If the Big Bang created everything what created the Big Bang

if the Big Bang created everything what created the Big Bang

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The universe contracting in on itself.

>big bang created everything

why do people say this? i don't get this meme. the big bang is literally, by definition, the model of the expansion of space and time. it doesn't involve the creation or start or whatever, because those notions aren't available when you are literally talking about space and time, the backdrop of "before" and "after", not existing yet. even while they existed, they would be impossible to distinguish at such early timescales due to the unity of quantum mechanics and general relativity not being possible, while being necessary to describe that model at that point in time.

so, first off:

1) big bang didn't "create". it merely models the expansion of the universe after t=0. And,
2) our model is still incomplete. We don't know how to unify GR with QM, which is needed at the smaller scales due to high energy and high mass with small regions of space and time. And finally

3)the notions of space and time are "fuzzy". They aren't, at that point in time, distinct in the way we see it, due to QM interplaying with relativity in a rapidly expanding spacetime coontinuum.

Natural laws

>Big Bang created everything
guess it didn't then
duh

Big bang atomistic creationist atheists BTFO

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It has to be something exercising its force. Besides that literally everything is possible. Even abstractions or logical implications could have resulted in the big bang.

Earth planet is really just a hollow semi-sphere acting as a helmet for the top tortoise. The sun and The moon is a fly flying around all over the place. The top tortoise is a hollow semi-sphere acting as a helmet for the tortoise below, and it continues downwards.

Why does it have to be created by something?

The rise of a new universe is not necessarily a creation as we would imagine, but it's almost impossible for a sane mind to believe that it's just the result of nothing.

Just remember - nothing like this was built in the name of atheism.

That's why we should just accept that, the same way we accept the 4th dimension while not being able to picture it.

Yeah and nothing like this was build in the name of religion

That's not the reason why there is a 4th dimension, retard. Why would there be a universe when there was nothing before?

Go on and on. Has nothing to do with religion or science or atheism or whatever. It's all part of life and culture.

Big crunch?
Its a cycle and it will happen again

>intel
>any sort of meaningful innovation since 2011
lol

Except where is the evidence?

>if God created everything what created God

Maybe the big bang is just the output of a black hole and the (non-observable) universe always existed.

>christian art
>any meaningful innovation since the 15 hundreds

Read Nietzsche and some other /pol/ books.

Christianity is art, atheism is science???

>the notions of space and time are "fuzzy". They aren't, at that point in time, distinct in the way we see it, due to QM interplaying with relativity in a rapidly expanding spacetime coontinuum.
What the fuck is this gibberish.

nothing
actually, 'everything' created big bang

>Christian art
>Atheist art
One exists and one doesn't. Let's see if you can pick the right one. No, """innovation""" doesn't count.
(Sorry my bad for English.)

Merely a subway.

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>in the name of atheism
Explain to me how please I'd love it if it were true

....or destroyed

>universe was a singularity that always existed
>a singularity existed
What the fuck was that singularity floating in?

> who even the bing bong theory
> universe not god
> who even the universe
> was god
> who even god
> who even who even god

The Bigger Bang

The Big Bang Theory is a way for scientists to have a God without actually calling it one.

Nothing created anything. It's always been here and always will. No beginning and no end. Infinite.

And?

>The zero-energy universe hypothesis proposes that the total amount of energy in the universe is exactly zero: its amount of positive energy in the form of matter is exactly canceled out by its negative energy in the form of gravity.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zero-energy_universe

>Hartle and Hawking suggest that if we could travel backward in time toward the beginning of the universe, we would note that quite near what might have otherwise been the beginning, time gives way to space such that at first there is only space and no time.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hartle–Hawking_state

>quite near what might have otherwise been the beginning, time gives way to space such that at first there is only space and no time.
Hm, I wonder if that has implications for inflation?

They're just memeing ignore this faggots.

Itself. There is nothing outside the universe. There is no such thing as empty space outside the universe. There was a singularity at the time zero that expanded, the singularity is space and time.

>Hm, I wonder if that has implications for inflation?

Seems like it naturally predicts an inflationary universe.

arxiv.org/abs/1705.05340

>It is shown that the standard no-boundary wave function has a natural expression in terms of a Lorentzian path integral with its contour defined by Picard-Lefschetz theory. The wave function is real, satisfies the Wheeler-DeWitt equation and predicts an ensemble of asymptotically classical, inflationary universes with nearly-Gaussian fluctuations and with a smooth semiclassical origin.

The Long Foreplay

>the notions of space and time are "fuzzy". They aren't, at that point in time, distinct in the way we see it, due to QM interplaying with relativity in a rapidly expanding spacetime coontinuum.
QM cooperating with relativity doesn't mean time and space become fuzzy. Relativity on its own still applies and there has always been a finite (local) space and time that are distinct from each other. The Universe is still expanding rapidly and our theories work just fine.