Is it wrong to pass off fast food as your own in a restaurant?

Is it wrong to pass off fast food as your own in a restaurant?

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Legally, yes.
Morally, yes.
But at the same time, it's funny as fuck to see hipsters claim it's, "the best fried chicken I've ever had, bar none", because they spent $13 on it instead of $2.50.

The article says they don't hide the fact that they use Popeye's chicken and they have it written on the wall. Do these same faggots get assblasted that Dairy Queen uses Oreos in their Blizzards?

As long as they're open about it I guess it's fine. Plenty of things you get in restaurants are not made in-house anyway.
The people who actually go there and buy that chicken should be rounded up and shot, though.

>Legally, yes.
Why would it be illegal? There's nothing wrong with re-selling a product bought from somewhere else. That's what nearly every store in the world does.
Not to mention the fact that most low-end restaurants buy their food pre-made from big national suppliers like Sysco, Ben E Keith, PFG, etc. If you walk into most restaurants and order chicken tenders, fries, appetizer dishes like pickle chips, stuffed jalepenos, etc, those were likely bought from one of those big distributors and then re-heated when you order. Is that also illegal?

The only way that this would be illegal would be if the restuarant in question made one or more specific advertising claims that were untrue. Then it would be a case of false advertising. So, for example, if they said "breaded and battered in-house" then that would be a false claim. But as long as they didn't do that there is nothing at all illegal about it.

>The people who actually go there and buy that chicken should be rounded up and shot, though.

True

The article also says they serve it as chicken and waffles (hipsters.) They can't fry on site so they have to bring it in from somewhere.

HahahahahahHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH Fucking commifornians

If they made it clear that they are literally selling Popeye's™ Louisiana-Style Chicken© on their menu then I don't imagine it would be illegal. But then why all the hubbub if they made that clear, and why would anyone pay $13 for it?

Legally, they don't have to say they are selling Popeye's chicken. All they have to do is avoid making a false claim. Simply listing fried chicken on the menu but it happening to be from Popeye's is not illegal. As I mentioned, nearly every restaurant that sells chicken tenders is re-selling ones made by Sysco or similar. The same for french fries, hamburger patties, and so on. Few places actually cut their own fries or form their own patties--they buy them pre-made.

Anyway, from the thread it sounds like they were very clear in stating that the chicken did come from Popeyes.

>>and why would anyone pay $13 for it?
I'm pretty sure that's exactly what the hubbub is about. That seems like a high price for re-selling popeyes chicken. To answer your question, I have no idea why anyone would pay $13 for that. But then again I have no idea why someone would eat at, say, 5 guys either when you can do it yourself for a fraction of the price--yet plenty of people apparently think the convenience is worth the price.

seems like something Gordon Ramsay would discover in an episode of Kitchen Nightmares.

>this chicken is bloody delicious, who made it?
>we special order our chicken, chef.
>where?
>Popeyes.
>bloody 'ell. Who makes your breadsticks? Olive Garden?

So they literally advertise that they're giving your Popeye's but charging 5 times as much?
lol
Anyone that handed over the cash to these kikes has only themselves to blame

She claims that they have the fact written in the restaurant but I doubt she made it very clear they were selling Popeyes if people got this assblasted about it.

If they are selling Popeye's chicken you can't really be sure they stored it at a safe temperature. It's a pretty shitty restaurant and hopefully it'll get shut down or just go out of business from bad publicity.

>>bloody 'ell. Who makes your breadsticks? Olive Garden?
if your restaurant is still serving breadsticks there's bigger problems than where they source them from

Why would a restaurant's storage practices have anything to do with what kind of food it is they are storing? They could be safe or unsafe regardless of what they are storing/selling.

Doesn't all Popeyes have to do is just not allow them to buy a shitload of their chicken? They have "The Right to refuse service" and all that

why would popeyes do that though? they're making a good sale and at worst no one knows it's their chicken at best its free advertisement

>selling Popeye's™ Louisiana-Style Chicken© on their menu
What you described is the only way that it would be illegal.
If you're using another company's name and notoriety to achieve success, then you have a big legal problem here.

