Jewish-dominated intellectual movements to develop radical critiques of gentile culture that are compatible with the...

Jews aren't just any outsiders, and your spin makes their subversive behavior sound almost noble. Not being from the nations they've been trying to squat in for thousands of years has led them to become essentially an anti-people, opposed to and continually agitating against their host. They define themselves by the inversion of that host's norms.

If socialism is on the rise why can't Americans get single payer or at the very least clean drinking water?

One of your feared socialist cultural zionist phantoms here.
We will win, spooked boi

It's no longer about the ideology. It's about power and economic control. Same thing here, globalists use nationalism when it suits them. They have no reason to be truthful, not to themselves, not to others.

it's cultural rather than economic

Give me a jewish ideal, and I'll find you a healthy opposing one.

Socialism only works in homogeneous countries like, until recently, European ones. The reason white tax paying Americans are opposed and always have been is because there is a massive underclass of blacks they didn't want to subsidize.

Socialism works under heavy strain. The bureaucracy weighs it down, and creates a dependent class that looks for its own interests. In most countries, they are called social democrats.
Now, there is nothing wrong with Asia rising, or Africa for that matter. However, why does it mean that we must get behind?

This is a thought strain that led to populism. I'm not exactly sure how it manages to surprise the leftists in every country they are pulling down to their bottomless pit.

I prefer Martin Luther's Elders of Zion.

Well that's closed-minded and gabby tier logic right there.

Enjoy digging your own grave.

>Denouncing perfectly good intellectuals, especially Einstein who was so clearly correct, because they're Jews.

How many layers of /pol/ are you on?

I agree my anonymous no doubt non jewish brother

oy vey these /pol/ posters insults are like another shoah!!

The same could be said of any diaspora. Buhuhuhu a beaner is using my local healthcare. Woe is me a beaner is lowering my property values. Egads a beaner has 12 kids and they go to school with my kid.

You're generalizing, and mad you weren't born with that A+ good Jewbrain.

GOD I HATE THEM SO MUCH. WHY WON'T THESES STUPID BEANER-JEWS INTEGRAAAAAAATE. WHY DO THEY HAVE THEIR BEANER-JEW ENCLAVES. WHAT ARE THEY PLOTTING????

>Jewish-dominated intellectual movements to develop radical critiques of gentile culture that are compatible with the continuity of Jewish identification
Well, to be a Jew is to not be a Christian or Muslim in one sense of the definition, so it would be natural for Jews to develop a critique cultures/religions/traditions other than their own. To be fair, a problem arises though when Muslims or Christians are impeded from critiquing Judaism and Jewish culture and traditions. It's a two way street, to be fair. I'm a Jew, and I personally welcome outside perspective with regards to faith and customs, but in the same breathe, I would like that criticism to be established on fair base other than "le holohoax, gas the kikes 14/88." That being said, there's also many things that we fucked up which we should own up to, like Jewish involvement among the Bolsheviks and the collapse of Imperial Russia, as well as the current status of Palestinians in Israel today. In addition, I would also say that more should also be done within the community to distance ourselves from immoral businessmen like George Soros, where his industry of dissolving sovereign nations though fabricating crisis and chaos goes against the ethos of modern secular Jewish culture. That's just imo.

>socialism only works in homogeneous countries
This, or if everyone subscribes to a pre iterated doctrine, which is true of many modern Israeli citizens.

Except it can't. Jews are unique in that they are a mentally sick people who others eventually kick out of their nations because of their subversive nature and general dishonest practices. That's not something to envy, bud.

I'm a patient person but why should I listen to you half-assedly ramble on about DA JOOS? Especially when you are only proving your child-like understanding of sociology?

t. an actual Beaner-Jew

I am a Jew and can confirm. You are completely right and there is nothing your emotionally castrated ramblings and /pol/ can do about it. We are coming after you, goyim.

Yes, jews are an ethnic group with strong ingroup/outgroup morality and highly problematic for any majority people whose country they establish themselves in.

