Why did people up to the 20th century think that masturbation drives you insane...

Why did people up to the 20th century think that masturbation drives you insane?And why wast tha belief so popular that even non religious doctors, and philosophers propagated that view?

It's true. Porn and masturbation are addictions, just like drugs. Their longterm effects are depression and reduced cognitive functions.

>nonstop free dopamine without effort has no effect on me guise! Don't be silly, let's watch some Rick and Morty :DDD

Well, first of all, I think it is because the social perception of it being indecent. If you were a proper gentleman you were supposed to find a place in society (job) and then marry a woman, who would then be basically forced to sexually pleasure you. Any young man who wasted his time with masturbation instead of finding a job to get a wife would be seen as basically fucking retarded.

But really this does not completely explain the outrage completely. I think the other side of the problem has to do with degeneracy. People who had warped worldviews and misattributed the reasons for why someone would masturbate from "I am bored and have like 30 minutes of free time so I might as well beat he meat" to "They must be devil worshippers". And these deranged degenerates still exist to this day. Consider this guy: This absolute troglodyte for some reason thinks that masturbation is "nonstop free dopamine". It just shines like a million suns how this person has never had a healthy relationship with his own sexuality. This is the kind of guy who demonizes his own biological imperatives for no reasons and posts on shit like like a retard. What may cause someone to become like this, I don't know. I have my opinions but they are not scientific.

t. chronic masturbater

No, maybe back in the day but now I have my girlfriend to take care of that. Also, I don't understand why you need to say that. I even said myself that masturbation is a waste of time. But there is a difference between you and me. I think it is a waste of time, but I think no ill of people who do it. You, on the other hand, have this weird vendetta against people who like to masturbate. God knows why. You fabricate stories about not masturbating making your life better (even though we know that if you are a shitty preacher on the internet your life must suck real bad). I don't understand you. Just be chill. You don't like to masturbate? Cool! Don't do it. You have no need to do it. But just stop with the nofap retardation. Not masturbating is not a personal identity. It is just a badge of honor. It is just a character trait, like any other. And maybe less than that.

*it is not a badge of honor

It's now scientifically proven to be good for you, so I guess they were wrong. Thread's over.

>yes goy keep masturbating it is totally natural for you to be a porn-addicted retard it's called being "comfortable with your sexuality" ;))))
>you're not "uncomfortable with your sexuality" right goy? ;))))
>what do you mean if porn wasn't a weapon we wouldn't have broadcasted it to palestinian children when we invaded ramallah? you don't need such pesky thoughts goy you need to go and "be comfortable with your sexuality" ;)))

>porn-addicted
Masturbation has nothing to do with porn addiction. Again, you prove to me that you've never had a healthy relationship with your own sexuality. You think masturbation is porn-addiction, maybe you were porn addicted or someone you know was. You don't even need porn to masturbate.

Just stop, please. Your nofap bullshit is even taking you down the path of /pol/. Don't go that way because if you go down that path you will find yourself being 50 having no wife, no kids, no real accomplishments in your life, and an irrational fear of basically everything. Just stop.

I think you need to wake up and see the memery you've been force-fed all your life.

I've seen the video where the guy says this, his source is literally "some guy told me" and he goes on to say that there were snipers on the rooftops keeping people indoors.
Even if it was real it sort of relies on people believing that the jews did it so it must be evil.

Well, I'm sure I masturbated thousands of times back when I was in high school and I'm a healthy college student a 3.9 GPA in pure mathematics. You wanna know what that means? Nothing. Masturbating or not masturbating affects nothing in your life (except for the wasted minutes). Stop being afraid of your own dick.

Research it further, it happened, there are genuine accounts from multiple sources. Porn is a psychological weapon that works insidiously. It's a powerful demoralizer. When Ramallah was invaded, literally the very first thing the Israeli soldiers were ordered to do is occupy the local tv stations and play hardcore porn first thing in the morning for all the children to see. If after a move like that you still think there's nothing more to porn than just a means to a dopamine release, you seriously need to rethink life.

Exhibit A: "I did well in my studies therefore there's nothing wrong with porn", one of the many things victims of this psychological assault are told to think in order to remain oblivious to what happened to them.

Well, okay. You'll live afraid of your dick all of your life. Fine with me. I will warn you though. If you are even afraid of your own dick there is 0% chance that you will ever accomplish anything in your life.

So what happened to them?
No matter what /pol/ tells you "the jews" as a collective don't have control over me or my property or even public property in my country.

I really hope you realize it one day, I really do. In our comfortable societies, there are many things we take for granted and don't think much about because we live so blissfully unaware.

Maybe you won't ever realize it, but others surely will. And I only hope more would follow suit.

>So what happened to them?
You tell me. What do you think happened to the Palestinians?

Dude. I know you think you are cool sounding so dramatic and serious but may I remind you, you are talking about masturbation. About touching your ick

>In our comfortable societies, there are many things we take for granted bla bla bla we are so blissfully unaware

That is the kind of shit you say when the economy is about to go down. Not what you say if it hurts your fee fees when someone touches their dick.

masterbation isn't fulfilling your biological imperative, it's evading it

You don't always have pussy around when you feel horny. It is your decision to do it or not, but there is nothing wrong if you decide to use your hand to ease the tension.

