw sort yourself out kiddo
>wtf I'm famous now

How is he even right wing
>dude xtian values means right wing lmao

He's popular because of alt-right
He panders to alt-right
He's made like 20 videos with Rebel for shit's sake

>muh alt right

it's like leftists can't deal with politics beyond the level of labeling things as evil and then dismissing them because they're evil

I've only watched two or three of those videos.
I'm here to talk about his book, since this is Veeky Forums.

Yeah right.
Also have you seen what those NORMIESJWSKEKRAPEFOOGEES are doing to our Great western society lately? And also the Jews.

Boooo

damn

really made me think

no u

I don't hate him. I just think he's a very silly man.

I used to like him until he got demolished by sam harris in round 2. The part where sam talks about the cooking recipe opened my eyes and made me realize you can play his "deep symbolism" game with literally anything.

That example was shit because he already had a well of religious symbolism to pull in. Concepts of duality are helpful and just because they can be applied to salt and pepper doesn't undermine their function to you simple minded tool.

Is he the new Sam Harris for you guys or something?

He popularizes interesting ideas and even gives people the source to go look for oneself. I don't see what's so bad about it that some suddenly hate the guy.

No, Veeky Forums despises Sam Harris (except for arrow girl who has disappeared I hope), but seems to like Jordan Peterson more. Veeky Forums also leans more conservative nowadays so it's not overly surprising.

Peterson is libertarian

rebel are kike shills and peterson argues against the extreme right regularly you dolt

IDK why leftists ended up becoming hypersocialised people who tell you everything is fine and all you have to do is follow 'commonsense' moral precepts, settle into a 'diverse' workplace/daycare environment ruled over by a benevolent shrink/HR caste and become a cog in a society that's about to crash into the ground killing us all. alienation is probably the ultimate source of political energy, Marx was quite aware of that.

He isn't very smart.

How is what he says here wrong though? Is he describing you with his "second-rate intellects" claim? Low resolution ad-hominem attack implies that you have no argument.

Say what you want about leftists, but they almost never appeal to 'commonsense', that's definitely something the right does.

It's an extremely reductive account of postmodernism, somewhat of a straw man.

Every time he mentions postmodernism he comes across as stupid. Its like he did a cursory reading, took everything at face value, and decided he knows all he needs to know and hasn't bothered to dig any deeper.

Go to bed Molyneux.

Jordan thinks Marvel films are art but anything by Riefenstahl isn't. Really makes me think.

DROPPED

His comment on post-modernism is massively inaccurate. It's like saying, "The Greeks believed the world was made of literal fire, so obviously they aren't intellectually sound." It ignores the vast majority of post-modern thought and accomplishment to instead criticize what has managed to filter it's way down into mainstream media and popular culture, which also happens to be the most present, lazy, and disingenuous criticism fired at post-modernism.

In other words, he's a meme-spouting casual at best.

It is true though. Just look at his twitter profile who show up "You might be interested in" bar. Or see with what people he did youtube videos with.
To be fair, I do think you could say he is more "alt light" or just "anti-sjw" i.e. group him with people like Sargon of Akkad.

I don't dislike Peterson for that reason though, Taleb is getting appropriated by some "alt right" figures as well, but I still very much like Taleb's ideas. I dislike Peterson because his philosophy.

On the other hand some of the psychology papers he worked on I find slightly interesting. And it still baffles me how someone who works on those papers can have such odd beliefs. Odd because they contradict with contemporary psychology research.

Forgot to say: I know Peterson dislikes the actual "alt right" and wants to distance himself from them. But he still allies with people associated with them or at least people who have some overlap between "alt light" and "alt right".
I can see why he might do that because it is socially strategic. Other media might not welcome Peterson's ideas that much.

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I don't hate him, but I hate that people won't stop posting such an uninteresting and unremarkable thinker because they refuse to read literature.

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He hates himself far more than anyone else does.

I am starting to think we might see the birth of a new religion.

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Is he retarded, or does he seriously believe that?

kek

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There's no "please" there's only "call me her or you go to jail" so fuck you

The reason why it blew up so much over his youtube videos, means there's something boiling below the surface that needs to be addressed.
There's something very wrong when you can't have a platform anymore, and people are trying to silence your free speech.
You can have a discussion with someone, you can be their slave, or you can be their tyrant.
They are radical pc authoritarians that are pushing this legislation.
Anti Islamophobia law was just passed in Canada...

It's not even "call me her or you can go to jail"
It's "call me xe xim xir or the other possibly infinite number of made up pronouns that I created"
Your identity isn't subjective. Gender isn't a spectrum.

In the case of Jordan peterson I mean, I'm pretty sure he's said he'd use your pronouns, but he just said he WOULD refuse to use these if he was compelled to, and he's not going to use words that he detests(these made up pronouns)
Misgendering someone being a hate crime is fucking stupid.
When you call someone by a pronoun, it's not a mark of disrespect, so how in any sense it's a hate crime when you misgender someone is insane.

>It's "call me xe xim xir or the other possibly infinite number of made up pronouns that I created"
Citation?

I'm no lawyer but it seems to me it's just saying that you can't discriminate against someone based on their gender identity, same as with race. I don't see what the big deal is.

I don't know about Canada's speech laws, but as far as I know US law only applies to government restrictions on speech. Of course the social norm of free speech is distinct from laws protecting it from government censorship. If leftists are trying to silence free speech through direct action, the right should physically fight back once leftists incite violence. For instance, if someone tries to raid a conservative speaker's talk, bring some conservative bodyguards with you to forcibly remove left-wing protesters.

uwm.edu/lgbtrc/support/gender-pronouns/

openparliament.ca/bills/42-1/C-16/

ohrc.on.ca/en/search/site/gender expression

youtube.com/watch?v=eYMTy2KMJUg

Wrong youtube link
youtube.com/watch?v=JDvj6DQd93o

They literally teach two spirit as fact in Canada schools
Canada is so fucked, man.

