Assuming climate change is real, how concerned about it should the average citizen be?

Assuming climate change is real, how concerned about it should the average citizen be?

Will it have any significant impact in my lifetime?

By the time there are significant consequences, will we have colonized other planets?

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>Assuming
direct control

>how concerned about it should the average citizen be?
Very concerned.

>Will it have any significant impact in my lifetime?
If you're between 20 and 30 years old, oh yes.

>By the time there are significant consequences, will we have colonized other planets?
Probably not, but even if we do, there's simply no way that extraterrestrial colonies will account for even a fraction of a percentage of the total population.

>Will it have any significant impact in my lifetime?
Climate change might not directly affect first world countries THAT severely, but what will be really bad is the global socioeconomic impact.

You know the recent migration crisis in Europe? Imagine that times a thousand. Poor countries will be affected the worst, so it's going to create millions of new refugees.

So.. are we just gonna ignore the fact that they labeled the ice sheets of Antarctica as habitable land despite there being no land under it?

>despite there being no land under it

More than half of the parts they labeled have no land under it.

is right.
Don't imagine fleeing Earth.
Even if the other planets were all hospitable as Hawaii, it we had the capability to transport millions of people, we'd do better to use that lift-capacity to park a sun shade in front of the Earth.

Neither prospect will be feasible in time to do any good. Whether ANYTHING will be in time to do any good is still up in the air. Denialists certainly aren't helping matters.

It's a meme image, don't take it too seriously. Not that climate change isn't a dire threat to us but the predictions in that pic shouldn't be taken at face value

climate change is real you dipshit, what is unclear is the impact we are having on it or if it is mostly the earth running its course. We are having consequences right now, more hurricanes, colder winters and hotter summers. We can't do shit about it, lowering some emissions does not guarantee that that the earth will be colder. "Significant consequences", you fucking faggot, the Earth will get colder eventually, not just on your lifetime.

>what is unclear is the impact we are having on it or if it is mostly the earth running its course
wrong

We were already in a long warming period (though a slightly cooling trend within that), but the rate at which it's happening is absolutely human driven.

>We can't do shit about it, lowering some emissions does not guarantee that that the earth will be colder
We can't just drastically raise greenhouse gas concentrations and expect nothing to happen.

I wish there was proof climate change was a hoax. I think about this shit everyday.
fuck

>climate change is real you dipshit
Do you need to swear?

>faggot
Why the homophobia?

And the rest is barren rock. Since it hasn't been ice free in millions of years.

>New Jersey is totally removed
This is truly the best-case timeline.

Shit will hit the fan in the 2030s
If you thought the latest California fires were bad, you just wait and see.
The Amazon has lost its capability to absorb CO2, it is now an emitter.
Wildfires in Greenland ffs.
But, the political effect will hit you first, as famine creates failed states like Syria and Libya. Plenty of war and terrorism in the news.

>what is unclear is
not it's not, derp
youtu.be/6VUPIX7yEOM?t=2m

But how much of that land would ned up above sea level due to glacial rebound?

south africa is already getting fucked by climate change, google day zero to find out about how they are in a massive drought that is causing a lack of water for everyone in the region. it's only a matter of time before that happens to virtually everywhere in earth. it won't be the climate that ruins things directly, it will be the social and political impact. when people can't get water, they will riot. the government will react accordingly, with the military, and then shit will get quite ugly quit quickly. we're in for a hell of a ride.

Without socialist world government and completely planned economy focused on minimizing the effects of climate change humanity probably won't survive this century.

>being this new

kys

Vague projections aside, does humanity even have the resources to build 6 billion people's worth of dystopian supercities in the temperate north?

This, we need a god emperor to force us to survive.

Resources, yes. Political will, no.

>being this new to Veeky Forums
Hi /pol/

Those digits don't lie.

>Droughts didn't occur before the industrial age.
What?

If the Earth turns into a giant ball of lava in 100 years you will just say
>The Earth was never a giant ball of lava before the industrial age.
>What?

Someone talking sense? On my Veeky Forums? I

It's more likely than you think

Slightly.

ALmost assuredly not. There are direct methoods of combatting the effects of CO2 that we can't use at the moment because they are not the solutions the Greens want. But if things started to get bad, they could be used despite Green objections.