They went fundy retarded and started blowing themselves up to kill Israelis?

I don't see any westerners doing that because of porn sorry bud

There are a bunch of shitty blogs claiming it happened.
They can't even point to why this was evil, just "ooh it sounds spooky doesn't it"

how often should I listen to music and watch tv series?

If porn is so awful for your brain can they explain the bill of good health for people who work in the industry have? Video editors, content taggers, programmers. It's a huge industry with many people punching in at 9 and their entire job is to watch porn in some form or another.

Do you know what compliance is? It's a group of people who verify that the videos do not break any government regulations. THEY WATCH PORN ALL DAY LONG.

I understand porn addictions exist, however, there is so much baseless (((THE JEWS))) /pol/tier bro-science shit revolving around porn it's frighting because it revolves around pseudo science and blog posts *errrm* I mean "STUDIES".

What's wrong with having a good wank every now and then?

Fancy way of saying ''fap was thought as bad becouse of sociaity, but faping has no reson to be demonised and averyone who disagrees is a retard''
Kill yourself you stupid fuck, you didnt gave any actual arguments just said fapping is ok and people who say its bad are idiots, the fact is raserch suggests not masturbating causes incrase in testestarone in males, which incrases competativness and strenght also agression, the fact that west has so many ways to get high in place of sex is which is why it has low birth rate and why midle easterners entering Europe are reproducing in much higher numbers.

Don't you think it was to assert dominance? Kind of like when a site gets hacked they post pictures of dicks? I don't understand how you can assert such a baseless claim, of an account people aren't even sure happened, on the fucking SCIENCE BOARD.

>Research it further
Where is your proof? You are supposed to convince ME. All the nofappers in here have ZERO evidence of this being fact. They seem to have nothing but lofi infographics from ghetto personal blogs.

Nope, that's not what I meant. Please read it again but this time turn your brain on.

You're retarded, literally anything that makes you happy gives you "free dopamine". That's everything from eating something nice, to reminiscing about a happy memory, to beating one out.

>becouse
>reson

you're an idiot.

eating nice (healthy food) is good, fast food instead is bad addiction
reminiscing about a happy memory is good, consuming "fake memories" called fiction instead of it is bad
having healthy relationship with tons of sex is good for you, stroking your penis alone in dark room looking at moving pictures is not healthy addiction

you get the point?

1.I speak 4 languages
2.I have dyslexia
3.English is not my native language

fast food is pretty healthy these days
manufactured experiences develop your mind, clinging to the small subset you categorize as real is what rots your brain and produce bigoted brainlets
sexual release is always good and there are few things that I would like to know less than what passes for healthy relationships among cucks these days

thank you for your effort but my farts have more point than your post

>Addiction
Who's talking about addiction? Not me. Seems like you've got quite an unhealthy relationship with your body desu. Don't worry about it, there are plenty of beta males around today with the same issues. I'd encourage you to get help, but from experience I know that you won't.

How did you manage to learn 4 languages while being dylexic?

I have problems with grammar not speech i was able to learn 4 languages by listening not reading.

Russian spy.

Actually, it's scientifically proven that it's bad for you, so I guess you're wrong. Thread's over.

nah dude im Latvian

Let me guess: you are a muslim and masturbation is bad because your religion forbids it. And if you can't get something, no one else should.

First that's not very specific. "People" up to the 20th century. What people, all people, everywhere?

I sincerely doubt the vast majority of humanity thought masterbation drove you insane for all of human history until the 20th century.

That's not what you're saying, but the premise is so vague that it's almost the same as if you did.

And you're equating porn with masterbation, via your pic, as if they would have the same or a similar effect on society, without any proof of that relationship either.

Not the user you replied to but only becouse someone condemns it dosen't mean they are relligious i am an ''atheist'' and dont beleave in higher power but i do see why masturbation could be damaging to sociaities (less to induviduals) on my opinion the resoult of socity allways getting what they whant (which is plesure) either that be drugs alchahol or masturbation is reson why welthier nations have less children, also masturbation causes men to become more femine.

>HURR Y is used for X and X is bad, therefore Y is bad!
What a specious argument.

when i was watching a lot of hardcore gonzo stuff real women became substantially less attractive to me.

People look for simple answers to their complex problems.

Because if you stop masturbating you're going to stop being a loser and become the next Bill Gates.

>the fact is raserch suggests not masturbating causes incrase in testestarone in males

only for a few days and then T levels drop, long term no-fap is retarded.

Disagree, no fapping will make you more willing and motivated to get a girlfrend and start a family like it was happening in most of west before fall of christianity (that condemned masturbation)

You can't disagree with the science. T levels go up for roughly a week afer climaxing and then rapidly go down the longer you hold a nut

Jfc, this thread
The nofap squad are worse than vegans for shoving their ideology down everyone's throats.

Unironically this, I have yet to see one decent oeer-reviewed study vouching for nofap.

It makes male ''horrny'' that no sexual acts of any kind are made which in the end will turn you more try to make woman statistics say that amish have most children then any other group why is that?Becose their people condemn masturbation and make males more competative sex in the only way of geting dopanine for those people.