>went into college before I was ready >I should have joined the military right after high school or something >since I had no life experience, I let my grades slip and now have no chance at getting into grad school
Is my literary career over before it could even begin?
Joseph Jackson
do well on the GRE and get away from this place
Blake Cook
>3.3 GPA and no relationships with profs to get recommendations
Even a great GRE score will probably only get me into some mid-tier uni. There's no point if I can't get into an Ivy/Stanford
Liam Howard
>since I had no life experience, I let my grades slip and now have no chance at getting into grad school
HAHAHAHAHA
I literally had no friends and didn't talk to any of my class mates and still got a 1st. git gud.
Nolan Brooks
you're just rationalizing your failure. do you think all authors went to Author School where they learned to read and write?
Asher Clark
first of all, I can't think of any great american authors who went to an average school. They either went to a top tier uni or none at all. second, the only way to make a living as a writer is to be a professor at a uni. And the only way to be a credible professor is by going to an Ivy.
Andrew Hill
If it's experience you need, work and go back to school later.
Noah Martinez
You are a dickless whiner. Fuck off.
Tyler Ortiz
>literary >career
Adrian Turner
would that be doable after I get my BS?
Anthony Johnson
same boat bro, i got brainwashed by marxists and stopped caring about having a career, then i graduated and remembered why careers are useful...now my only hope is starting a business...thank god for capitalism
Gabriel Ward
>end of sophomore year at midtier LAC >3.0 GPA >good relationship with a couple professors (strained by late essays and spotty attendance) >no research/intern type experience Can I turn it around?
Luke Miller
>since I had no life experience, I let my grades slip Worst excuse I've ever heard tbphwy. Most people go straight from school to university, and it doesn't mean they do badly.
Liam Wright
>careers are useful You were sunk before you even entered the water
Luke Butler
>tfw got my BA with a 2.3 GPA and didn't even really want to go to grad school or law school anyway but now that I'm in the real world I regret not doing better
Aaron Mitchell
School is worth almost nil for a writer these days. It's all simon-says, dick riding prevailing literary theory and parroting professors, which never produces anything lasting or worthwhile. Look at all the ivy grad/highly educated authors who are literal garbage tier pseuds for evidence... Joyce Carol Oates, Margaret Atwood, Jonathan Safran Foer, etc.
Here is what you do... >graduate with whatever degree you want >get a job that gives you a fair amount of free time or access to interesting experiences. If you can't get a job be a traveling hobo or sleep in your parents basement. >Don't spend your time inside in the privacy of your room. Spend most of your time out in the world. >Read a ton of books, at least one per week, preferably two. Just get a library card, you don't even have to spend money. >pick a few books to read and reread over and over again. This will affect your prose style so pick someone you want to imitate. Good choices would be the KJV Bible, Moby Dick, The Great Gatsby/Tender is the Night, or The Complete Works of William Shakespeare. >Work through the great authors, if they aren't dead yet, don't even bother, very little advancement has been made in literature since Joyce, so you wouldn't be missing much anyway. >write at least 2,000-3,000 words per day. >Try out some writing groups in your city where you can get feedback on your stories and constructive criticism.
I guarantee in 5 years or less you would have something worth publishing. Most writers are lazy and wait for the "muse." They are wrong. It's a muscle, the more you exercise it the better it becomes at doing heavy lifting.
Austin Richardson
Stop, you are literally me
Henry Sanchez
To be fair, I dont think OP's trying to excuse himself. Hes just admitting his own failures. I'm the same way; I was indolent and hard-headed in my first two years and I failed because of it.
Samuel Mitchell
You can go to an upper tier pac-10 or acc school, user. Stanford, Berkeley, UCLA, UNC, UVA, Duke, Wake, BC... and still be aok. Just do well in your MA program wherever you go, test well, and you'll get into a good school. My sister got your level grades at a shit school, went to Hunter College for MA, Columbia for Ph.D. It can be done.
Gabriel Brown
>Is my literary career over before it could even begin? >he actually believes that academia creates great writers
Levi King
>>went into college before I was ready >>I should have joined the military right after high school or something Agreed. I feel so lost because I forced myself to follow a path I never wanted to take.
Tyler Ramirez
Good guy user is right.
Lincoln Perry
>>pick a few books to read and reread over and over again. This will affect your prose style so pick someone you want to imitate. Good choices would be the KJV Bible, Moby Dick, The Great Gatsby/Tender is the Night, or The Complete Works of William Shakespeare. >>Work through the great authors, if they aren't dead yet, don't even bother, very little advancement has been made in literature since Joyce, so you wouldn't be missing much anyway. This shit discredits the rest of your post
Owen Brown
>he wants to be a professor at a uni Dude, don't bother. Modern universities are job training schools. If you really want to learn, you'll be able to do it by yourself.
Dominic Martinez
Holy FUCK down to the digits... just know you're not alone m8 we are toughing this harsh world together
Luke Green
Name ONE (1) thing that you can learn at college that can't be learned by yourself
And don't say "networking", you're all friendless virgins
Chase Barnes
I'm going to dig ditches until I kill myself and I don't know if I would have preferred to do anything else
Lucas Rivera
>literary career keep chasing the approval of others
Xavier Thompson
You could literally go pack a bag RIGHT NOW and go on a On The Road esque adventure hitchhiking across the USA. The only thing holding you back is you.