You really understand nothing.

jews may be conspicuous proponents of some of the ideas that led to some of the things you are thinking of, but now everyone participates. the principles of materialistic, secular individualism is promoted by structures way outside the scope of modern judaism. thinking about it racially is not effective or correct, of course. not to mention, it is just a misunderstanding of what is and is not possible deliberately.

Boy I sure am loving all this literature discussion

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I bet you take it up the ass

This
I have no clue who this man is, but what a failed and self-unaware individual he is. He has the body type of a postmenopausal housewife who had three kids and still gets excited about Midwestern fair food, but feels bad for indulging the next day and orders a salad at the drive-thru from McDonalds in her beat up Honda Odyssey mini-van.

I'm sorry, I know I'm a brainlet, but what did Einstein do that was a critique of Gentile culture?

Would that be a problem if I did?

>Marxism is a Jewish movement created to destroy the noble entrepreneurial West, which is ruled by corporations run by the Jews, and is propagated by mainstream media, also run by the Jews
Makes perfect sense.

>t. an actual Beaner-Jew
With the intellect of the former.

And it's chutzpah as displayed here that is the reason why your people will be removed yet again.

Tfw this hit too close to home

This is definitely interesting. The individual's rights to exist are taken for granted elsewhere and projected onto the state along with other memes (apple pie, honesty to a fault, grandma, baseball) just as in any other nation. Except DA JOOS were actually dropped into the Levant in the mid-20th century and given land to make a new state. Right to exist seems rather hypocritical then. Stuff to think about.

Nothing. OP is a bigger brainlet than you. He uses ideology and the natural human tendency for scapegoating to confirm his bias. The result is a confusing mess of Jews being sinister masterminds who bring down nations, when the simple fact is all these countries experience declines and usually cuck themselves.

Despite this, it's been a good thread.

At least he's honest enough to admit it, perhaps if other cultures and ethnicity had this level of insight with regards to their own community, then the world would be a stronger, more functioning place. Who doesn't want to see their own people thrive in prosper? Regardless Jew, Christian, Muslim, White or Black.

Thinking about these issues racially is the only way to understand them, of course. The jews think about them racially, whites should too. Jews promoting mass immigration into other people's nations is in their biological interest because they stand out less and can get away with more. Whether they do this 100% intentionally doesn't ultimately matter. They do it, it has a negative effect, and they must be stopped from doing it further.

You ever read "The Lottery in Babylon"? Jew-conspiracy theories are kind of like that

Freud covered this. Death drive. It makes sense all the Abrahamic men of the west (Iran & Co incl) are plotting to destroy themselves.

Precisely. It's natural and healthy. I want to see whites thrive again but that will only happen when jews are removed. Jews are parasites, they promote weakness in others and feed off of it.

Woops reply meant for this guy. I haven't had my Liquid Jew today, mind's not running right.

I love living in a world where analysis based on economic class interests is thrown away in favor of theories about hidden racial agendas embedded in entire civilizations based on their ancestry. This is a real political argument that the current youth is engaged in.

There were groups of Ashkenazi Jews who left Russia, Eastern Europe for the Levantine during the mid to late 19th century for a better, communal based-life when pogroms were still at problem. These individuals were esstentially proto Zionists, but more so through action than ideology. Historically speaking, the Muslim Arabs and Bedouins didn't have a problem with the Ashkenazi settling and farming the land until after WWI. While it's kind of a long story, the two greatest conflicts that emerged between the Ashkenazi and Levantine Muslims were: a.) basic definitions of land ownership and property rights on a communal level and b.) population bomb. In short terms, the Muslims were pissed that they were barred from farming on Ashkenazi land, once arid before the introduction of irrigation systems. The Ashkenazi brought improved farming techniques by digging ditches to channel water from sea, expanding the presence of arable land and their agricultural output. Under Ottoman law, the Muslims had practiced of 7 or 8 year rotation of tenant farming while the Jews argued that their community had outright bought the rights to the land. There were also structures and institutions introduced by the Jews which were not privy to the native people, adding more fuel to the fire. When shit hit the fan in Europe, more Jews started immigrating, threatening Arab control. To be fair, the Jews did lead a short of genocide against the native Palestinians after the 1948 War. Neither side is perfect in this story though.

