At which point in your life did you realize they were right about everything?

This post hurt me, and I think that was the point.

I realized some time ago that historical materialism is essentially correct, and large amounts of philosophy is idealist systematizing which nobly but fruitlessly searches for extra-historical truths. It's given me a whole new perception, however I wouldn't say I'm right about most things.

>surrealism
>dude dreams lmao

Rec me a good book on them (hmm why am I doubting no one here can... experience maybe)

youre retarded

You have to read Marinetti's complete works

I'm not the one claiming "philosophical value"

gotta go fast

Futurist Manifesto sums it up pretty neatly. They despised everything old and traditional and had a huge hard on for speed, technology and destruction. They aestheticised WW1 with its tanks and chemical weapons as a huge cataclysmic event in which the individual human life was completely subjugated to man-made machinery.

I think there's a big lesson behind all that. Futurists really teach you to move forward and to ignore everything lost, everything futile, everything that could represent a regret for you. It's basically the only existing philosophy that promotes pure and unconditional creativity

BAM ZUNG ZIGA ZIGA GANG GANG

is nick land a futurist?

Are these quads?

You miserably failed

Somehow

A year ago I wrote an essay for school shitting on them and praising Yesenin. I don't know what sort of brain damage I'd have to suffer from to change my mind.
I mean, they are sort of neat aesthetically but taking them seriously is pure idiocy.

why are italians so dominant aesthetically

You are the first brain-damaged idiot if you think you have to take them seriously. They were provocateurs, incendiaries, artists. Their thought shines through excess, but it's not excessive. You weight their words and then you draw conclusions, you don't read them as you would read a rational philosopher. They were >implying all the time, not >stating.

What do I do if I want fast dreams?

The futurists would be funny if they weren't dead serious about how good their art is. Most of it is so ridiculous it hurts.

>Burliuk
Literally who?

Have some Boccioni, man.

And what's exactly the philosophy of futurism?

He's a russian futurist. I admit Boccioni was more talented but this painting is just a Seurat knockoff with a futurist theme shoehorned in.

It's basically Tyler Durden's Project Mayhem.

It's not explicitly defined, it's rather based on the implications of Marinetti's writings. Basically, Furutism is against anything stagnant. It calls for infinite change, which is what life is all about. Destruction is necessary to upgrade; without destruction there's no creativity and I find this to be very true.

Sucking Mussolini's dick for national museums they won't even get. I guess they could be called cucks.

You're the only cuck here

>Underrated

Almost any style a futurist tried to do was done better by another artist a few years before. They should have stuck with unedible food recepies, that's what they were great at.

Masquerading regress as progress

I guess if you have a very simple way of viewing art, maybe.

How would you describe this painting?

Hahaha find one artist that did this before Boccioni

Embarrassing (and wrong) oversimplification.

Cycling into the Anus of Time

Wrote a paper on the influence on Futurism on Antonioni's Red Desert. It's a real shame that Futurist cinema never really amounted to anything, despite it being the best medium for their ideas.
I don't think there is a complete English translation of Marinetti's works, but most of the important ones are available in translation.
If you want a general overview of the movement, it's worth reading:
The Foundation and Manifesto of Futurism
Let's Murder the Moonlight
War, the World's only Hygiene
Beyond Communism was an interesting read too; there's a section in which Marinetti directly addresses the notion of people being "citizens of the world" that has become more popular these days.
If you want to learn about specific Futurist media, then you can read the specific manifestos (i.e. manifesto on literature; on sculpture; on cinema etc.)
There's also Marinetti's writings outside of theory, like Zang Tumb Tumb (extended poem, very experimental) and his short story "The Untameables" which is a strange sort of sci-fi

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It looks like a cover of a Radiohead's album

Sounds great but I don't think that endless destruction would lead to endless creativity and for what I saw, I'd say that Surrealism is more crative and better aesthetically.

You chose a good painting, I like this one. Its dynamism is similar to what can be seen in early Kandinsky, with the abstraction replaced by the futurist reactionary attitude of attempting classicism by sticking to representation.

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It may be aesthetically better, but after a while you realize futurist art has more unity

>has more unity

Can you explain this in a way that's not total bullshit?

Noise is the most enduring contribution the futurist made to the arts. Really makes you think.

russolo is our guy

Every time I manage to have control over my dreams, I go super fast and then the rising heart beat wakes me up.
Doesn't matter if it's rocket, skydiving, slalom or waterfall or any of that.

Boccioni is more coherent than Dalì. Dalì wanted to represent the unconscious world, the realm of dreams... but that means everything and nothing. You can see lots of different things in your dreams and fantasies. This leads to a break into numerous details and fragments of reality, plainly visible in Dalì's paintings. There are disproportions: you find gigantic animals like elephants and giraffes in the foreground and almost microscopic objects in the background or in other parts of the picture. Don't get me wrong: I like Dalì, but I've always found paintings with more compositional unity more pleasant. Maybe De Chirico is a good example of this, regarding Surrealism. But, focusing back to Futurism, Boccioni's sense of oneness is incomparable. He looks more like an Impressionist than a 20th century's experimenter: whilst devoting his personal research to the subjects of speed and movement, he tries to capture the unique vision of reality, or of a single fragment of reality. Every element in his paintings are melted together in this fleeting moment, there's almost a stretch to grasp the noumenic essence of reality. Personally, I love artists who are able to transmit this kind of search, to make me think about it.

Why?

>wops
>right

lol

But he has no respect for silence, desu.

Makes me think of how great they are, it's not their fault mr. autistic Japanese mememan had to shit up the genre.

youtube.com/watch?v=VXA1XoV81QM

As long as you keep your artistic consumption within the borders of Italy you'll never be disappointed.

Too soon ;_;

kek

Post your favorite futurist Veeky Forums

Its philosophical value bridges the gap between Rousseau and Postmodernism.

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A combination of the organic body and the metallic/mechanic. The mechanic is imbued with all the shortcomings of the body such as desire, the earth, its cycles (essentially the feminine) and man becomes the expressed and externalised will reigning over space and time (vectors).

Not who you are responding to but

>Dalì wanted to represent the unconscious world, the realm of dreams... but that means everything and nothing.

not entirely true:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paranoiac-critical_method

I prefer Facist aesthetics

this
Boccioni was the man
Too bad about the war thing

Balla was more than just Futurism -- pic related

Holy shit, is that a painting? I stared at it for a minute before realizing it was not a photo.

>Here is the furious copulation of battle, the gigantic vulva stirred by the friction of courage, monstrous vulva that spreads open the better to offer itself to the terrific spasm of our coming victory! It’s ours, the victory is ours . . . I’m certain of it because the madmen are already tossing their hearts into the air, like bombs! . . . I’m raising my sights to a hundred meters! Ready! Aim! . . . Fire! . . . Our blood? . . . Yes! All of it, in big clots, to recolor the sickened dawns of the Earth! . . . Yes, we know how to warm you between our smoking-hot arms, oh impoverished sun, decrepit and chilled, shivering on the summit of Gorisankar! . . .
What did the Futurists mean by this?

Eia, eia, eia! Alala!

That's a reasonable position desu

There was a fair amount of crossover in the early days, and even into the late 20s-mid 30s when Futurism started being less important, Italian fascist aesthetics were still more interesting than the Nazi stuff

kanye

It's getting there.

looks like fun