Just admit it, you were never gonna make it
Adrian Butler
>thinking people pick up hitchhikers in the 21st century >thinking people want to read a shitty postmodern on the road
nice meme
Dominic Jackson
>was fucking up my undergrad degree completely >dropped, switched, got an honors degree in a better major >feels good to live in a country with free education smug_frog.jpg
Caleb Lopez
All I read are excuses, user
Jace Hill
You mentioned the military... Officer training school. Go Air Force, your chances of actually making something of yourself and obtaining useful skills are exponentially higher that way. From a fellow user though, the military sucks. But it's a damn good stepladder, and the officer side is way better than the enlisted side if you've got the mind for it. Maybe even go to the academy if they'll let you, it's fairly prestigious I think. But that's pretty shit unless you're just gung ho military.
Jack Long
>Google what type of professors make the most money >land on finance >currently getting my phd in finance
my only advice is that you have to be obsessed with what you're studying. It has to be your magnificent obsession. Talk to every single person about your work, spend your free time reading about it more, talk to drunk girls at the bar about your studies (they'll actually love it if you're passionate fyi) but yeah. You sound like you don't really care about what you 'want' to do with your life. You want it to be easy but it ain't mate.
Grayson Hernandez
I pick up hitchhikers all the time.
Robert Miller
let me know when you make it out of your mom's basement
Gavin Taylor
do a second bachelors from some foriegn mid tier uni and then grad school in ivy
Cooper Sanders
You don't need any university education for a literary career. Only stupid people think that.
Ethan Turner
the thing is...there are people with "good degrees" who never amount to anything. if you're a loser, getting a degree from a top tier school isn't going to matter, you'll just end up being a department chair at a community college in the middle of no where or being a perma adjunct at some mega campus with 50,000 students
Adam Gray
>perma adjunct at some mega campus with 50,000 students And people would literally kill for that job, that's how desperate some people are to work in academia.
Noah Johnson
>college >required for literature user that's retarded
Gabriel Davis
Literally make $180k a year to read off of a lesson plan you found online at a mega campus
Nicholas Rivera
>$180k >adjunct Try $18k
Isaac Lewis
best advice
Leo Peterson
>being this wrong
now i'm starting to doubt you've attended higher ed at all
Levi Williams
I didn't I'm a retard bro No u
Nathaniel Carter
>first of all, I can't think of any great american authors who went to an average school Faulkner (the greatest American author) was a D student at a below average public state school.
Jackson Jenkins
yeah but faulkner got affirmative action for being a southern whiteboy at a time when all the great culture was coming from new england it still is
Michael Gutierrez
>The only thing holding you back is you. That and a biological need for food.
Luis Morris
What are your plans? I don't even think I have the right temperament for grad school but it should at least be an option
Sebastian Hernandez
How no one your age in your circumstances has any hope of becoming an adult in the old sense
Adam Thomas
>implying there's anything wrong with New England holding control over the country New England is real America and it's culture should be considered true white American culture. Only WASPs should have any power for the betterment of this country.
Jacob Jones
Have you ever been to the Berkshires? The real NE is dissolute, disgusting. The cities are nice but that's only because they're cosmopolitan
Brody Allen
>Is my literary career over before it could even begin? buddy your "literary career" was over when you stared posting on Veeky Forums
Aiden Sullivan
>And the only way to be a credible professor is by going to an Ivy.
That's empirically wrong. Prove your worth through writing something that people in your field care about. That's the real method, regardless of where you studied.
Ryan Jenkins
This is the correct answer, OP. Except for the imitation bit. I would take that as a caution rather than a prescription. That is: read only good shit, stay away from genre toxins as they will take years to shit out. Veeky Forums is actually pretty good at posting quality recommendations in the shelf threads.
Stop being lazy.
Easton Wright
The same could be said for any non-wealthy rural or suburban area of the world.
Hudson Perry
>and now have no chance at getting into grad school does it really matter? I sucked in my undergrad but still got accepted into grad school. Just do a master in whatever university accepts you, do well enough and apply for a PhD where you would to study.
> I can't think of any great american authors who went to an average school
I can think of a few who didn't go to school at all, but that's besides the point. Sometimes people set their expectations way too high. This make it seem there is no point in writing unless you become one of the great american authors, and your masterpieces become matter of study in the future. I believe that as long as you like your job and get enough money to get along you're doing fine. Don't bother in become "one of the great writers," rather worry about living a good life - remember that praise is worth nothing when they are told over your tomb.
Dominic Phillips
Jack London
Nolan Nguyen
Calm down, Lovecraft
Kevin Sullivan
Same thing. >GPA 3.3; Major GPA 3.5 >Didn't realize I wanted to go to grad school. >Only have one potential reference. I'll either join the military or go to a mid-level uni for my Master's, perhaps both.
Carter Torres
>Hate school >Need a degree for any chance of a decent career
Would most likely fail hard even if I went, guess I have to fix my problem of not giving a shit about life at all first though.
Jaxon Carter
Exactly my point
Adam Bennett
Still not too late to join the military, OP. How about getting with the program? Why don't you jump on the team and come on in for the big win?
Angel Ortiz
>tfw it is too late for me to join the Navy Why did I go straight to college?
Lincoln Fisher
What exactly do you mean by "decent career?"
Landon Martin
A career I can earn good money at.
The culture means I have to have one unless I self study IT enough.