Intelligent

>"""studying""" languages that are essentially english with different vocabulary
haha okay

Studied Japanese last year, taking N1 in december. Currently studying Russian. I'm coming for you, ドスト

I'm learning French too. I find a lot of the words hard to pronounce but it's not nearly as difficult to learn as I was told it would be.

disgusting weeb

Nigga what grammar? English is half of Europe's languages but with random parts of the grammar removed.

I'm learning French too. Although I'd love to learn Japanese the required time commitment is obscene and I'm not nearly as motivated as I am for French, since I'm interested in French literature.

Not OP, but Assimil is really good; Duolingo is free.

Try this. It's dry, but good.

fsi-language-courses.net/fsi-introduction-to-french-phonology/

You're correct for the wrong reasons unless I'm mistaken, it's "writing (...) is improving" not "languages is improving", but maybe that was your point and I'm just being pedantic.

Maybe there's something obvious about French pronunciation, but as a non-native speaker it feels to me just as arbitrary as English except even lazier.

> romanian
How did you end up learning that? Romanian heritage?

This. What are the best ways to learn French? There's been a detailed thread about it a while back, but I can't find it and can't find my notes (if I even took any in the first place). Someone mentioned buying/pirating some courses, but I can't remember which ones.

Pourquoi es-tu si vulgaire ?
Pour ton information, "cuck" se dit "cocu" en français.
Si tu veux paraître pour un con, au moins fais le correctement.

English grammar is pretty easy compared to Swedish and French but the pronunciation rules of English (or lack thereof) are ass.

Fuck off weeb cunt. Focus your energy on Russian.

Ïntêllëcquetuèlle, acqchouallie. Eew meust use ze surjonctif féminin moins-que-parfait, eew species of filsy américain consumeur de bourgueurs!

Probably since the accents on letters tell you how words should be pronounced, whereas in English there are none and its on you to remember what way a particular letter is pronounced in a different word.

So what's the absolute best way to learn french? Aside from literature there's a few french math textbooks that I'd like to try reading.

je ne sais pas. c'est marrant.

>best way
Literally just start.
Assimil, FSI, French in Action, Duolingo, language class, etc. Pick one and just do it.
You waste too much time looking for the best way.

C'est quoi ce or-àouse? Yeur „„french"" is like zaet of old marocaine syphillitique bacque alléy arlot, yeue offspring of a cunt-monger!

>duolingo
>thinks it's a good start
I speak 4 different languages, 3 different alphabets, duolingo is trash.

Tu me fait chié, lesse Jamal apprendre le français et niquer les femmes.

Number of languages doesn't mean shit if you don't name them.
How many non Indo-European languages do you speak?

>3 different alphabets
Literally the task of remembering 20 to 50 symbols, are you even trying?

English grammar is actually fairly easy. It's the amount of idioms and phrasal verbs that make it hard and even then daily exposure to it through media helps a lot. I think it's Churchill who once said something along the lines of "English is an easy language to speak poorly".

>>Monolingual
Considering how many different dialects the English language has, and how different they are, a good versatile writer can probably be considered duolingual.

Nogbonics is a primitive form of English, its not a separate language.

Is this bait?

>duolingual
Yes it must be

Call me basic or unoriginal, but I too and just starting French. My long term gf is a French major and got me some of Camus' works in French for my birthday, and part of my present was that she is going to tech me.

Come to think of it, that sounds like a shitty Veeky Forums porn.

If you live in an anglophone country shouldn't you learn more important things? That's not to say that learning languages is not important, but seriously how many times would NEED french? I'm learning french actually myself, and I'm a burger, but I'm having doubts lately and I'm wondering if it is really worth it. I'm no master even in my own language and I am learning another language because I want to visit there someday or something... I don't really even know why I am learning it.

A duolingual must be someone who "learned" their second language from duolingo.

If you have a reason to learn French then learn French, if not then don't. You could learn coding instead and make money off of that, but if you'd rather read French lit than make money by coding then who cares? Just do what you want man.

>shitty

How long did it take you to get this stage? I've spent around 3 months hard core studying Japanese and am at around N4 level. I can translate basic children's books but goddam learning a language is hard.

Part of learning a language is much more than simply speaking it.

No,

Learning a language imbues you with a brand new line of reasoning. A new way of describing the world around you, but accentuating concepts your first language never included.

Take English and German for instance. They say things in a different order, and as someone learning German I noticed they group words based on function / how they work, which could explain where the fabled 'German Engineering' meme comes from.

After 7 months I had 241 on JCat, a week after the one year mark I tried an N1 practice test and passed and these days I'm 280ish on JCat.
Just read a lot, maybe do the dictionary of Japanese grammar anki deck. I basically went into Dies Irae an N3 and came out an N1.

I don't get why you need to justify a hobby like this.
You learned German? Great. Doesn't make you an engineer in any way.

You passed N1 just after a year? Impressive. How many hours were you doing a day? Also, do you happen to be either Chinese or Korean?

Great story.
How did you find the time to do it? I'd imagine N1 level in one year took some intensive study.

it's more for adding to the thread on why learning a language has more benefits than one would realise from first glance.

And I'm saying that benefit you cited is BS.

Well being gifted with an additional line of reasoning is immeasurable benefit to any human, it should be considered as important as learning fundamental theory is.

Also, IQ is boosted by knowledge of theory. Theory introduces the individual to line of thoughts and reasoning they would not have arrived at naturally, and learning a new language does exactly this but in a much less direct way.

Hey now, if you kids go to Veeky Forums and get us some funding, we can get rolling this week.

