Can I please make my very reasonable case that this shit never happened.
The Launch itself was CGI and the car was LITERALLY a miniature model toy car with a picture of the earth lit up behind it.
I could have recreated the same shit myself in my room in 15 minutes, how can so many people believe this shit? Does the car even look real to you? Why is the stream so fucking blurry? Its not even possible to stream a car floating in random directions to earth in real time.
The Tesla Cars and Trucks seem to be real, but this guy is milking it with all this nonsense Bruv.
That's what they want you to think ;) try thinking for yourself OP
Jack Cox
obviously not real, world isn't flat.
Carter Wilson
>> I could have recreated the same shit myself in my room in 15 minutes You have 15 minutes starting now to recreate it
Ryder Lopez
Allow it bruv. You know what I mean, if I had that toy car and a little light up earth and a dark room.
Oliver Scott
and I could do the CGI ting with 3 hours in adobe after effects.
Its a shame because now we won't know what to believe from this guy. Since you can buy the cars, we know they're real, but how do we know his next car won't be some exaggerated or made up bullshit?
Tyler King
Except for a few thousand spectators who watched the launch. Or do you maintain the crowds were all CGI too?
Can I make a very reasonable case that you should resume taking your meds?
Ryan Davis
That's not much of a case. You've made a few statements and claims with no reasons or examples or proof. So... yet another point of pollution. Please go back to /x/ or /b/ or wherever this kind of kiddie stuff is fun.
Asher Torres
The crowds are on it. The rocket was launched but crashed into impenetrable heaven sky. The telescopes are not real. The 6th grade dropouts unironically believing the earth is flat will claim everything is fake and CGI and will never provide a single piece of proof to backup their claims. They're brainlets, all of them. None of them know anything about science or photography and ask the same dumb questions over and over again, can't do simple experiments to prove themselves wrong while the scholars in ancient greece could.
Jayden Rogers
Your 15 minutes are up, post your recreation now.
Jose Richardson
Go back to LDN where you belong, dickhead loool. What are you even doing on this board?
>smart people only
Robert Torres
The funny thing about you people is that you're so dumb you're incapable of perceiving being dumb. It's funny because if you were even remotely capable of understanding that you're dumb, you would get smarter eventually by challenging your own claims in an intelligent manner. But somehow, you're trapped in this trap where you're so dumb you're essentially susceptible to any false claim, as long as your sense of animalistic pride is preserved. Very fascinating.
Jace Phillips
Nobody is stopping you from going there yourself to watch, poorfag.
Carter Smith
>huuurrrr seeing rocket fly is the same as seeing a stupid car flying in space
Yeah, we know rockets exist, the point is that it's the space part that is the fake shit, you know, the place that us plebians can't actually see or visit, so we have to rely on dumb green screen shit and you all lap it up because of fucking star wars and other sci-fi pleb shit
Isaac Stewart
>You know what I mean You mean you're a blowhard braggart, whose only skill is shitposting? Yeah, okay.
Michael White
Notice the many times the continents and only continents it seems " some suspiciously missing country's and islands " seem to have a blurry diarrhea consistantcy? At one point you can see large blurred out pixelation glitching rapidly from position and color.
Juan Evans
Notice the many time bubbles were visible in the live stream? Bubbles can't happen in space bros and they wouldn't always go up if they could.
Bentley Allen
I was there
Asher Morris
Funny, because Musk even said you can tell it is real because of how fake it looks. We have better cgi than that!
Aiden Sullivan
Spacex has spent more money and man hours on rockets than any movie studio has ever spent on a film yet these retards think they can't even come up with more convincing CGI than some home video.
Ethan Rogers
Awesome.
Wyatt Lee
It is the same thing as coconuts for horse hoof sounds in movies. People didn't believe the real sounds were real after so many years of fake sounds. I spent like half an hour explaining why there's no stars in the videos to a friend. In the end, the friend just thinks I'm an idiot even though I have a camera and showed how it happens live.
You don't just see it though. You hear it and feel it. That shit's so loud it's like a thousand freight trains going by. I've never felt a hologram.
Jaxon Walker
>Does the car even look real to you?
It's not a real car, it's a Tesla.
Jaxson Brown
>plebeians can't see space
Ask h I know you've never been outside.