Colonizing other planets is not relevant to you or me -- a tiny, tiny minority would actually move there, if it ever happens. We will almost certainly not be among them. But we could enjoy a warm fuzzy feeling that humanity might survive if Earth gets fucked.

>Shit will hit the fan in the 2030s
Adding to my list of screen-capped predictions on climate change, for when, like all the previous ones, it does not happen.

There have already been significant consequences even for the average person. Well maybe not significant but noticeable. There's is definitely less snow than there used to be and it's pouring rain in February here in Canada.

colonization will take fucking ages assuming we don't make a breakthrough in pushing things through vacuum.

>directly affect first world countries THAT severel
inland regions away from large forests anyways.

This. It'll give us a cool evil empire to fight 100 years from now.

It also just rained for a solid day here in Michigan; granted we always had weird Februarys, but going from three feet of snow to 50° weather over the course of a week is unusual, to say the least.

Climate change is real, but it’s always changed. It’s easier to get meme science funding when you make it out to be a crisis.

Those stupid assholes have been in a drought for years because they are the only people on the planet too stupid to migrate to water.

>not knowing the memes of Veeky Forums

>muh deserts
No. Warm world = wet world, there will be some desertification but the amount of viable land would go UP if the icesheets melted.

>HURR
Rate of change, moron.

>climate change
>real
Found the amerrican lol

Except Americans are the only people in teh world who think it's fake, so it's pretty obvious which of you is teh American.

t. american

See that just doesn't make sense. Why would I be an American, based on my post?

>Muh rates over 90 years vs 5 million

Kys nigger

because you are stupid axaxaxa

But there are lots of stupid non-Americans. For example, at least one of us.

It's a copypasta

you are stupid one kek
i am genius

You're either an American, in which case you are by definition a tard, or you are a non-American, in which you are living proof that there are dumb non-Americans. Either way, I win.

t. stupid
I win
if you reply to this post or thread another time you agree i win

haha retard you just got BTFO

Another thread ruined by idiot yurocucks.

Isnt it funny how much climate scientists are displaying symptoms of group think?
thegwpf.org/content/uploads/2018/02/Groupthink.pdf

>all the data points one way
>HURR GROUPTHINK LMAO Y U NO BASE UR VIEWS ON TEH BIBLE LIKE FREETHINKERS LIKE I DO???

>what is cooking the books

>wanting thousands of chinks, Indians, and Floridians
Kill yourselves, denialists.

...

Don't generalize.
Not ALL Americans are stupid.
But enough were.

>there are people on Veeky Forums RIGHT NOW who don't lovingly support President Trump in all he does
Man it's starting to feel like Reddit in here

how did a zionist shill like Trump convince /pol/tards to love him?

>what is cooking the books
A baseless conspiracy theory.

I read something the other day about the polar vortex splitting. It makes the weather a little weird for a bit.

>if this unknown catastrophe happens you'll be wrong.
The earth is still a giant ball of lava we live on the crust.
Climate models fail to predict the climate unless they are so ambiguous they are Nostradamus. The climate can change across the earth in one day, but humans have come nowhere close to the energy output that a large sized meteor or supervolcano provides to do it, even if you talk about combined energy output since artificial human energy output was a thing.

>citation needed
>100 year timeline

Imagine in 1000 years when we'll have 10 of these to compare against each other.

Poor Galileo, he had to deal with useful idiots like you.

>The Amazon has lost its capability to absorb CO2, it is now an emitter.

Why are there never concrete facts?
They all change from one year to the next.

This all could have been avoided if the population didn't explode over the last 50 years.

Economists encourage population growth.

>how concerned about it should the average citizen be?

Very concerned and acting against the perpretators. Someone is responsible for most of the share of emitted gases. If I'm not wrong only a few of the biggest corporations are responsible for 70% of the CO2 emitted each year.

>Will it have any significant impact in my lifetime?

Yes and it is already happening. There's some correlation even between ISIS' growth and climate change.

>By the time there are significant consequences, will we have colonized other planets?
No. Engineering or spacial exploration won't save us. Also, why waste resources and knowledge trying terraform another planet instead of saving Earth's biomes?

