>Medicine is the science and practice of the diagnosis, treatment, and prevention of disease.
Julian Foster
Damn I kinda wanna be a doctor
Ryan Murphy
medicine seems hierarchically fucked no matter where you go (in different ways tho. nurses suffer from bureau, EMS from fire, doctors from medicare, PAs from being brainless, ect). I don't think this is going to change w/ the amount of political fuckery going on.
If you can get through it and get the skills you need somehow (anyhow), you're a god tho. You will probably commit suicide first, though, realistically
Jason Parker
fuck off
Jace Hill
>best book ask any health professional worth their salt about which is the best medical book and they will have only one super secret answer. Hint: it's related to experience.
Cameron Powell
As a psych guy, I’ll tell you tha kaplan and sadock is the quintessential book on psychiatry. DSM-V is more of a guide for diagnostic criteria than a textbook you can read and learn from.
You should, it’s great. I hold the belief that anyone can be a physician if they work hard enough.
A lot of issues for sure, but physicians usually come out the winning end (unlike nurses ir EMTs, very sadly).
Suicide is a big issue in physicians. People gloss over the reasons though, which is often the toxic culture surrounding us.
You still need to get your knowledge base from somewhere. A wise person (from ANY field) knows how to strike a balance between book-smart and street-smart.
Dominic Ortiz
>Oncology: DeVita Add Pizzo to that and we're set. Pediatric onco too sparse in Devita Absolutely. And in the information age, lots and lots of articles.
Jeremiah Torres
PREMEDS GET OUT
Logan Jackson
Neurologist here, the older I get the happier I become with my career choice.
I would even say that it's the ultimate profession in that multiple industries center on what I do, I am supported by around 100 different other professions, and what I do is considered inherently good. It's also well-paid and offers the best insight into what it means to be human anybody can get. Kind of strange if you think about it, the real possibility of having it all is counterintuitive.
> Neurology: Adams and Victor Actually it's Berlit by far but I don't know whether pleb English speakers can get it.
Anthony Edwards
Country?
Jose Miller
Don't know if you can really say it's a science. Medicine is mainly just the application of knowledge that arises from researching biological phenomena.
Hunter Anderson
>Berlit by far If it hasn't been translated to English, it very likely means that it's shit.
Adrian Torres
What is the best specialty for me if I'm interested in traveling to mars in a couple of decades with the Meme men of Musk? This is not an entirely joke question. I'm mostly interested in surgical specialties, and most probably gonna do nsgy after graduating. Would it be better just to do the Steps and try to get a residency in yankeeland? That would rule out all but IM, FM and prolly gen surg.
Nolan Cook
I've seen how premeds "study" fuck off you're not smarter than me
Logan Collins
There are a lot of not terribly dangerous medicines. that anyone could use to self treat. Yet they are kept unavailable to the general public. Forcing you to visit a doctor.
Like Cantharidin. A natural substance produced by blister beetles. It will blister any human flesh it contacts. Which makes it great for quickly removing warts and other minor skin blemishes. While the two common OTC remedies, freezing via combustible gas, or salicylic acid, take frequent treatments and scrapping skin off. Cantharidin will cause a blister with in 30 minutes. Remove the blister and keep the raw skin clean and covered. Once healed in a week, no more wart. Where as the OTC remedies can leave the wart to regrow.
Joshua Rivera
Austria
I don't know about that but I know that Berlit is the best one
Samuel Lopez
you missed kumar and clarks
David Morgan
Anatomy: Netters Clinical anatomy / Rohens Color Atlas of anatomy Anesthesiology: Miller Cardiology: Braunwald Dermatology: Bolognia Embryology: Langmans medical embryology Emergency Medicine: Tintinalli Endocrinology: Williams ENT: Cummings Family Medicine: Rakel GI: Sleisenger and Fordtran Histology: Wheaters Immunology: Levinson Infectious Disease: Mandell Internal Medicine: Kumar and Clarks/Davidsons Microbiology: Lippincott Nephrology: Brenner and Rector Neurology: Adams and Victor Neurosurgery: Youmans and Winn + Rhoton OB/GYN: Williams + ACOG Practice Bulletins Oncology: Clinical Oncology Anthony Neal Ophthalmology: Wills Eye Manual Orthopedics: Campbell OSCE: Macleods clinical examination Pathology: Robbins and Cotran Pathologic Basis of disease Pediatrics: Nelson Essentials of Paediatrics Pharmacology: Rang and Dales Pneumology: ??? Psychiatry: DSM-V Radiology: ??? Rheumatology: ??? Surgery: Browse Urology: Campbell-Walsh
Special mention: Oxford Handbook of Clinical Medicine (cheese and onion)
Ryan Martin
medicine is analogous to engineering
Isaac Wilson
Medicine is very clearly applied science. If engineers can be on Veeky Forums, then medfags can too.
