Why are so many STEMtards, especially those into pic related, so confidently clueless about philisophy?

I think DeGrease is not clueless, but maybe he is incoherent:

youtube.com/watch?v=A5jK5s5X0jg

Yes, some popular scientists lack respect for philosophy. They think "Philosophy is the mother of science" is a reivindication, but hell no, is just an historical fact and not that relevant.

"Philosophy is dead" is another popular line.

Many scientists understand about philosophy:

quantamagazine.org/physicists-and-philosophers-debate-the-boundaries-of-science-20151216

I disagree. Philosophy is just another subject, with concepts, and interaction. It has little to do with 'thinking' or 'truth', in my experience. And with this, most philosophy is useless / inaccurate in content. Especially modern philosophy that abuses science, trying to squeeze it into terms of said useless / inaccurate content (that it largely inherits from the long-past).

The difference between Science and Philosophy is that Science limits its scope to the 'easy' questions -- ones which might actually have solutions!!
Why do things fall down, why doesn't the Moon fall, why do the stars shine? It's done quite well in the past few hundred years.

Philosophy goes back thousands of years. And how many of its "big issues" have been resolved? Not conversant with all philosophies from all world cultures but, offhand, can't think of any. They're entirely negative, chiding Science for avoiding Morality and The Purpose of Life and the Universe and Everything. (Which we know, of course, to be '42') The rest of it seems to be inconclusive hair-splitting speculation.

I think it's quite natural for people in fields which work to be dismissive of fields which don't work. Astrology, homeopathy, and even some purported 'sciences' which stand on shaky ground. Some days I even fear physics may be teetering on the edge with M-theory, the Multiverse, and the Strong Anthropic Principle. Maybe they're right -- but I see no immediate prospect of finding solutions, which is how I defined the boundary between Science and Philosophy.

The truth that philosophy is worthless?

More-so than other disciplines, I mean.

fpbp

The very human assumption that all thoughts are of roughly equivalent quality.

Because most of them are people with zero scientific motivation or vocation who joined a STEM field only for money and they believe that automatically turns them into scientists and intellectuals

Well, people are born uneducated, it's normal.

All science can do is measure mass of electron, it can't say anything on higher level matter, but there are truth there too and only philosophy can approach them, it's science that has nothing to do with truth in those fields.

>philisophy

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Philosophy is retarded, the less people 'study' the better
Philosophy faggots should be permabanned on this board.

I fucking hate Neil Smoke Degrass Tyrone SO MUCH! Why do people worship this nigger????? He's literally retarded, seeing as how he's a nigger and all. SO ANNOYING

All the philosophy faggots in my uni are more autistic than all of Veeky Forums combined

>can't think of any
Off the top of my head: world is material, common is rational, post-structuralism is the way.
>Morality and The Purpose of Life
These are problems of science - psychology, and solved already.

>Why do people worship this nigger?????
Because he has an average intelligence by human standards. For a nigger, this is like being Newton or von Neumann.

Philosophy is usually learned with theoretical physics, and many STEMtards learn neither.

> These are problems of science - psychology
>and solved already.
Can't decide at what line should I laugh the most

Most of those statements are reasonable, ignoring the obvious meme "im a redditor and depths of my intellect" comments.

Since when science supports transgender rights?

>lack of vision and always looking to the past
>defining themselves with these things
the marks of a pseud

>other stated goals of the Frankfurt School that are definiyely not made up include the increase of poverty, increase of crying children, the decrease of tasty food, and the destruction of all life on Earth

Whoever stores that pic on their phone is truly mentally sick.

Based Jews.

Maybe if youre incredibly clever you can succed without philosophy. I know for sure i would be a mess if not for my interest in philosophy (131 IQ from mensa online test).

>Solved already
Genuinely, please enlighten me user

So sick of teenagers posting here.

STEM people are into concrete facts. Things that can be measured and proven.

Philosophy is literally the opposite of that.
Remember, all science started out as philosophy, until people figured out how to test it.
If there's still no way to prove you ideas through experimentation and observation, congrats, you're a philosopher.