>nobody checking these quints
>nobody checking this full house

The absolute state of my Veeky Forums

Jeez, there some real doomsayers in this thread.
Renewable is getting more and more popular each day. Soon, the internal combustion engine in cars will be legacy tech, we can get solar panels on most roofs.
And if not, then we simply find some new equilibrium. Its not the end of the damn world if we kill off the polar bears or melt Canada. I know we shouldn't but come on. The way I see it, climate change is humanity's growing pains. A side effect of the industrial revolution.Were way too resourceful to let it get too bad for ourselves.

>what is tipping point

There's land under most of it, but it would take a long time to rise to the surface after being freed from the weight of the ice.

>tfw I live in Australia
Shit. The bushfires in Victoria are already pretty bad and the summers are fucking awful despite being a relatively temperate state. What the fuck do I do? Migrate to Tasmania? New Zealand? Canada?

what are you talking about?

Tasmania m8, it's where I am going to retire.

>concerned
>average citizen
Your "average citizen" is concerned about football, keeping his job, and getting laid.
He gives not a shit about climate change, if he gives it any thought at all.

Earth had way more atmospheric CO2 in the past and life was fine. The only real concern is dumping toxic industrial waste into the environment.

>uninhabitable due to floods, drought or extreme weather
not uninhabitable, just hard

what would some of the consequences be?

apart from ice age in europe, and drouts in africa?

Can't we just do something with the CO2?

Isn't there any way to suck it out of the atmosphere and contain it?
Or set up filters in industrial chimneys?

>Assuming climate change is real, how concerned about it should the average citizen be?
There is nothing you can do about it but move to some location you think will become optimal for human survival. Since you should already be planning to do this anyway, there is no concern.

> suck it out of the atmosphere and contain it?

There's been some ideas tossed around about putting a bunch of iron filings into the ocean which will hopefully cause a giant boom in plankton populations, who will then hopefully take up some of that CO2, die, settle to the ocean floor, and not re-release that CO2 back into the atmosphere.

We're not sure how well that will work in the long run, though, and even everything goes well the process will only remove so much CO2 from the atmosphere. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iron_fertilization

One dude posts this "Why *phobia?" and you consider it a meme? I'd say it's more like retardation than meme.

>One dude posts this "Why *phobia?" and you consider it a meme?
I'm not a "dude".

>Assuming climate change is real,
>Assuming gravity is real
>Assuming the water cycle is real
>Assuming the oxygen cycle is real
>Assuming reality is real
>Assuming that One is real

>direct methoods of combatting the effects of CO2 that we can't use at the moment because they are not the solutions the Greens want
Such as?

I've never seen the Thames looking like an actual river.

Vaccines cause autism.

What is it about a green house gas causing temperatures to rise that triggers /pol/ so much? Do they honestly think dumping a substance that increases average temperature on a planet wouldn't cause it's average temp to rise?

its because its a huge liberal stance and they want to be contrarians

>Earth had way more CO2 in the past and life was fine
Yeah, and Earth has a lot more dinosaurs in the past and life was fine. Just because Earth used to have high CO2 doesn't make the current warming potentially catastrophic.

God destroyed the world with a flood due to human degeneracy. Next time it will be with fire, it's gonna get hotter and hotter as mankind's second term of degeneracy increases. We are doomed to eternal hell, only the righteous will be saved.
And why in hell would you want to colonize Mars, its environment is a million times worse than Earth's. There will be no escape from God's wrath.

No civilization tho

assuming anyone will be around in 1000 years to make them

We had a chance to avoid the worst of global warming with nuclear. Back in the 80s France already got most of its electricity from this carbon neutral source. With renewables we are still playing catch-up to what nuclear easily achieved 40 years ago.

Ironically, this means that clueless environmentalists will be the ones responsible for failure to prevent global warming. The road to hell is paved with good intentions..

France only did it because they don't have oil or coal and wanted to get independent, nobody else would have completely switched away from fossil to nuclear without a good reason
Should have named nuclear reactors something else so dumb people don't automatically associate it with bombs, maybe then

Why do environmentalists hate nuclear again?