Share your most pleb literary opinions

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I feel like one of the biggest travesties in American education is that a majority of students are forced to read shit books like Catch-22 and The Great Gatsby

my pleb opinion is to turn my brain off when reading finnegan's wake and really not try to even summarize the plot or catch the allusions. i literally just laugh at the funny little sounds he writes.

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Crime and Punishment is the first "classic" that I'm really having to slog through

Those books aren't shit though. Your opinion is wrong.

I think Plato just blames god for everything because he was lazy

Max stirner was racist and complained about god too much

The Bible is too repetitive.

Asian literature is too vague.

I think Philip dick read like an autistic kid explaining the plot of transformers

Audio books at x3 speed are the best way to read because it both forces me to pay attention and I can do chores or drive while I'm listening.

E-readers are a pain in the ass just like audio books. Either you pay out the ass for amazon like some apple watch fag, or it takes up all your time managing and organizing files like some android austist.

I think fiction is a waste of time when there are movies that can do it better in a shorter amount of time. Nonfiction is the only thing worth reading when you don't have time to read 3000 pages about a drunk Irish guy or some French dude stealing bread or some Russians going to war.

Everything should be as clear and easy to digest as possible. Tough words and complicated description should only be used when necessary.

Also every fiction book should have cool action scenes. Literally all of them.

I disagree with you on plenty of these but I think I really like you anyways

I think Bleeding Edge and Inherent Vice are superior to The Crying of Lot 49

(V. is still my fav Pynchon though)

>this is your mind on STEM

same

>forces me to pay attention
>and I can do chores or drive while I'm listening

The Catcher in the Rye is one of the greatest books ever written.

Ayn Rand is actually okay. Not great, but okay.

Atlas Shrugged isn't a slog.

And that's okay. I'm a Veeky Forums pleb anyway. >LAW
Ftfy
>selective auditory listening
>low impact low mental processing yet productive activity
>????

ironically this holy fuck, there's no fucking point and it just obscures what little content is actually there

The Garnett version is the best for all Russian literature

Literally John Green with higher aspirations.

>I think Philip dick read like an autistic kid explaining the plot of transformers

How so?

I read what I want.
This sentence's plebness is defined by my aspirations.
If I were a pleb, this sentence would be pleb too.

I agree, it's so anti-immersion
Nah man, Finnegan's Wake is fucking beautiful
I get the idea that Dickens would have been a great costume drama miniseries writer in the 1970s when budgets were limitless and insane. Actually reading him ought to be /comfy/ but isn't.
Gaiman and Le Guin are great gateway drugs but people rarely use them as such. It's become too easy to stick around in YA now that it has co-opted normie literature.
Yeah, it's somehow wishy-washy as fuck but maintains a sense of conviction. I really wish she were still around, she'd be a top-tier troll against academia and her Twitter would be fucking hilarious

Mine:

Cannot get into Dostoevsky and a lot of first-person Russian literature. There's something so cavalier about their inner monologues, must be cultural or alcohol-induced. I can't have that kind of conversation with myself so reading someone else's is weird as fuck.

Now this is a god-tier post

I haven't read Dostoevsky yet so I can't agree with you there but every other response is spot-on

I think Japanese lit is pretty good

Gravity's Rainbow is too hard.

Dostoevsky is the shitest out of all the Russian meme authors

P&V translations are trash

The books you find on "the best of" science fiction lists are usually all exactly the same.

King James Bible is trash

I can't stand miserable books about miserable people.

>Either you pay out the ass for amazon like some apple watch fag, or it takes up all your time managing and organizing files like some android austist

First of all
>pay
Second of all just keep it all in one folder and transfer it to calibre or some shit.

>Nonfiction is the only thing worth reading when you don't have time to read 3000 pages about a drunk Irish guy or some French dude stealing bread or some Russians going to war.
I agree that non-fiction is undervalued but I wouldn't right of fiction entirely, especially when it provides perspectives and information that you would get out of a nonfiction book.

I love you

I get this vibe when the miserable in question bring it on themselves or in no way attempt to address their station.

Ubik aside, there was just something about his anphetamine induced prose.

Then I have to remember to charge the little fucker, even if it's made "simple" with that 1993 vaporwave tier opensource piece of trash.

And yeah, fiction can be fun and you get "perspective" but that's almost learning secondhand. When in a time crunch I'd prefer to go to something with sources and information just waiting to be used.

Y-you t-too

I've only read Great Expectations, but I have to say this seems like quite an unusual one user. I can't imagine someone finding Dickens more difficult than Shakespeare.

Ideal prose contains roughly 75% medium length sentences, 5% short sentences, and 20% long sentences.

Short = 5 words or less
medium = 6-14 words
long = 15+ words

Crime and Punishment is way to long for what it is

the catcher in the rye is unironically my favorite book.

>King James Bible is trash
it really is

>Then I have to remember to charge the little fucker, even if it's made "simple" with that 1993 vaporwave tier opensource piece of trash
Just plug it in nigger when you add more books

never liked the great gatsby, don't think this is a pleb opinion

Camus is the shittiest existentialist ever.

Maybe I'm the opposite here. Proust has one of the greatest prose I've read in my life, still I could not stand more than 150 pages of his bourgeois ass.

Love this book but I agree.

I don't reread books.

I dislike people who read classics in public.

I prefer physical copies of books to e readers.

THANK YOU

Okay, Stephen King.

Faggot

this

In what way? And how is he worse than Sartre?

DeLillo doesn't deserve to be ranked among the other great postmodernists.

