Gore thread

reminder that confirmed Chernobyl death toll is 12 people and bulk of that is completely unrelated to radiation

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Reminder that the area surrounding Chernobyl will be uninhabitable for 20,000 years. Great job Soviet nuclear engineers!

Reminder that you're a braindead faggot who can't even look up that million people never left that area and still live there and power plant was in operation until late 2000's

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It wasn't designed for the same purpose as the shuttle. It's main purpose would have been dropping nuclear bombs, which is why the program was halted shortly after the collapse of the soviet union

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Why would you "drop nuclear bombs" from a fucking shuttle? ICBMs are much cheaper. If you want loiter capability just launch satellites with MIRVs and a retrorocket

That nigga dead

>I buy Russian propaganda raw.
Uh-huh.

newscientist.com/article/dn20664-cosmonaut-soviet-space-shuttle-was-safer-than-nasas/

Buran was superior to Shuttle, could fly unmanned, when shuttle could not, and westerners thought that USSR computers were shit, yeah right. Main issue with Buran dying off is its lift rocket Energia, if it had influx of money it could revolutionize space travels for all of humanity, but it was dropped obv. cuz no money lol, so we stuck with SpaceX memeHeavy and SLS shitshow for a while

>So we stuck with SpaceX memeHeavy

Okay I understand, we all miss the Space Shuttle. But you can't denote that the Falcon Heavy is not a good launch vehicle.

>literally does nothing new
>All it did was launch an advertisement into orbit, and failed the ONE thing it was meant to do
>LOL muh reusable part comes crashing hard into the ocean
>Despite all this shit, and uselessness, it still gets millions of dollars in bigs from the taxpayers
this thing is a useless disaster that can't even do what it's intended to do, all footed by us, the taxpayers

Actual numbers are a bit higher. But still fairly low

ourworldindata.org/what-was-the-death-toll-from-chernobyl-and-fukushima?preview_id=12011
tl;dr
>Chernobyl
>60 people died directly of the incident and acute radiation exposure
>Long term deaths are harder to estimate, but the WHO puts it at ~4000
>Could've been much less if the Russians actually admitted the disaster happened and evacuated people much faster

>Fukushima
>While 16000 people died as a direct result of the earthquake and tsunami. Nobody died as direct result of the incident at the reactor.
>A bunch of elderly people died because of stress.

So yeah. Nuclear is still the energy source with least deaths.

>Falcon Heavy is not a good launch vehicle.

time will tell
it's not about whats good launch vehicle, if we had international collaboration and Energia rocket launch system alive, we could be more prosperous as a space faring species.

>This thing is a useless disaster that can't even do what it's intended to do, all footed by us, the taxpayers

*Ahem*

SLS is the real science gore itt.

at the end of the day if i have to pick spaceX or SLS to put me in to space i will pick the SLS.
putting stuff in to space will be a job for company's like spaceX.
But humans will still go up with goverment payed&build rockets for at least a couple of decades.

>So yeah. Nuclear is still the energy source with least deaths.
Solar power is more dangerous than nuclear?

>The (stone?) counter top is actually cracked off
How do you manage that?

>Solar power
Yes, probably, just like coal.
The mining, and burning of coal has put more CO and radioactive shit in the air then nuclear so far.

Having sex with your hot chemist colleague

Where does Uranium come from again?

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Oh shut up, you know damn well what I meant

your mum.

He was alive as of the early 2000s iirc. He was doing fine at the time.

>All it did was launch an advertisement into orbit, and failed the ONE thing it was meant to do
But it did succeed. The only part customers care about is that it successfully launched a multiple ton payload into solar orbit. Customers don't care about what happens to the first stage and boosters after stage separation. They only care about the payload. Reusability for Falcon is just a bonus for Space-x to keep costs down.

Accidents during installation on roofs pushes it above nuclear if I recall correctly.

Mines but its nowhere near the same scale of mining as coal.

People should be happy looking at this picture. Cant even imagine the amount of talent that wouldve died due to the shuttle meme.

>Can't even imagine the amount of talent that would've died due to the shuttle meme.

NASA's will to care about space travel

Why would you copy an idea that was terrible in the first place?

USSR computer were shit, it’s just that NASA’s reason to keep the shuttle manned was ideological, they didn’t want an unmanned spacecraft reentering above the us. That’s a shit reason, but their computers were at least 1 decade ahead of the Soviet’s one

Before
Pic is after

Total cost of development of F9+FH+Reuse+Dragon v1/v2: 6 billion dollar (half of that dragon v2)

Total cost of development of STS and SLS and Orion: over 60 billion dollar.