No

I especially love all the 1 star yelp reviews coming out now. I cant fucking stand the way shit works now. So fucking dumb. The restaurant didnt even do anything wrong and they even had a board that told people the chicken was from popeyes.

Of course all it takes is one dumb faggot hipster to walk in with his nose in the air to make a big fuss over nothin and then all his little fag hipster friends come outta the woodwork to leave 1star reviews for a place theyve never been.

I cant fucking stand people

>Doesn't all Popeyes have to do is just not allow them to buy a shitload of their chicken?
Why would they want to do that? This doesn't hurt popeye's in the least. In fact, they profit from it because they're selling more chicken.

If anything Popeye's would want to encourage it, not stop it.

The restaurant is shit tier
Their managers are kikes
The clientle are dumb

But why wouldn't they just make their own fried chicken? It's literally as easy as it gets. You don't even need a fucking deep fryer, I've had fried chicken from some amazing Japanese and Vietnamese joints that just have woks full of oil.
I'm struggling to see how this benefits them at a cost per production ratio.

America does it again.

>chicken and waffles (hipsters.)
that's not a "hipster" food, you dunce. it's been a staple in the south for decades.

>t. restaurant owner

>If you're using another company's name and notoriety to achieve success, then you have a big legal problem here

Utter bullshit.
That would be saying it would be illegal for McDonalds to advertise that they were selling Coca-Cola, for example. Or for your local supermarket to advertise any kind of brand.

There is nothing illegal about selling a product from a different producer. The only thing that would be illegal would be if they made a false claim, like saying the chicken was made in-house when in reality it was not.

Pho was a peasant food but now hipsters have appropriated it.

When you want Popeyes but don't want to be near Popeyes clientele

Every decades old staple has great potential as hipster food.

I'm from the South and I've never had it, and rarely seen it either. Most people around where I grew up and live currently(GA and NC) just have biscuits and fries with their fried chicken.

>it's been a staple in the south for decades.
Right. But in California it's a new thing that hipsters have discovered because it's new to that region.

Whether food is normal or exotic depends entirely on location.

People eat that shit up. There's an aggressively-mediocre Italian place in my town that's been there for years. It's popular with the "soccer team and nostalgia" crowd. Everybody jerks off about their breadsticks. They do make the breadsticks in-house all day, but they're literally just dumped on a platter with some clarified butter and garlic salt. I've worked there, there's literally nothing special about the recipe.

Its not really that new, roscoes opened up in the 70s

That's because chicken & waffles started in Harlem and traveled south. I blame Patti LaBelle for bringing it to Georgia.

>in California it's a new thing
>new to that region
*ahem*

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roscoe's_House_of_Chicken_and_Waffles

This was in Long Beach, CA and the guy's name was Tyler.

It seems like everybody's getting hung up about

>muh $13

Besides the headline, there's nothing in the article about the $13 dish, but it's made clear that the chicken is only used as an ingredient.

>taking a fox news article seriously, ever

Hold still while I ejaculate on your face, it's been a staple in porn for decades.

Just because Roscoe's has been around for a long time doesn't mean that Hipsters found it yet.

Popeye isn't protesting this. Busybodies with too much time on the internet is.

In Long Beach, chicken and waffles joints have been around since your daddy was a tyke. Where I live, it's served in every generic greasy spoon with "waffle" or "country" in the name.

>reddit

Highly advisable that you consider returning

Roscoes is like one of the most popular places in LA my man

But do they have aurora borealis in their kitchen?

Reading the whole article is indicative of reddit? Maybe you should consider visiting.

>Roscoes is like one of the most popular places in LA my man

I'm sure it is. That doesn't have anything to do with the recent chicken and waffles fad nation-wide.

Are you a fucking idiot?
Do you think McDonalds gets their soda from the local grocery store?
No, they fucking get deals from official distributors.

Buying another restaurants food and reselling it is completely fucking different, you mental defective.