Socialism/social democracy only works in wealthy homogenous countries like Scandinavia until recently. Now that it its no longer homogenous and all the industry that produced exports are gone, you're stuck with a rising debt bubble to delude yourself into thinking you're rich while half of what you earn goes to the "New Europeans" as infrastructure declines.

you are confused. promotion of mass migration is not a distinct, stand-alone phenomenon, nor are jews its only proponents - far from it. in your laziness, you are settling for shit explanations. all-consuming modernity is a manifest fact, and will continue to be, regardless of whether jews are around or not.

anti-semitism allows plebs to conceptualize a coherent will out of a chaos of independent actors working for their own interests within a political/social system. it's a way to redefine their alienation as a struggle, and their undesirable circumstances as the machinations of an enemy, to give it meaning. it's basically a secular version of attributing every bad event to God's mysterious ways.

LMAO

A descent from Judaism to Christianity to "Pauline" to Nestorian to Islamic? I think this is actually the best case in which one could use the word "pseud" -- in the sense of, pseudoscientific, pseudoscholarly. This is so stupid I can't even laugh. You can't use this type of genealogical tree with religions, to call Christianity a part of Judaism and Islam a part of Nestorian. The sad part is that the person who made this included so many things and probably thinks they were being very smart and correct.

Also, Cathars from Catholics and not from Gnosticism? Again, this is why a format like this doesn't work for religions. Islam is not a sect of Nestorian Christianity, it is a completely different religion, just like Christianity was born from Judaism but became completely different; also, as with the Cathar/Gnostic/Catholic, such a chart won't sufficiently show complex influences.

Finally, this makes it seem as if Islam comes from Nestorian Christianity or Christianity from Judaism the same way that, say, Anglicans split up into Baptist and Methodist. It's a false equivalence, making it seem as if Islam and Christianity are sects of Judaism on the same equivalence Baptist and Methodist are just Christian sects.

I'm stunned at this. Either that person is really stupid, or really biased in some direction and trying to make propagada. Hope i didn't get b8d

>it's basically a secular version of attributing every bad event to God's mysterious ways

right on the money

If only Veeky Forums had a board dedicated specifically to politics.

So do I, and I like the way you put that.

The jew will try to distract you from your racial/group interest by telling you that the world is really about abstract ideology and utopian idealism (communism, liberalism, constitutionalism, Christianity, multicultural democracy, feminism etc etc.), that when boiled down is little more than hot air. Meanwhile, he and his tribe are trying to enact their own racial agenda in your country under your nose. The truth is, race and will to power are all that matters. And the jew, because his small numbers and nomadic nature, has simply found a subversive way of achieving that for his own group.

Is it weird for a non-Jew to think the Talmud is a shit interpretation of (presumably, at the time it was written) the oral tradition/lecture explaining the Torah, but to find Kabbalah interesting?

>studied the major scriptures of each major religion to get a better understanding of people with "faith"
>still find solipsism the most interesting/incomprehensible

The promotion of mass immigration into white European nations is a direct result of jewish action resulting from their increase in institutional power since WW2. Anyone who says otherwise is either uninformed or a liar.

you are doing what you are accusing them of: being reductive. what you're describing may help to explain some pre-requisities for anti-semitism, but not the complete phenomenon. what people need to do is to tease out the historical, racial, philosophical, psychological, etc. aspects of what is in any one particular case being caused 'anti-semitism', or else it becomes an enormous net, all of which can be dismissed as hatin'.

i think this is particularly a problem for something like the materialism of modernity. it's an idea and a way of life. anti-semetics don't do anything but blame it on the jews, and so nothing is done. their critics dismiss the concerns because of their anti-semetic premises, and so nothing is done. the conversation ends at one about anti-semetism and judaism, not materialism in modernity. if either of these groups came to the table in good faith, the real problems would become apparent.

I'm honestly amazed at the mental setup required to reach conclusions like this and hold it as a coherent political view. How does one even start replying to things like this?
This whole website is a fascinating study of constructing ideologies entirely from memes, and the lunacy of starting to take them at face value.

really compelling stuff guy. it's gay because i can tell from your post both how badly you want to believe it, and how tentative your confidence is - let it go.