2-3 hours a day, most progress was made when reading. Don't fall for the "too hard for your level" meme, just read what you feel like reading. I don't know, maybe what really made it click for me were the times I spent 10 minutes rereading a sentence over and over, googling parts of it to see more usages of it in context, and looking up individual words in extra dictionaries until I'd finally understand it.
Mind you, all I did was reading and studying vocabulary and grammar, my speaking and listening is behind. Then again, it's been surprisingly easy catching up on them thanks to my over all understanding of the language.
Not Korean or Chinese, just a yuropoor.

I'm polylingual, nihilistic, with a wicked sense of humor.

>I watched Arrival and now think I'm a linguist
Please go back to plebbit thanks

t. pseud - the post

I have no interest in learning a language to speak it.
Well I'm anti social.
Although I adore linguistics, been subscribed to Jackson Crawford on YouTube for 5 months.
Would like to be able to read wtf these
>weǵʰ- *per- *tar-
weird symbols mean.

>If you're French and can speak Italian, that only counts as 1.5 languages.
>Otherwise I can say I speak 4 languages, which I don't

>2-3 hours a day
Do you have a job?

University student. It's not like I spent three hours a day reading grammar textbooks and studying vocab, I just switched to Japanese reading material.

I took German all through highschool and college. With some effort, I can read German literature, though I do so at a frustratingly slow pace.

My Italian is enough to read the news, but not really serious literature yet. This is self taught from Duolingo, and some grammar workbooks, and reading newspapers and simple shit, so my accent is horrendous.

I also just like using Duolingo for fun. I completed French, Spanish, Esperanto and Norwegian. I'm working through Hungarian, which is a real challenge and different way of thinking.

Of course, it's all pointless since I'm afraid to talk to people.

He's European, they don't have to

Aside from Italians Americans have it much easier to NEET through life than Europeans.

English is the most easy language to learn. Grammar is ridiculously simple compared to Romance languages. Its only problem is the retarded phonetic. A single vowel can have 10 different pronunciations. I guess it's because English has grown very spontaneously.

>english is the most easy language to learn
I'd think it was intentional if your whole sentence wasn't screaming underage esl

Third-worlders have overconfidence about their English ability.

Don't we all

Not an argument.

Go home 1 dimensional plebs.

So? It's correct usage, no?

I dont need a second language because im not a cuck. Who the fuck wants to hang out with third worlders?

How come people degrade down to "I-it's grammatically correct!" even after understanding the concept of natural and unnatural use of a language whenever it comes to their own writing?

>Now that I have finished Duolingo, i'm going to learn more advanced French grammar

You've a very deluded conception of how one should approach learning languages

>There's a correct way.

There's no one correct way that fits all, but I think user was implying that there's indeed a wrong approach

I was wrong because I should've said "easiest" in place of "most easy", right?

From an outsider's perspective, which language do you find more complex in terms of grammar? Are the thought patterns of Russian as odd as they say?

Ok wonderful, let's hear it boy genius. What's the proper way, probably told by a shut-in reject who doesn't know any other languages.

Lay it on man, I know this is going to be brilliant and non-ego driven.

I am a jelly liner

>tu
Francophile ici omd

>tfw forgot my first language

how rare do you think this is? I completely forgot how to speak Arabic after like age 4.

Semi-fluent in Mandarin. Daily studying. German is next. If I could have my way I would then learn Korean Russian and French. Wifey speaks Cantonese and it revs my engine

I got halfway through duo german and I can't even read kafka. Now I'm switching to Greek. ADD life.

>non Indo-European languages

Two questions:
How fluent will you be finishing duolingo?
Also how long does finishing take?

t. monoling retard

Don't bother. Get some proper studying material and practice with literature and people IRL.

You're not ADD, you're just too dumb to get through German grammar.

>Tfw becoming monolingual again

Its simple, at the point user has reached his work should be on practising comprehension skills not learning more grammer.
You can have all the grammer in the world understood analytically but you wont be able to speak for shit without intuitvely practising fluency in basic mechanisms of speach and listening.

I would say any grammer past the point Duolingo teaches you is of only academic interest and will have marginal aid in understanding the language.

It's easy to attain a basic level for practical communication, is what you mean. I've never read a non native who could write like one, not even Contad.

*grammar

I'd reccomend doing all in like a week or two to get the fundamentals down, then move onto an actual program. This is because you'll only learn to speak like a bumbling retard with Duolingo, but it still teaches the barebone fundamentals.

Shit can I shitpost the same shit I do on /int/?

Duolingo is inefficient garbage btw.

I'm learning French. Have read l'étranger, la chute, la peste. What to read next? If I read any more Camus I'm going to blow my brains out.

I don't think it's possible to learn that.

Mandarin. Then, onto classical...
Man I'm the opposite. My vocab's pretty good, but my grammar's nonexistent.

Which is lucky for my Mandarin, I guess, because as always Chinese autism triumphs over all.
Fucking weebs

are we to assume that intelligence is not an innate quality but rather the result of jumping through specified hoops?

t. brainlet

so you admit intelligence is innate rather than acquired? so surely learning or not learning a language has nothing to do with intelligence?

>"""studying""" languages that are essentially english with different vocabulary

You realize that French has a completely different grammatical structure than English right? English is a germanic language while French is romantic. The vocabulary is actually the thing they have in common rather than being different.

Quebecois are looked down upon in Parisian society. That is all.

Parisians are looked down on by society.

i just felt like calling you a dummy because i smelled insecurity with "jumping through specified hoops". no great thoughts.

>mfw english and spanish

Hey José

Started learning German and Spanish but can't force myself to continue because there's no reason to.
I'm not planning to move to either of those in the near future.

My Italian's rusty, to say the least. Any book recommendation? Nothing too complicated, let's say i'm a rusty B2