Why would it matter if they got it from a distributor or a grocery store? The point is that one company is selling another company's brand name product. There's nothing illegal or unusual about that.

And, FYI, plenty of small mom-n-pop restaurants do indeed buy sodas from the grocery store, or a place like Sam's or Costco.

>>Buying another restaurants food and reselling it is completely fucking different
In the context of a legal discussion there is zero difference.

I'll be happy to stand corrected if you can cite the specific law this violates. But I think you have zero legal knowledge and you're raging because this triggered you for some reason. But I assure you there is nothing illegal about re-selling another restaurant's food. It happens often.

As others have posted above the only way this would be illegal is if there was a false claim involved, and there doesn't seem to be any of that here. In fact it seems like they were very open about disclosing their source of chicken. That isn't even legally required.

Don't know what fad you're talking about but the story in question is about an LA restaurant.

Steamed hams?

Keep moving those goal-posts son, you got proven wrong and can't admit it.

>why would anyone pay $13 for it?
Convenience.
>get chicken amd waffles here
Or
>get chicken from Popeyes
>drive home
>pop an Eggo in the toaster
>pour syrup and eat
Not defending it, by the way.

Perhaps I didn't word my original point clearly enough, or it was misunderstood my point.

Nobody claimed that chicken and waffles didn't exist in California until recently.

My point was that hipsters are in on the current trend of chicken and waffles. It used to be a niche thing, now it's much more well known. The existence of roscoes from decades ago doesn't have anything to with trends.

For example, people have been eating avocados for decades. Yet now they are trendy. Bacon has existed for centuries, yet there was a recent bacon fad a few years back. Same thing with chicken and waffles.

>> the story in question is about an LA restaurant.
Yes. I'm sure that restaurants all over the country are in on the trend, LA included.

>they fucking get deals from official distributors
Surprisingly, they don't unless they're in the same city as a major regional distributor AND have enough sales volume to justify it, like McDonald's.

is right, a lot of mom & pops and local chains buy from the grocery store for better deals. Plus, going through a distributor, you often get locked into a contract with that company.

> hipsters are in on the current trend of chicken and waffles
Do you have a source for that? Saying there's a chicken and waffles trend in LA is like saying there's a sushi trend in Japan. You don't know what you're talking about. Post a news article about this "trend" you just made up or shut the fuck up.

>Saying there's a chicken and waffles trend in LA

I'm saying there is one everywhere. I live in a small town in Texas. I had heard about chicken and waffles years ago but I have never seen it for sale. In the last few years it's been everywhere. In my town there are two food trucks and 3 sit-down restaurants selling it. When I travel on business I see "chicken and waffles" in places that I'd never expect it, like Ohio.

>>Post a news article about this "trend"
Sure.
www.mercurynews.com/2016/02/18/food-trend-alert-waffle-mania-is-on-the-rise/
www.restaurantbusinessonline.com/food/next-gen-chicken-and-waffles
browardpalmbeach.com/restaurants/the-13-most-overcooked-food-trends-of-2013-9-haute-chicken-and-waffles-6905437

>2013-2016
>fad

I said it was a Trend, not a fad.

And there are countless more articles if you care to google it.

It sounds like now that you've been fucking told you are now deflecting by resorting to semantic arguments.

Never change, Veeky Forums,

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>Why would it be illegal? There's nothing wrong with re-selling a product bought from somewhere else
there actually is, popyes could sue them.

>popyes could sue them.
For what, exactly?

There's nothing illegal about selling a product that you bought from somewhere else. That's how every retail business operates. They buy products from elsewhere and re-sell them.

>There's nothing illegal about selling a product that you bought from somewhere else
not if you are a person but for a restaurant it is

>That's how every retail business operates
i think is a lisence or a permit thing, imagine if i started selling mcdonalds burgers, like if i opened my own restaurant chain, bought their burgers and sold them with my own toppings, dont you think they would have a problem with that
very few places actually resell food, outside of gas stations wich are directly supplied by the companies and any caffee that buys their pastries from someone else wich again, have a contract for that or at least a spoken agreement

I hate this meme.