Philosophy is about coming up with questions.
Science is about coming up with answers.

STEM people want to solve practical problems, not waste time thinking about whether God can create himself.

You have to be 18yo to post here

>STEM people
>people

Athiesm and science have nothing to do with eachother.

>shilling the idea of drug use to people that don't need it to feel better about yourself.

>Just says there is no god because all the other redditors are athiest

>Being a smug piece of shit that doesn't add anything to society.

>Not knowing why you're cancer.
Reddit.

I would broaden this to say that STEM fields are very much about concrete applications of knowledge.

If someone spends their time doing science, many philosophical questions probably never entered their head to begin with. They probably view a philosophical question as a proposal for an experiment, and any particularly abstract concept which no bearing in reality might just sound completely inane. Using your own example of thinking whether God can create himself; it's not testable, so who fucking cares. But, it might have more meaning to someone who has spent a lot of time exploring the thoughts of ancient thinkers who genuinely explored questions like that.

But this is just my perspective as someone who took about 12 low-level philosophy credits before diving into Biochemistry.

>not having your major be something in STEM and read philosophy books in your free time

Please, read this

qz.com/960303/bill-nye-on-philosophy-the-science-guy-says-he-has-changed-his-mind/amp/

Get fucked.

rip haters

This article doesn't prove that the problem of morality or the purpose of life have been solved, it just says that Bill Nye accept that philosophy has its merits, something I'm sure none of us would disagree with.

>has to bring up trump even in this interview
obsessed

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What was I supposed to gain from this?

It saddens me to think that people actually believe this graphic isn't absolutely retarded.

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Both columns are gay desu

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what i've realized is that in my campus, it is not only the stem that is retarded about philosophy, also every other fucker that only gets the average grades in their exams.
This leads me to the conclusion that, the less you like philosophy the less creative and critical you are.
i fucking loved it, fun as shit, i only hated remembering the names of the fuckers, it is enough for me to remember the theories and shit.

I'm from /pol/ and I think this graphic is retarded.

> I'm from /pol/
Your kin is not welcome in this board. Time to go back

No. I do what I want.

By chance, do you even work in a scientific field? Physics? Chemistry? Biology?

or are you just a boomer who fell in love with The Bell Curve

We are very patient. One day this board will be ours.

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Science is based on logic
Philosophy is based on reasoning
You can prove what water is made of, a building block of life, but you can’t prove the purpose or justification of life. Philosophy is mainly deductive reason and observation but also has factors of faith needed in it. Science changes constantly and old ideas are thrown away for new ones.

Why can't Veeky Forums and /pol/ be friends?

Because no intelligent person belives in autism and pseudoscience like you /pol/cucks do

But /pol/ is not one person.

Yeah because /pol/turds are not people

Well, that's dehumanization, a very /pol/lack behavior.

Because science works via empirical falsification which means to prove something, you need to try disproving it. Politics is filled with assumptions which needs to be proven. Marxism cannot prove the labor class outrage. Capitalists can’t prove how privatization is better than public ownership.

/pol/ and Veeky Forums can be friends only if we realize that the burden of proof lies in the hands of people who try their best to disprove something without inducing their opinions in it. In some ways /pol/ and Veeky Forums can work together to make this world a better place if we put aside our differences and work to a common goal.

Also This graphic is the stupidest shit ever and I hope /pol/ stops using it to pat themselves in the back about how they have a moral high ground here.

>Because science works via empirical falsification which means to prove something, you need to try disproving it.
Only if you are a Popperite. Science does not work only by modus tollens. Here is a good read on the verification and truth in the natural sciences is:
amazon.com/Science-Partial-Truth-Scientific-Philosophy/dp/019515651X/ref=asap_bc?ie=UTF8

Because most colleges, universities, and high schools aren't doing a good job of educating people. A large amount of STEM degrees aren't worth all that much anymore (especially those in the easier fields).

The other part is that the STEMtards who do that are either really shit scientists or don't actually have a science education