>This enactment amends the Canadian Human Rights Act to add gender identity and gender expression to the list of prohibited grounds of discrimination.

>The enactment also amends the Criminal Code to extend the protection against hate propaganda set out in that Act to any section of the public that is distinguished by gender identity or expression and to clearly set out that evidence that an offence was motivated by bias, prejudice or hate based on gender identity or expression constitutes an aggravating circumstance that a court must take into consideration when it imposes a sentence.

It seems to me a reach that this is saying that you have to call somebody "xir" or whatever or you'll be thrown in jail. It just says committing a criminal offence motivated by gender identity is an aggravating factor.

I don't know what the first link has to do with it. That's a private organisation, what influence do they have on the law?

youtube.com/watch?v=LsLmRvpwjvQ&t

>"Bill C16, which penalises Canadian citizens for refusing to use gender neutral pronouns, passed."

But it doesn't do that.

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No really. Where does it say that you can be penalises merely for not using gender neutral pronouns? I'm trying to understand what the issue is.

Watching that video I'm convinced Peterson is a paranoid. His whole argument is based on a slippery slope fallacy that being a bit nicer to trans people will inevitably lead to USSR 2.0

Nice strawman fallacy.

No that's pretty much exactly his argument

Do you understand what a human rights violation is, legally speaking?

Big things have small beginnings

It's not.
Dude has studied totalitarianism for a very long time, he's a psychologist, I'm pretty sure he's analyzing the bill at a different level than you are
>bit nicer to trans
lmfao, that is a gross mischaracterization.

Legally speaking, I do not. Care to explain?

No, his argument is that being compelled by law to speak a certain way is antithetical to democracy.

Then wasn't free speech a mistake in the first place? Allowing free speech creates the conditions for the continued leftward march of society. You aren't going to get leftists to say "Okay, trans pronouns, those are good, let's stop here..."

The bill doesn't compel you to speak a certain way though. It just says you can't discriminate against against people based on gender identity, e.g. denying them employment purely because they're trans.

Even if he was, that's his argument, and you haven't shown otherwise.

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence

Holy fuck dude.
Free speech is the mechanism in which we orient ourselves between chaos and order.
Free speech is how we identify problems in our society and fix them.
If you don't have free speech how can you have a discussion with someone?
What's left after you can't talk your problems out? Violence?
Like I said earlier, you can have a discussion with someone, you can be their slave, or you can be their tyrant.
If a word is good, it will be used. You don't need legislation to back it up.
>why won't you douse my lit strawman?

Read The Gulag Archipelago.

>Free speech is the mechanism in which we orient ourselves between chaos and order.
We have the Bible. Who needs discussion?

Society.

No

>asks for evidence
>doesn't read the evidence given him
>Veeky Forums
>No, i don't wanna read a book!
Wow that really makes me think.

I don't hate him. He's just a plain-old, sad and close-minded reactionary, with a degree in psychology

And right-wing 'libertarians' are closet fascists

that was not a law
he is a university lecturer, and has a popular youtube channel. he has multiple popular platforms to spread his message, and even makes money off of it
"radical pc authoritarians" aren't trying to silence his free speach - that would be asking the government to lock him up in jail. they are practicing their own free speech, i.e. criticising Peterson and perhaps trying to convince owners of some platforms not to have him talk there
that is not taking away someone's free speech. free speech is a right to have and to share views and opinions, not an entitlement to any platform

THIS.
Let's kill all trans people now, so we can avoid the social marxist communist distopia just around the corner

Did you know SJEWS want to build toilets in every building for 38 genders from your taxpayer money? Did you know white males will have to retort to designated shitting streets to pay for the '''oppression''' of the so-called minority groups??

wrong

this is not a straw man, allow me to draw a parallel here. I think its fair to attack how post-modernism manifests itself in the real world as opposed to the source material, as thats what counts. You wouldnt waste your time deconstructing commie literature itself, you would just point to the myriad historical examples of it failing. Then, if needed, go to the source material.

Pomo philosophy DOES manifest in no one taking responsibility, its a philosophical string ray numbing everyone out of action.

Maybe you can shed some light on what its REALLY about?

rebel is not alt-right, they are against white nationalism

Peterson is just Jung + neuropsychiatry + the Mickey Mouse meme

>The bill doesn't compel you to speak a certain way though

The bill compels you by law to use someone's preferred pronoun, which is something they literally can whip up on the fly completely subjectively.

And if you don't, you will be put in front of the Social Justice Tribunal of Canada, and if you don't accept their fine you will be held in contempt of court, which means prison.

>The bill compels you by law to use someone's preferred pronoun
Where does it say that?

>"the bill will amend the Canadian Human Rights Act by adding "gender identity or expression" as a prohibited ground of discrimination.[1]"

>Gender expression

That just means any illegal offences motivated by gender identity discrimination will include it as an aggravating factor

No, it means that if a woman has pink hair and you laugh, you can be prosecuted for a hate crime.

It doesn't even come close to saying that you paranoid

What part of "gender expression" don't you understand? Gender expression is literally people's fashion choices.

Laughing at somebody isn't a criminal offence. If you ATTACKED them for it, only then would this law be relevant.

No, it talks about emotional, physical and psychological "atacks"

You really don't have a fucking clue on Hate Crime legislation

Yeah, ATTACKS, which is what I said.

Do you want to get rid of hate crime laws entirely?

>Laughing at somebody isn't a criminal offence

It can be misconstrued that way. Do you really think court cases where an employer asked a woman not to wear her skimpy ass skirt to work isn't going to increase after the passing of this law?

Because it is. Just wait.