Xavier Collins
Speakers in the ground you dolt. How can you be this fucking ignorant.
Christian Allen
>the launch itself was CGI And they paid tens of thousands of actors, from the people watching from every nearby area in Florida, all the way up to the engineers that worked on it to say they saw it take off. For what purpose exactly? What does anyone gain from doing that? If the Earth was flat and space didnt exist, how does not telling us that we are trapped in an impenetrable dome make us any easier to control?
Conspiracy theories are always good with how, very few have reasonable reasons why.
Brandon Lopez
>forgetting the hundreds of thousands of paid shills in the Southwester US who "saw" the second stage burn
underrated
Brandon Mitchell
because if the earth isn’t a flat enclosed area, we all go from being the most intelligent center in the greatest creation, to be being some minuscule unimportant clusters of randomness getting hurled around at x speeds in a space we can’t imagine; it devalues you my guy, we’re worth more than the “same 5 elements” that’s in some “Star a billion miles away”
Parker Carter
No OP it's too stupid to not be real.
Seriously why. It's as crazy as thinking humans will one day live happily on Mars. OH WAIT
Nicholas Smith
then do it yourself faggot
Kevin Flores
>The Tesla Cars and Trucks seem to be real
Dipshit, you're expressing metered skepticism over the existence of a type of car that you can literally find on the sidewalks of most urban metropoli
nothing you're 'skeptical about' has any value. kill yourself
Jose Bennett
How about they fucking use a camera with good enough exposure to show the fucking stars? The fact they've never done this is very fishy
John Bell
Are YOU trying to say NASA would lie to us? Get out of here. Next you will say the moon landing was a hoax and the Van Allen belt was not there back in 69 lmao
Noah Powell
Forget the car, The whole thing was as fake as WWE.
Henry Edwards
Lol find a fucking camera with DR above 20 f-stops, let alone close to the human eye which is closer to 30 f-stops Most cameras aren't even a fraction as good as the human eye due to limits in sensor tech, even our best CMOS and CCD sensors suck
Wyatt Kelly
>I distrust science cause I'm scared of feeling like a bitch Fuck off with that pussy, if being small makes you feel insecure and demoralized, then you have issues
Hudson King
>in my room in 15 minutes just doing this lame shitpost took you several days
Kevin Scott
>how many logical fallacies can i fit into a single argument
Nolan King
>Does the car even look real to you? Yes. >Why is the stream so fucking blurry? You don't get high bandwidth realtime data links at 7000km. >Its not even possible to stream a car floating in random directions to earth in real time. Why wouldn't it be? Also, it wasn't floating in random directions, the second stage was rotating along its axis to slow cook the exterior an it was traveling in a circular arc around the plane. The direction was completely predictable.
So this is all just your personal incredulity. Which proves nothing.
Kayden Thomas
We can't deny that we are shit to the universe, that shouldn't affect you in any meaningful way either, because the universe should be shit to you, it's only there to be observed and studied (maybe conquered in the future). Just do something meaningful for the people you care down here on earth.
Jeremiah Kelly
So it comes down to ego? That's all it is? The universe can't be real or else I would feel less significant?
William White
Did anyone think maybe the car was some wild idea to throw the whole general public off what was really going down, and the government may have loaded some new experimemental satellite on it instead in a deep trajectory, forget the car, falcon heavy definetly launched something, but it wasnt a tesla roadster.
Kayden Martin
No, there was definitely only a roadster in that payload fairing.
Lincoln Allen
>*it was a hologram* >*teleports behind you* >pshhh.....the earth is flat kid.....
Lucas Butler
So lets say what you claim is true. Space doesnt exist and we are the most valuable beings ever created. Now what? The government still controls everything and there is still nothing you can do about it. Why would they bother with lazer holograms and billions of dollars in paid actors? Why not just say “yeah space travel isnt economically feasible right now, we are going to stop trying for a bit”. You see how your story is full of holes?
Nathaniel Fisher
>Space isn't real cause muh ego yeah alright
Cameron Robinson
W E W E W
L A D A D
Carson Garcia
>space industry has millions of dollars of funding >random fucktard on the net nuts it out in 5 minutes >mfw
Evan Barnes
why the fuck do people still reply to shit like this. We all know sci is either brainlets trolling or people genuinely wanting to discuss shit.