The problem here lies with you. OMGing and I-Cant-Even-ing is not a rebuttal and ultimately makes you alone look foolish. Now, would you care to try again?

The funny part is that guy is right and made one of the best reactions possible to your kind (complete bafflement), but there's a barrier of misunderstanding separating you from the rest of the world and from sanity which makes you think you're the correct one.

Or who knows, maybe I'm wrong and you're actually on the correct side of this barrier.

See: Holier than thou dismissiveness will only continue to provide you with diminishing marginal returns, Shlomo.

If you can't make a counter argument you should remain quiet and work on educating yourself further on the matters being discussed.

Okay, so I am the Jew here that's been replying to your posts. While I think divisions in people are entirely healthy, I think what the "white" community needs to do is define more clearly as what it means to be "white," hence I am putting that term in quotations. In the area where I live, most Southern Italians and Jews (not only Ashkenazi, Sephardic as well as Mizrahi) consider themselves "white." I've known people of Caribbean and Latin ancestry to label themselves as white and in some cases, this is true as they descended from European immigrants. For example, look up German expat communities living in Southern Brazil. The FLDS, Amish and the Hutterites are also good communities to explore when attempting to define "whiteness." You have to ask yourself, is "whiteness" something that can be acquired? Is "whiteness" something that is genetically inherent? Is it something based on haplogroup or ancestral location? Is it a set of values or standards for living? Or is it an intersection of all these things? You will also have to include ideals and concepts that do not define "whiteness." We, as Jews, have to do the same thing, we have to provide shape and definition to our identity. Again, I also suggest that you do some anthropological and sociological research, because there are very distinct classes formed both by regional custom and socioeconomic factors that has lead to very distinct classes of "white" people, as there has among the Jews. The next thing that you have to do is provide legitimacy your views, and to do this you have to develop arguments as well as a language that will persuade people. Calling a Jew outright "a parasite" is going to turn off a lot of fair-minded people to your plight, but you could restructure the argument to say, "There is evidence that shows suggests historically Jewish communities and secular European communities (I use this term, because that is what I think you are trying to define whiteness as) have not always gotten along, for these reasons..."

Idk, I have nothing against ethnocentricity, but the greater issues our communities (both "white" and Jewish) seem to be facing today is lack of identity and definition. One of the reasons why movements like BLM and La Raza are really taking foot today is because have created specific parameters for who they are culturally, racially, socially and politically.

The point of what you call reductive critique is not specifically aimed at anti-semitic thoughts.

Anti-semitism is just a particular strain of specific mode of thinking. And that mode of thinking can be explained by the search for an organized meaning and direction in an otherwise chaotic world (plus a general culture of suspiscion)

The discourse than can be widened by including historical, sociologial, cultural and political factors only when the question on anti-semitism goes to "Why specifically the jews?"
But there's no need to, jews are "floating signifier", you could subtitute it with whatever you want (Illuminati, communists, Satan, armenians), the way that mode of thinking procedes would be exactly the same.

I feel the same way. I work with several people who have really dedicated a lot of time and energy to Talmudic study, the Kabbalah is a superior work. That's just imo

Read any economic theory written since the 18th century for a rebuttal of your views. Asking for an argument when your position is so far outside of reasonable discourse is basically like holding to the theories of Aristotelian cosmology in the current year. You are simply insane.

you're absolutely right that it can't be summarized in one clean and simple psychological theory. what I posted is more a side of or perspective on anti-semitism, rather than a definite explanation, and the underlying issues it springs from are very real (as they are when superstitious peoples interpret natural disasters as divine punishment; the disaster is very much real). the problem is of course that a sufficiently accurate model of anti-semitism would become useless as an explanation, as it would simply depict what it describes. some level of reduction is always necessary.

you are such a brainlet, and have such a victim complex, and have been so brainwashed by youtube videos )i'm sure you can hear their arguments going off in yer head right now) that you cannot tell when people are agreeing with you in some respect. it might be time to re-roll the dice on things. maybe taking your own life will help

This, basically.

u wot m8

"Outside of reasonable discourse"? That you have set up such fictional parameters in your mind explain why you fail to understand the topic being discussed.

agreed

good post, especially this
>jews are "floating signifier", you could subtitute it with whatever you want (Illuminati, communists, Satan, armenians), the way that mode of thinking procedes would be exactly the same.