Catch 22 is cringy edge-lord garbage.

I'm not a native English speaker, so very canonical old stuff like Shakespeare is pretty difficult for me.

I have read a lot of it though, like the sonnets and Macbeth, but it really is difficult to keep up with the dialog.

I had the same problem when I tried to read Blood Meridian too. I understood most of it, but it really is written in a peculiar style.

Harry Potter is really damn good other than the ending and deserves the love and praise it gets.

Sarah J Maas is tolerable, until she isn't.

Steven King is a little bit overrated and if he does his stupid muh religion, muh new england any more I am going to scream.

The Great Gatsby and Jane Eyre are both atrocious. The Great Gatsby has like, one really great paragraph but the rest of it is muh color symbolism, muh hangups.

Color symbolism and other symbolism is generally pointless and shallow. It's obnoxious.

Grendel is a better story than Beowulf.

I think the first 20 Goosebumps books should be mandatory reading.

Wayside School should also be mandatory reading.

I think fiction should always be entertaining in some way.

I love the Beats.

I only read ulysses for the language. I read it with the abandon i read prose poetry with. Nothing beyond that is worth the effort.

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Most if not all lit crit is hollow masturbatory word salad and i dont think any of them actually understand the things they read and the authors they study and just inject whatever they can to sound like they do.

Came here to post this

Camus is not an existentialist

>Grendel is a better story than Beowulf.
My nigger
Grendel is probably the most important modernist work, in terms of thematic layering and literary depth, that isn't "English Grad Student" levels of complex like Ulysses

>Wayside School
Holy shit user I havent even thought about that book in like 15 years ilove you holy shit

I buy a book if it's cover is cool.

- Seems like nearly every Shakespeare play is about a love triangle of some kind.

- Cormac McCarthy tries too hard to impress.

- Portrait of an Artist was meh.

- Women authors do not produce works of literature as great as men do.

- Hemingway novels are terrible, but his short stories are great.

Feels good to get off my chest.

Harry Potter Is overrated garbage. It benefited from a great marketing campaign and virgin teen nostalgia. She's not very talented, which is why she still won't let go of Harry Potter: she knows she'll never produce anything else worth reading. Five minutes on her twitter account shows her critical thinking skills and overall intelligence pretty clearly, I think. It's a great children's novel, but anyone who, as an adult, still thinks it has any real merit, clearly hasn't moved on or read anything outside of YA. It doesn't hold up to any criticism, and the fans have no way to defend it but getting so triggered the conversation ends. It's pathetic to latch on to something so shallow, and I would strongly recommend that you move on and try some big boy books.

Same here

All correct except

>Asian literature is too vague.

because you don't full grasp the Buddhist mindset and the way its symbolism, storytelling, and philosophy work.

stephen king is an important american writer

>thread about unpopular opinions
>sperg out massively when you find one you don't like

Why.

I like Lovecraft's prose.

a short, single comment on Veeky Forums can make me like or dislike a book which i haven't even read

For giggles

god here is one I might get shit for:

New King James (not my fav translation by any means) is way better than the King James

Most people who read Finnegans Wake are psueds. Only a handful of people have ever truly understood that book; it's basically worthless from the standpoint of all but the most singularly fanatical scholar.

>babby's Symbolism unit in high school literature was taught using The Great Gatsby, so he thinks that The Great Gatsby is the only book that uses symbolism

Only true if you've only read Harold Bloom or scholarly criticism.

Coleridge, Johnson, and Dryden are all great critics. D.H. Lawrence's critical writers are also very insightful

Have you read the myth of sisiphus?
"Absurdist", whatever

>Audio books at x3 speed are the best way to read
>E-readers are a pain in the ass just like audio books.

So do you like audio books or not?

I agree

>There's something so cavalier about their inner monologues, must be cultural or alcohol-induced. I can't have that kind of conversation with myself so reading someone else's is weird as fuck.

Do/did you feel this way with Ulysses? I just supposing you've read it since you're defending FW, but it has a ton of inner monologues

What parts would you omit?

That's a fact, regardless of where you stand on his writing

Lawrence Durrell is one of the best authors ever and he's also a great poet

I'd rather read authors from my country that appeal to me instead of classics such as Twain, Dickens, most Russians and pretty much the majority of americans too

Black people writing incessantly about race is completely fine and makes sense. You take a writer (an obessive) and from a young age tell him he is not only unintelligent, but immoral and ugly. Of course it's going to hang over his work.

Nah, it depends on what your book is.

sure but it's also perfectly fine for Europeans to say that these subjects don't appeal to them nearly as much as to americans, making it feel like america is trying to shove these subjects down Europe's throat with these books.

Karamazov is much better. Crime and Punishment was too trance-like in style for me to follow it easily. I think it's meant to be that way though, to simulate Rodya's delirium.

There's nothing wrong with debating.

>Women authors do not produce works of literature as great as men do

The only reason this is the case is because women tend to be in the average when it comes to IQ, whereas men are more likely to be either low or high IQ.

No matter how hard I try I can't bring myself to enjoy Mark Twain's writing

There exists good manga

That wasn't debating though. user attacked everyone and everything except for the actual book where the only thing he mentioned was "it doesn't stand up to criticism." Conveniently he doesn't spend any of his post providing legitimate criticism towards the actual text. The post is nothing but a classic spergout.

I don't dislike Cervantes but I despise his moral-superiority-but-not-really-but-yes shit in all his works. It's the sole reason braindead faggots accuse literature being a normie art.

Franzen should get a Nobel