And its mostly the former generally. we may as well be on fucking /b/
Aiden Garcia
Occam's razor is fake too, you know. "They" want you to think that the simplest explanation is the most probably true explanation, but it isn't man, it just isn't.
Blake Taylor
It makes sense though, either >earth is flat, all governments, space agencies, and companies involoved are hiding it because reasons.
or
>the earth isn't flat.
Logan Clark
not to mention space x used goddamn 4k red cameras on the roadster rig, downsampling to 1080p for live transmission, some of the best cameras you can buy for money, and not even these are capable to do this.
Mason Martin
It was way below 1080p.
Jonathan Nelson
Still waiting on your recreation, mate. You're 20 hours and 45min overdue.
Its easy to talk a big game untill someone calls you out. Your "reasonable case" is now just another irrational rant from an uninformed little man who thinks way too highly of himself.
Kayden Butler
don't forget photos are apparently worthless as evidence for the oblate spheroid earth. Theres no proof against the flat earth theory for conspiritards, only more evidence of the conspiracy.
Justin Harris
I say "little man" figuratively. I'm sure you're anything but little.
John Stewart
Did they really? That seems like a waste.
Landon Sullivan
God I love satire, it keeps me from offing myself
Camden Edwards
>Did anyone think muh conspiracy? Maybe a few delusional crackpot paranoid schizophrenics, like you; but mostly no.
Joshua Perry
IT'S ALL REAL
YOU ARE JUST FUCKING BRAINLETS
IMAGINE BEING BTFO THIS HARD
FLAT EARTHERS ON SUICIDE WATCH
Tyler Cooper
This basically explains all conspiracy theories, people like to feel that humans are in control of everything.
Lucas Perez
Humans are in control of things, it's just a very small minority that have a stranglehold on this control.
Also, people saying it's just ego to think we are at the center of the universe, I think it takes more ego to think we are not at the center, and that we're just a complete fluke. People who like to think this do so, so they appear as if they're strong, tough and logical. That's pure ego too.
Gabriel Miller
its in the marketing budget, peanuts for spacex and tesla. these red cameras have a superb dynamic range, but not even these come close to replicate what a human eye would see in the same conditions. the president of RED said that the sensor is a "very special custom S35 low light sensor. they have put into the cameras, the same sensors already used on the iss red cameras.
Adam Foster
They don't have a stranglehold. It's just that the people being held don't resist at all. >ok, let me continue to always interact with this notorious liar in good faith because calling someone a liar or even questioning their obvious BS is poor office etiquette and nothing is more important than my paycheck
Adam Garcia
at first glance it might be, but remember that space x keeps the 4k recordings. maybe later they will release them to the public.
Jacob Foster
> I could have recreated the same shit myself in my room in 15 minutes You have 15 minutes starting now to recreate it in your room.
>I could do the CGI ting with 3 hours in adobe after effects. You have 15 minutes starting now to recreate it in adobe after effects.
I'm waiting.
Andrew Butler
Can you musk dick riders at least admit that the footage COULD have been faked? That it is not conclusive proof that it actually happened? I thought you fuckers were scientists? You should be the type of people who require the most stringent of standards when it comes to evidence, otherwise you're letting people get away with ridiculous shit.
Levi Gomez
...ok, in theory could, but its easier to launch a fucking rocket into space. >That it is not conclusive proof that it actually happened? Multiple people from different places (with the right equipment) were able to see the accent of the rocket. Hell it was able to be seen from the middle of mexico
Aaron Martin
MMMMMMM...nom,nom,nom....b8
Adrian Cooper
MUH HOLOGRAPHIC PICTURES OF ROCKEST
Caleb Parker
NASA, Russia, European Union, China & Japan accepts that the Earth is round.
Even Conservative heroes as Donald Trump congratulates Musk for his achievement.
Flattard Logic: >It must be fake. Earth is Flat. >All planets are round except Earth. >Earth is 6000 years old. >Jesus walked above water. >Evolution is a Lie. >Newton & Einstein are wrong >Math is useless. >Everything Bible says is true.
Ian James
No one disputes rockets exist, they don't need to fake launching a rocket, that part will trick the plebs watching it live.
The question is whether the rocket actually goes into space and launches a car. That part is taken on faith, unless you can provide conclusive proof it actually happened?