I don't want to argue with you because you have such a complex, ridiculous, conspiratorial view. Even the Illuminati is a more sympathetic, tenable view to me.

In fact, YOU'RE the one who hasn't supported your claim. All you said is that Jews try to to distract you by telling you the world is about abstract ideology and that race and will to power are all that matter and put no evidence behind it. There's nothing to argue against.

>Hope i didn't get b8d

user-kun, I... I have to tell you, something...

Yes, I generally understand and agree. The few points I would make is that: 1) the "Irish and Italians weren't seen as white" is largely overblown and misunderstood. 2) I define white as very simply someone from the European continent. 3) I would not consider any jew over 1/4 white. Ashkenazim are typically around half Italian (going back to the Roman Empire days) and half middle eastern genetically but I think the middle eastern part is just too corrosive to allow any wiggle room for acceptance. Besides, jews have Israel now, they should go there.

I do appreciate your stated appreciation for all people to be able to determine the future of their own ethnic kin, but the problem is that you're an outlier. If there were even a marginal faction of jews speaking out for white interests, the tone you dislike would be less necessary; unfortunately that is not the case.

Please use proper spelling, punctuation, and grammar if you would like to have your input taken seriously in this thread. Thank you.

are you sure you didn't like reddit more? think of all the upvotes you could get. all your friends miss you.

>Even the Illuminati is a more sympathetic, tenable view to me.
This only assists in explaining why you are unable to comprehend the arguments being put forward by people like myself.

I've never posted in reddit and have only been there a handful of times. Please don't waste other people's time if you are unable to contribute to the discussion.

Can you imagine if this place had real moderation?

i remeber a vid of a russin gai
he tryed his hardedst 2 thingk of innsalts
putt 2 moased off-fencive he cood to get her
>niggerjew
>jus' like u

Ban me, mods, I triple-dog dare jew.

/thread

The mods generally ban you maybe ten hours after whatever you did, so your post will be fine until you come back tomorrow and find you have a ban just short enough for you not to really care.

Arguing with this "view" is pointless because, according to this dude, you probably belong to an ethnicity whose internal nature isn't capable of grasping the truth in the first place. Or, you have a distant Jewish ancestry and are thus biologically committed to destroying western civilization.
Remember, every political position except ethnonationalist corporatism is a crafty jewish ploy.

Replying indirectly to the source whose argument you are distorting is poor etiquette.

>ethnonationalist corporatism
sounds pretty jewish desu

nationalism is a jewish plot to encourage infighting between the superior european nations. everyone knows that

The Talmud is as far removed from pre-second temple judaism as is possible. I mean all that reincarnation biz and other crazy innovations are clearly unbiblical and further removed from original Judaism than Christianity itself.

So if you ask me, Jews are indeed the synagogue of Satan we're warned about in Revelation.

>so many people can't be wrong about the jews
>anti-semetism's unpopularity is because everyone else is retarded and wrong

Ephesians 3 (NIV)
God’s Marvelous Plan for the Gentiles

1 For this reason I, Paul, the prisoner of Christ Jesus for the sake of you Gentiles—

2 Surely you have heard about the administration of God’s grace that was given to me for you, 3 that is, the mystery made known to me by revelation, as I have already written briefly. 4 In reading this, then, you will be able to understand my insight into the mystery of Christ, 5 which was not made known to people in other generations as it has now been revealed by the Spirit to God’s holy apostles and prophets. 6 This mystery is that through the gospel the Gentiles are heirs together with Israel, members together of one body, and sharers together in the promise in Christ Jesus.

OP permanently BTFO

>Be a nigger
>Can't into critique
Wowza

People are social animals, and there are major social penalties in place for speaking negatively about jews. The herd mentality you've just displayed says more than I think you're capable of understanding.

im much smarter than you are

Clearly.

>hidden racial agendas
It's not hidden at all.