Both will soon be able/can/could send 7 people to orbit, 20 tons or so to LEO (F9/STS), or send large probes in a direct insertion trajectory to outer planets (granted SLS is more capable than FH but we currently don’t have a probe heavy enough to make the SLS worth it)

One was done over 50 years and one program reboot, the other in 10 years.

SpaceX is just several time more efficient than government programmes, when Elon says that they will build a Saturn V class rocket for 1:5th the price (10 billion vs the 50 billion of the SV), I believe him

>efficient

Gore for astronomers

Too easy to find aerospace gore.

Nice picture, thanks

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SpaceX's first strongback lost one of its clamp arms right after takeoff

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Here's a nice compromise of Rocketeer Gore/Porn (not literal porn)

>This video was sponsored by Macho Man "Randy Savage".

youtube.com/watch?v=13qeX98tAS8

Tfw I can't see the stars in the Large City where I live

more dangerous pound for pound sure, but you don't need all that much uranium, while you need coal mining by the megaton
so total deaths from coal is significantly higher than total deaths from uranium, at every level of the processing

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To the fucker who said earlier that Chernobyl wasn't that deadly.

Never flying is safer, I guess...

>you should ignore the numbers and look at this poor animal instead
>feels are more important than facts
no fucking shit, there were casualties from the disaster, however the numbers are far lower than what anti-nuclear propaganda would have people believe

>Buran was superior to Shuttle, could fly unmanned, when shuttle could not

Partially correct... the STS was not designed with the ability to fly without a crew, but this capability was later added, though never used.

The superiority of Buran would be more convincing if it had been used. They are both about equally good at sitting in a hangar and gathering dust.

That's fucking heartbreaking.

If you have been in a dark-sky/clear-sky environment, put that on your bucket list. It is an amazing thing to see, if you never have.

It's times like these I question if were in the "Good" timeline of the Universe. I feel like this isn't the way things were meant to go.

The United States and Soviet Union were supposed to united behind a common goal of space exploration. Instead the Soviet Union collapsed and the United States is in decline...

Then I realize that I'm just fucking crazy

>2:57

That photo has nothing to do with mutation. It's a dead critter than dried out rather than rotting, and became a natural mummy. I have no idea if that was because Evile Chernobyl Radiation killed it, then killed the decay bacteria, or if it died and mummified for some other reason.

Baby pig, looks like.

soviet union was the most evil governing body to ever exist, it's better that they collapsed
We will explore the heavens soon, it will merely be heralded by different individuals then what was expected

>Maoist China
>Khmer Rouge Cambodia

But yeah, the Soviet system was contender.

Don't forget Nazi Germany

Judging by the cracked bottles and the bottle of heptane, probably an explosion.

Who were those idiots?

Chernobyl

>Solar power is more dangerous than nuclear?
Yes, thousands die of sunstroke yearly

yes just a normal dead pig, nothing to see here

And that's why it isn't bilaterally symmetric?

>first time ever used
>side cores are previously used, seperate and land flawlessly
>payload makes it into orbit intact
>new, heavily modified central core doesnt quite make the landing on their first time ever using it
>total failure

There's nothing wrong with being skeptical of Spacex given the time overruns and experimental tech, but this is just dumb user.

what about it?

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I have not forgotten it, I do not mention it on Veeky Forums any more.

Don't do radiation kiddos!
Centrincubator

From that angle the deformities are visible. So it is not JUST mummified, it was also deformed. Might post this picture instead from now on, since it doesn't just look weird, it also shows the feature you are trying to illustrate.

A different user posted the first pic, but it's pretty clearly deformed in that one too.

It's a fairly infamous photo/specimen.

Hey, what the fuck are all those lights in the sea right to Argentina?

Plenty of healthy animals near the reactor.

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>Being retarded
Lol fuck off

I's less obvious,you don't se all the extra appendages, but do see the sort of contortions and distortions that come when an animal corpses desicates, tendons shrink, and all that. The second image shows clearly what is supposed to be shown -- the massive deformities.

Fishing fleets, probably. I think you see some around Japan as well. Or is there oil there? You see a lot of oil platform lights NE of Britain, and a few offshore from Texas/Louisiana.

Indeed, never forget the nation that pioneered practical liquid fueled rockets, and gave the US and USSR their start in space exploration technology.

Fun fact: The Falkland Islands have the 5th highest gdp per capita.

That's rather interesting. Shame people don't know just how much of an effect even a single degree change in temperature can have over time.

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That time the LHC exploded

So I have this nightmare fuel from a telescope I work with.

Before.

After. Band new survey telescope, primary mirror obliterated in transit. Set it back 5 years.

The telescope had a fancy active optics system for really high quality images.

Water got in during transit and caused substantial damage.

that hurts

did you have it delivered by regular mail or how can a delicate shipment possibly get f'ed up that like that.