You’re going to need a lot more than “kinda wanna.” You’ll dedicate the next 10 years of your life to education, training, and extremely difficult standardized tests only to get shit on during clinical rotations and residency for several years. It’s worth it though, seriously doubt there is a career more gratifying than saving lives and being paid tons of money for doing it.
Noah Bailey
They won’t need a neurosurgeon on Mars. Not sure how it is elsewhere but in the US neurosurgery is the most competitive and difficult residency to attain, something like only .08% of applicants actually match to neurosurgery.
I’m guessing general surgery would put you in the running, along with military training, preferably Air Force or your national equivalent.
Bentley Parker
> something like only .08% of applicants actually match to neurosurgery.
nah. its somewhere like 70% but its largely a self-selecting field. people who aren't gung-ho about it and don't have the stats/research dont even bother applying since the risk of not matching is too high.
Caleb Torres
hello everyone, my name is feynman, please join my pre-med/medicine discord which has been up for awhile. thanks
i like procedures, $$$, and free time, but also not super competitive. what should i do?
Wyatt Watson
competition rates in the US are meme tier
Bentley Jones
that's not very nice
Andrew Miller
you're on Veeky Forums if you are not competitive go into general practice/family medicine
Isaiah Stewart
i haven't even taken step yet, but assuming i score like 230-240
not a big fan of GP/FP, no procedures too much social work
Alexander Bell
looks like an oversaturation problem. US med schools keep enrollment low for this reason.
Sebastian Peterson
step? please explain, I am from the UK and I do not know how the US system works
John Edwards
we take a series of board exams, (Step 1,2,3)
Step 1 is the most important one that determines your competitiveness for specialties.
Matthew Ortiz
thats what happens when the main healthcare provider is a bloated inefficient socialist behemoth known as the NHS
i dont know how good medical students in the USA are, but medical students in the UK are absolute trash
they barely know ANYTHING, most medical students in the UK have probably never heard of 1/10th of the books OP mentioned - they basically all just cram the oxford handbook of medicine before exams
there is a serious issue of quantity over quality over here
Parker Brown
most of my peers are bright, obviously you get some retards like in any normal distribution, but the bar to get into a US med school is pretty high and you need to be committed and work hard.
Ryan King
This. Most students I’ve met in US medical school are very smart and hard working. I don’t know about the UK education system but a medical education here in the US will cost upwards of $200,000. That means anyone who isn’t totally committed will get scared and drop out fairly quickly.
Owen Collins
its about £36k for medical students in the UK. we usually have a cohort size of about 300-450 people (one year)
Aaron Flores
also our training duration is much fucking longer. 4 years bachelors, 4 years med school, 3-7 years residency training. by the time you're out you are well prepared to be a doctor.
Jayden Davis
in the UK: 5 years of medical school (minimum) 2 years foundation year training ( by this time you are technically a doctor) then you apply for specialitity training - the shortest being general practice (4 years)
Matthew Nguyen
Anesthesia is getting less and less competitive for some reason. You make good money, have procedures, and lots of time to do sudoku.
Luke Thompson
It's still extremely hard to match anesthesia.
Justin Hernandez
Means Step 1 score is just the average (which the poster says he estimates getting), so I don't see why he should have an issue matching.
Ian King
>tfw it's way too late for me to pursue medicine I'm a cs major graduating next year . I'm sad. I also feel the time commitment to be a doctor is a little ridiculous
Adam Phillips
CS and medicine are polar opposites. Why are you interested in medicine?
Gavin Cook
Only thing that interests me
Mason Morgan
>it's way too late for me to pursue medicine Why would you say that? Two of my uncles are docs and they both started medical school in their thirties (one from engineering, one from banking).
Andrew Lopez
Some questions: What happens when you don't get a match after graduation?
Do medical students have to do a bunch of extracurriculars bullshit even in med school too?
How would you practice your profession in the US and be able to permanently live there (asking as a Canadian)?
