Soy products have little to no feminizing effects

Soy products have little to no feminizing effects.
Prove me wrong Veeky Forums
fertstert.org/article/S0015-0282(10)00368-7/fulltext

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ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2721724/
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18086792
abcnews.go.com/Health/Healthday/story?id=5438441&page=1
newscientist.com/article/dn12792-eating-soya-could-slash-mens-sperm-count/
fertstert.org/article/S0015-0282(10)00368-7/fulltext
ascopubs.org/doi/abs/10.1200/jco.2002.20.6.1449?journalCode=jco
ars.usda.gov/ARSUserFiles/80400525/Data/isoflav/Isoflav_R2.pdf
americangut.org/our-results-so-far/
independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/japan-sex-problem-demographic-time-bomb-birth-rates-sex-robots-fertility-crisis-virgins-romance-porn-a7831041.html
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if you eat soy products you're already feminine.

QED.

Oh, I didn't know you were an expert on phytoestrogens doctor.
Care to link the study that proves that?

Mark (((Messina))). Of course it was the Jews!

>paid for by American soy manufacturers
>not a conflict of interest

It's not though, it's from a university.
Learn to check your facts.

And hormones in meat don't cause mentally to grow breatsts.

Just because something is published does make it gospel.

Good.

Eat more soy,
More aspertaine
More corn syrup.

It's good for you!

>universities don't have private donations and chairs

faggots never cease to amaze.

Enjoy shooting blanks with a flaccid cock:
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2721724/
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18086792
abcnews.go.com/Health/Healthday/story?id=5438441&page=1
newscientist.com/article/dn12792-eating-soya-could-slash-mens-sperm-count/

You're trying to link soy with foods that come under controversy.

This is unfounded, and in an effort to remove the legitimacy of my point.

If something is published it's not gospel, yes.

However a meta analysis of studies is very credible.

Even if you told me this was funded by Monsanto can you find any independent studies that disprove this?

This is true, but this wasn't my point.
Soy does not cause you to become more feminine.

>lower test
>becoming less masculine
>not more feminine
Are you legit retarded senpai?

Show me the study that says it lowers testosterone.

Since you didn't even read any of the links posted here, www.google.com

I have in fact, and the only links here are ones that say soy has nothing to do testosterone production.

fertstert.org/article/S0015-0282(10)00368-7/fulltext

Also that it lowers sperm count, however, the mechanism behind this was not low T.

If you had taken the time to read any of them instead of assuming this to derail my argument, you would have known this.

You can also see, by understanding the original point that is feminizing effects of phytoestrogens, that they were found to be inconclusive, and totally unrelated to testosterone.

I also want to clarify that prenatal effects do deserve research, but as far as healthy adult males, there is nothing to prove that it acts as estrogen, or that it lowers testosterone by a significant amount.

Children, in my opinion, should not receive soy baby formula.
Even if it was only found in one or two animal models with a different mechanism behind their hormones.

>soy makes you feminine
>meat gives you bitch tits
What the fuck SHOULD I be eating then? Jesus, no wonder I've been having tranny thoughts

GOOD GOY!
EAT SOY!

There are a lot of chemicals that mimic sex hormones, and cause havoc in the body.

What I linked says certain chemicals thought to be responsible for this in soy do not effect humans in a significant manor.

>What I linked says certain chemicals thought to be responsible for this in soy do not effect humans in a significant manor.
YES! GOOD GOY!

>G.A., Edelstein
> Lichtenstein, A.H
>Hellerstein, M.K

TRUST US GOY

If you check your meat producer's practices you shouldn't have to worry about hormones at all.

What concerns me is that the FDA is very lax about this sort of thing, and there has been decreasing male testosterone every year.

I want to identify the products that are the most damaging, and ban them so children don't boys don't grow up to be feminized.

In my internet research, soy is not one of those things for healthy adult men.

>Seriously arguing about /pol/ memes
This is a new low

The thing about /pol/ memes is that people have a tendency to believe them.

Not to mention of the chemicals responsible of the activity is called genistein

I laughed more than I should have.

My hobby is pressing CTRL+F and then typing stein in articles or research that support liberals points of views.

It is pretty enlightening, especially when you recall that Jews are basically 0.000001% of the world population so it is very weird how you can always find at least 2 steins every time.

>defending eating soy

You're already a massive faggot. There's no saving you.

Genistein, the most poten phytoestrogen found in soy, has about 4% of E2's affinity for ERα, the receptor responsible for estrogen's feminizing effects.

Men normally have 0.05-0.20 μM serum E2 (17β-Estradiol), so to match the low end of innate ERα induction would require about 25 times that concentration (1.25 μM) of genistein.

90 mg/day of mixed isoflavone consumption increases serum genistein by 0.18 μM [1]. This would mean you would need to consume around 600 mg/day of soy isoflavones for hormonal effects. Tempeh, the food with the highest concentration of isoflavoes, contains 60 mg of mixed isoflavones per 100 grams [2], so you would have to eat a kilogram of tempeh to induce hormonal effects.

1. ascopubs.org/doi/abs/10.1200/jco.2002.20.6.1449?journalCode=jco
2.ars.usda.gov/ARSUserFiles/80400525/Data/isoflav/Isoflav_R2.pdf

Most of the men were fat in those studies.
Fat produces estrogen.

Japs eat soy products, like Natto (probiotic) and tempeh, other fermented soy foods, for hundreds of years and I dare you to jump in a time machine and tell some Samurai warrior he's a soi boi.

What you should be worried about is antibiotics in food and now even soil/irrigation. A whole bunch of actual scientists who don't post on anime boards have written papers and books about this problem, in fact there's an ongoing research area on intestinal bacteria called BritishGut (or americangut) americangut.org/our-results-so-far/

that's why japs make the best trannies.

You really chose the best example of feminized population.

Onions, breh.

Notice how all the "soy boy" pictures are men of a healthy weight. This is just fat neckbeard neo-Nazis sour-graping at liberal health-consciousness, even though obesity is strongly associated with lower testosterone.

...

>when being skinny as fuck and having not beard is the "healty way" but whale females shouldnt be bodyshamed because there is no healthy weight
LEFTY BTFO

>Samurai warrior
I thought the retarded naruto weebs were already btfo into submission.

Yes, be like the Japs! Eat soy!
independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/japan-sex-problem-demographic-time-bomb-birth-rates-sex-robots-fertility-crisis-virgins-romance-porn-a7831041.html