I grew up in the South and ive never heard of chicken and waffles together until I watched Deuce Bigalow: European Giggilo

>8 people responded to this post

Death to all, 3 of you will experience it by the 23rd of Oct. No idea which ones though, may not be you dying but someone you know

That's not really a good analogy, if I bought a two liter of soda and replaced the label with user's Soda and said it was mine that would not be ok. Grocery stores don't rebrand products

>not if you are a person but for a restaurant it is
Absolute BS. I challenge you to name the law.

The vast majority of restaurants serve food that was made off the premises. Go to most places and order chicken tenders? It came from pic related. So did the burger buns, the burger patties, the sauces, etc. Fuck, haven't you ever seen a brand name condiment bottle on a restaurant table? Do you think there is a Heinz Ketchup factory hidden away in the kitchen back there?

>i think is a lisence or a permit thing
It's not. Name the license or permit you need. It's all in your head.

>>imagine if i started selling mcdonalds burgers
There would be nothing wrong with that, as long as you weren't using the McDonalds trademark without authorization. If you were selling burgers that you happened to buy from McDonald's there is nothing illegal about that. And why would McD's care? So long as you aren't abusing their trademark all you're doing is giving them business.

>>very few places actually resell food
You have that backwards. Aside from the few (usually high-end) places that make everything from scratch, the overwhelming majority of foods are made by big national companies and re-sold.

>> have a contract for that or at least a spoken agreement
What do those things (civil agreements) have to do with criminal law?

its fraud, its a crime. Im not a lawyer but its obviously ilegal, otherwise you could have your local movie theater selling mcnuggets, chains are very protective of their poducts, are you 13? its fraud
>burger buns
thats not the same at all and you know it, bread and condiments are sold at grocery stores for anyone to buy and use, if you eat a burger and get food poisoning it doesnt reflect badly on heinz

Popeye's chicken isn't even that good but this thread is making me want some.

>And why would McD's care?
because someone ends up buying a bigmac from a dirty gas station run by ilegals and gets sick as fuck and then either sues mcdonalds o it goe viral on social media and it costs millions just to deal with the issue

Difference being that Oreo has licensed DQ to use their product

>its fraud
How so? Fraud is when you make untrue claims about the food. Where is the "untrue claim" here? If the place said that the chicken was made "in house" but in reality came from Popeye's, then yes, that would be fraud. But nobody made that claim.

>>otherwise you could have your local movie theater selling mcnuggets
If they sold whatever random brand of nuggets under the McDonald's name that would be both fraud and misuse of a trademark. If they were re-selling McD's nuggets as such then that would be perfectly legal. Just as how they sell Coca-Cola, name brand candy, etc.

>>thats not the same at all and you know it
Legally there is no distinction. Company A buys a product from Company B and sells it to the public. Happens in every retail shop in the world.

>Where is the "untrue claim" here?
we made this chicken

>we made this chicken
Nobody ever said that. They even stated clearly that they were selling Popeye's chicken. It says it on the fucking menu. Did you even read the article in question?

Not to mention that it really doesn't matter who made it. The overwhelming majority of chicken (or anything else, really) served at restaurants was made offsite by a company like Sysco, Gordon Food Service, Ben E Keith, PFG, and so on.

You walk in and order a fried chicken sandwich. The kitchen heats up a Ben E Keith pre-breaded piece of chicken, sticks it in a Mrs. Baird's bun, sticks a slice of Kraft cheese on it, and takes it out to your table where you have your choice of Heinz Ketchup, French's Mustard, etc. None of that was made in-house.

