Are there any good orange cake recipes?

Yeah dude, we get it you want higher healthcare prices and tax cuts for billionaires.

Do you have any good orange cake recipes or you just couldnt help being a reddit fag and derailed the thread?

actually the derail came from your team just like everything bad that has ever happened

its weird you have this bizarre narrative going on that in no way reflects reality.
I'm sure you will enjoy the tax cuts and lower premiums you are getting soon. And I'm sure you will do more mental gymnastics to justify how it wasn't trump who gave them to you.

>and thus the brave nationalist, embodiment and champion of all that is noble and pure, shitposted anonymously on a basket weaving forum to other strangers about just how totally happy and unflustered he was

What do you guys hate more? Niggers or women?

>not knowing that hospitals and big pharma rev up the prices once the government is forced to pay for everything

Basically a monopoly. Same reason why University cost is rising, because government financial aid is increasing. You will pay through taxes. "Free/universal" anything is the biggest crime of our time. Universal healthcare will force everyone to buy more medicine than needed in an overpriced rate and big pharma, bloated in its current state, will be unstoppable.

Of course you wouldn't feel it because you're a jobless NEET who doesn't pay taxes.

Also, it's the reason why most Pharmaceutical corporations lobby for universal healthcare.

All citizens will be forced to buy their products. People that don't need medical care will form a line to hospitals because it's "free." Demand for their products will be infinite.

this is not what happens in literally every other first world country on the planet

This is why there are hordes of incredibly angry Canadians, New Zealanders, Singaporians, and Swedish people.

Oh wait

Example: Last year EpiPen's prices skyrocketed as its manufacturer realized that it had a virtual monopoly on the portable epinephrine injectors.

There was a huge outrage in the United States as people had the choice to buy or not buy them and they had to know the prices.

Meanwhile, there were less protests in Europe because "the government pays for it" and nobody cared. Socialized healthcare makes people sleepy and lazy. They paid the price in taxes without their knowing.

see It's basic psychology; once you get the feeling that the government is paying for everything, you lose the feeling of responsibility and they forget about the costs.

In America, you buy the medicine yourself so you have to know the prices. In socialist nations, you pay indirectly (taxes) making people unaware of the high costs of medicine. Most people don't think about it.

It's a perfect robbery.

Universal healthcare, in its essence, is forced purchases of medical care from a nation's tax revenue.

There are no other sweet ways to word it.

>People that don't need medical care will form a line to hospitals because it's "free."
Except you didn't word it that way. You said specifically this. There isn't some predicament in hospitals in other first world countries where you have to wait some abnormally long amount of time to get your free healthcare.

t. someone who needed to wait hours in the ER before my arm injury was treated in America

Correction: EpiPen does not have a monopoly, but it is close enough (Jext, the 2nd competitor is small)

Boo hoo you waited hours for an arm injury. Arm injuries aren't a big deal. If tedious and meticulous surgeries such as heart surgeries or transplants are "free" however, then the lines are nightmares.

Canadians that need urgent heart surgery just go to WA, MI, or NY because the wait line for surgeries are ridiculous.

>boo hoo your problem isn't real

>out of arguments
get outta here

fuck wh*Tes for what they did to BLACKS
youtube.com/watch?v=MVFdsqQby9o

aside from the fact that two countries with universal health care are faster than the US but sure

Well I was talking about Canada's failure of a universal healthcare system so it's fair.

To concede a bit, I think universal healthcare can be quick; it all depends on bureaucracy. If it's shit, you shouldn't have universal healthcare.

Anyways, my other points on costliness is still on the table.

In addition, if you don't have enough hospitals and doctors to meet increased demands of a universalized healthcare, you shouldn't have universal healthcare.

I'm talking to several particular countries..

But who pays more in the end? ;)

>Reply to a joke post thinking you'll get easy virtue signaling points, get fucking wrecked, damage control engage.

l e l.

>a lobbyist group fabricates information
cool

that's a work of pure fiction. Seeing a specialist in the united states doesn't take months, it takes hours if not immediately

if you walk into a hospital and they see you need surgery or a treatment, you are on the operating table that day

The US.

Ooooookay read the thread first and answer my question again.

the French. self important snobs who haven't realized the era of "the best chefs are from French" has long passed and the worst kind of snob is the kind that doesn't realize they've been outclassed and are being snobby for nothing. You can meme about flyovers, frozen food and other shit like that but, the majority of the greatest chefs at this point in history are based in America.

this chart doesn't really serve your point too well if your goal is to make the USA look bad
its showing our massive country with a privatized system is doing a better job that almost every other country in the world which is smaller and publicly run

Besides the sob stories of unique cases where someone has to pay $200,000 out of pocket for a surgery in the US, overall medical care is cheaper, taxes are cheaper, and the average US citizen saves more compared to citizens in socialized nations where everyone is forced to pay overpriced medicine and healthcare by default.

The $200,000 stories are truly tragic, but they are just anecdotes at best. In average, the US citizen pays less for healthcare. Thank you for trying.

I've watched this before I thought it was an interesting video and I had no problems with it. Slavery/forced servitude is fucked up. I also support better border security and believe Trayvon had it coming. People are complicated.

>meme
>verb
Retard.

Funny how the cherry-picked and anecdotal sob-stories of a guy having to pay a huge amount for surgeries is what socialist politicians used in Europe to push for universal health care. Not actual statistics.

The US gave Europe universal healthcare?

Wouldn't surprise me, we pay for everything else with them anyways.~

"Meme" is commonly used as a verb in the internet

>In average, the US citizen pays less for healthcare.
Nice anecdotal evidence you have there. Care to actually provide proof?

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_total_health_expenditure_per_capita

By retards.

>Ask about orange
>Everyone just talks about shit

OP look up orange polenta cake. It's the best I can recommend you for now

Well before socialized healthcare, it was insurance and out of pocket in Europe too (varies in different countries but it was basically this more or less).

Americans are much less healthier than Europeans, and obesity is a huge portion of our healthcare costs.

In an even playing field, we do pay less. Cheaper drugs and healthcare.

>the best chefs are from French
>from French
Cretin

>In an even playing field, we do pay less. Cheaper drugs and healthcare.
Are you going to provide proofs, or shift the blame?

bloomberg.com/graphics/2015-drug-prices/

Besides the possibility that the politically-motivated survey cherry picked drugs that happened to be cheaper in other countries, and cherry-picking countries that have cheaper drugs (just my natural distrust of Bloomberg's reputation as a reliable source in general), I don't really have an answer to your challenge.

Yeah drug companies are shit.

>ask for cake
>get poor republitards sperging about how tax cuts for billionaires are a must
Trumpolitical correctness is cancer

What is it like to live in your own little fantasy world, cheetodust?

You already posted a pic of the worst orange cake, so the only way is up from there.