What's the big problem with "daylight savings"? over here we just call it putting the clocks forward/back...

what's the big problem with "daylight savings"? over here we just call it putting the clocks forward/back, why is it such a big deal in the americas?

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Most people here like "daylight savings"
Florida wants to go on it year round.

The system is a compromise because farmers complained they'd have to get up and milk the cows in the dark. There was a lot more farmers back then and their votes counted.

Now that most people work 9-5 (or similar), they'd prefer more light in the evening so they can do something after work.

>Now that most people work 9-5 (or similar), they'd prefer more light in the evening so they can do something after work.

that's why you put the clocks forward in spring though isnt it?

Yes. And it's why people hate to set them back in the fall. There isn't much daylight to be taken advantage of in the dead of winter, but most people would rather see what there is show up later in the day.
Moving the clocks ahead is (in essence) moving the Sun back. So it both rises and sets later.

We're on 'Daylight Savings' eight months out of the year. Why even bother changing back to Standard? It's just a hassle, changes sleep patterns, unaware people miss appointments, astronomers always gotta go double-checking conversion to UT...
If you don't want to get up at dark to milk cows... get up later. You don't need to change the world for Bessie.
Noon was supposed to be when the Sun transits. But if you live near a time zone line, you're half an hour off anyway. So screw the transit thing and just go full tard and keep DST.

Non-DST is the optimal time
It's physiologically impossible to get to sleep if the sun is up.
Staying awake past dawn is the easiest thing in the world.
People that wake up early are the most productive and useful in society.
Let's not fuck up their natural schedule for useless brainlets whose sole pastime is partying and drinking alcohol.

the government even fucks up the clock twice a year
keeps everyone time lagged and fucked in the head so the gov can do more damage and have control
assholes need to be stomped

>It's physiologically impossible to get to sleep if the sun is up.
and here's another big fat liar

It's just another case of Americans complaining about everything and making mountains out of molehills

Fun aside - clocks and watches are always advertised showing 10:10 or 01:50 because it makes it look "happy" and you're more likely to buy it.

Why don't the farmers milk the cows at whatever time they please? They don't need to stick to the clock.

Dairy farmers tend to milk the cows at sunrise, no matter what the clock time.
Daylight Time has nothing to do with farming, and never did.

>People that wake up early are the most productive and useful in society
There are different kinds of sleep/wake cycle types. We're not all the same.

It originates from the war, and is about saving energy. But at what cost? I view it as an experiment, proving to us that we need to live in harmony with nature's cycles. The calendar is pretty weird too.
It's been shown that when the clocls are pushed forward, there is an increase in: heart attacks by 25%, strokes, car accidents, an increase in both injuries and the level of severity and tiredness persisting for around 10 weeks. The EU is thinking of scrapping it, i agree with that.

bullshit

Whatever you say chump

There is no such thing as 'Daylight Savings Time'. Did you perhaps mean 'Daylight Saving Time'?

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no clue where you came up with this fantasy. farmers were one of the biggest opponents of DST. Cows are ready for milking based on the sun, not the clock. DST now meant the farmer had an hour less time between when they could milk the cows vs when they were expected to get the milk to market.

Let's move the clocks forward 2 hours and save twice as much energy. Or just move them forward 24 hrs and save 24x the energy.

The real reason for DST is not energy conservation, it's economic. DST doesn't save energy except in studies paid for by people who want to see it having a saving. However under DST, people are more likely to shop during business hours if it's not dark. The big factor is so the politicians can spend more time golfing in the evening before it gets dark.
I'm surprised Obama didn't claim DST as part of Obamacare, claiming it gets people more likely to get out and do needed exercise, making them healthier

It does save electricity if the power and lights have to be on less. It also increases economic output, which gives an edge over competiting economies.
Regarding the clock - 12am (start of the day) should be pinned to sunrise. We could and should use multiple clocks. A clock schedule for circadian rhythms, and another for scientific time. And more. The egyptians used to have varying hour length based on the seasons, but still 24 "hours" each day

www.scientificamerican.com/article/does-daylight-saving-times-save-energy/

Officially yes. But you could argue that although it is for daylight saving, it is about multiple savings of multiple things.

If it's that important to anyone or business that they start an hour earlier, just do it. Those people don't really have to screw up the world's clocks just to accommodate them.

fuck off neet, it's not like that changes anything for you

Wow - what's *your* stake, compelling you to sound like an edgy stumblebum?

That's mostly a meme. Farmers get up at either can't see o' clock or can't see o' clock.