>The overwhelming majority of chicken (or anything else, really) served at restaurants was made offsite by a company like Sysco
fucking this
i have no idea why people are so in the dark about this. unless youre talking gordon ramsay tier places it's all 90% made offsite and purchased from fucking sysco.

pasta sauce? salad dressing? soups? in bigass bulk cans. same with steamed veggies, most sides. you think we slice the veggies and steam em 'in house? lol. they come pre-bagged in portion size servings. we toss 'em into a big pot or use a microwave to heat them up then dump the perfectly measured portion onto your plate. fried foods come pre-breaded and frozen. we just dunk 'em into the fryer. fries? those come pre-blanched and frozen. again, those go straight into the fryer. little appetizers like jalapeno poppers? same thing. they come pre-stuffed and breaded from sysco. we just fry 'em to order. burger patties? pre-made. buns cake and pie? we buy those pre-made too, from US Foods at where I work. gravy? powder mix we rehyhdrate in the back.

we do cook our steaks to order (they come pre-cut and pre-marinaded--sysco again), and we make our own salads but most stuff is bought from sysco. we heat it up and plate it and serve it

Not that guy but it didn't actually say it on the menu. The owner claims it's written on a board in the restaurant somewhere but the article doesn't show it.

Can we stop idolizing fucking cooks now

>tfw there are so few Simpsons jokes

Is this a real post? Because its fraud, popeyes owns ever possible legal identity related to their product.

Born and raised in the south and never eaten chicken and waffles, it's nigger food not southern food. Absolute trash.

>it's been a staple in the south for decades.
BULLSHIT.

Lived in Georgia, Texas, Virginia and Florida, and worked in the Carolinas, Alabama, and Louisianan, and NOBODY serves that stupid shit.

That's some Yankee nigger shit.

'Imported from Louisiana this week, thank you Popeyes'
I don't know but that sign seems vague.

How is it fraud?
Fuck you and every wannabe lawyer in this thread that has NO fucking idea what they're talking about.
"It's illegal! It has to be illegal! It's fraud! It's infringement! It's something!"
YOU
HAVE
NO
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Kek, this shit sounds exactly like a Nathan For You marketing ploy.

Yeah, except every fucking Waffle House ever, which was founded in Georgia. Eat shit.

A meal is more than chemical composition of food. Taste is more than chemical analysis of food by taste buds.

The quality of meal vastly depends on your mood. The atmosphere of the place. Service, presentation, ability to relax, pleasant environment, the impression, possibly company.

If the restaurant sells you conditions to enjoy good food, along with the food, there's nothing wrong about it.

You will enjoy it much more than if you had to rush eating it in a paper wrap while hurrying for a meeting, driving a car, as some asshole cuts you off.

You will enjoy it more than if you're sitting by a tiny table at a fast food joint with screaming kids bumping into you, people glaring at you waiting for you to vacate the place, paper wrappers littering the floor, and a jerk by the next table yelling at someone over the phone.

If the place is nice, if you are given conditions where you can enjoy the meal, you may just as well pay extra.

I would argue it is absolutely illegal for them to transport popeyes chicken unless it had been brought down to a safe temperature in popeyes and delivered in a refrigerated truck, then reheated on location

food transportation is a big deal actually

I dont think you can unless they rebrand it and resell it as their own.
I mean, it's just chicken.
Popeyes meanwhile have their trademarket brand.
Theirs don't.

This. That right there is the extremely worrisome bit. What a creative way to give people food poisoning.

Don't worry, its the first thing I thought too.

But wouldn't that apply to ALL the ingredients that any restaurant orders in? What's unique about that in this specific case? Maintaining proper storage and transport temperatures is true of any and all foods purchased by any and all restaurants.

>Because its fraud,
You haven't explained why. Fraud is when you lie about a product. You make a claim that is false. Where is the false claim here? They fucking SAID on the MENU that it is Popeye's chicken. What, exactly, is the "lie"?

Does the menu at your local sports bar state that the fries came from PFG, the Jalapeno poppers are from Sysco, and the wings were from US Foods?

My local Dominoes store here in England got caught recently buying stacks and stacks of pizzas from Asda to sell as their own.
The video of it was funny as fuck... someone saw it happening in the store and followed them filming them asking them what they were doing...
The dude buying them was so fucking shook up it was glorious.

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Protip: most popular southern food is nigger food.

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