>NASA, Russia, European Union, China & Japan accepts that the Earth is round.
Of course they do! They wouldn't have their power without it now would they?
Landon Ross
>That part is taken on faith, unless you can provide conclusive proof it actually happened? Get a powerful enough telecope, go into the right place in the earth, and point it in the direction where the car is. you WILL find it.
Robert Hill
>All planets are round except Earth.
Provide photographic evidence that other celestial "bodies" are spherical WITHOUT resorting to NASA cgi.
>Earth is 6000 years old.
Who gives a shit how old it is, we can't really know that anyway
>Jesus walked above water.
Flat earth != to religion. Flat earth may imply creationism of sorts, doesn't mean it's religious.
>Evolution is a Lie.
It's pseudo-scientific nonsense. Designed to make people feel like a fluke, made of non-conscious matter arranging itself.
>Newton & Einstein are wrong
God forbid they could be wrong! Science is about proving itself wrong dummy, you are what's wrong with it.
>Math is useless.
Math is not useless, it's simply a language. It can be useful, and useless, depending on how it's used.
>Everything Bible says is true.
Nope. Most "flat earthers" aren't religious, just people who think critically against everything, including religion.
Parker Scott
There's no evidence of flat Earth.
Nathan Edwards
There's overwhelming evidence. Start this video @ 5:17 and ask yourself who it is that believes things without evidence. youtube.com/watch?v=SznaMGoMR9Q&
Grayson Harris
>Provide photographic evidence that other celestial "bodies" are spherical WITHOUT resorting to NASA cgi Ground Telescopes. Even amateurs telecopes can see Jupiter & it's largest 4 moons (Io, Ganimedes, Calisto, Europa) Pic related
They are rotating so they aren't flat disks, they are spheres.
Justin Walker
They look flat. Provide amateur footage of them rotating.
Easton Brown
first of all, what would you call evidence of them rotating?
Fucking do it yourself. It's not that hard. Basically any decent telescope let you see it.
Also the moon has precession. If you actually look at it day by day, you will see areas at the poles gradually appear and disappear at the other end. It's not much(2° or so), but it's visible, and therefore plenty documented.
Kevin Brooks
>no nothing Whaaaa?
Michael Wright
NOW YOU'RE THINKING WITH PORTALS!
Ayden Anderson
>I can't find evidence of rotation so I'll just say it's really easy to see it and to do it yourself
You actually believe the moon is "tidally locked", it rotates at such a perfect speed that it only shows one "side" of itself.
And you also believe it's just coincidence that the moon and sun are the same size in the sky despite their dramatic differences in size and distances. And that they orbit at the perfect points in the sky that they cover each other during an eclipse. Just a coincidence... Bitch please!
Henry Nguyen
You just pulled that out of your ass didn't you?
Benjamin Walker
>get on plane >see curvature of earth
Whoa dude, no proof at all!
Were you ever on a plane you poor retarded shit?
Nicholas Smith
Do you understand tidal force? I highly doubt it. Eclipses seem to prove the moon is flat. Please elaborate.
Connor Gray
By this time, there is not a ground-based telescope that could resolve something that small at that distance.
Hudson Carter
Yes
Ryan Davis
You can't see curvature on a plane in the globe model either you dip!
If you think you saw curvature, you either tricked yourself because you expected to see it, or the plane windows created slight curvature of the horizon.
The horizon is called the horizon for a reason. It's flat. It always is, and will always remain at eye level no matter how high you go: youtube.com/watch?v=WQITXbcz2hg
Landon Anderson
>1 day and 4 hours later. Still no recreation OP, looks like you're a big fat phony.
Andrew Watson
Here's a pretty good illustration of the moon being spherical. As months go by, and it moves from apogee to perigee, the moon "wobbles" a bit in its orientation with Earth, and we can see a bit more than half of it over time.
Grayson Ross
>Do you understand tidal force?
I guarantee you don't understand it either because no one does. It's sci-fi bullshit taken on faith.
>Eclipses seem to prove the moon is flat. Please elaborate.
That's not the argument. Heliocentrism requires that there was a big bang which exploded random energy everywhere. Therefore the behaviour of the moon and sun in our sky is based purely on chance. Give me a fucking break.