New Nick Land article

dude is a bit of a sophist and plays fast and loose with language in a way that tells me he's on adderral

dude just like extrapolate from current trends
what could go wrong?

Is there a glossary for all this jargon?

Start with William Gibson because aesthetics matter

What's the 'weird twitter' hashtag that links to all the dank nick land memes?

>If so, the future will be hard. There can be no realistic doubt that it will be extremely divided. The dynamo driving things tends irresistibly in that direction. Try to split, and it whirls faster.

Alienation is the current running underneath everything and it seems to be getting worse. Am I a le wrong generation fag for thinking we're going to go the same path as japan, no communities, declining birth rate, living to work despite being surrounded by technological miracles

still better than what we have in europe right now where the only ones giving birth are 3rd world scum and muslim parasites invited by treacherous criminals called governments.

Why is Nick such a poor writer?

Thanks for the enlightened discourse
Now fuck off back to /pol/

oh sorry butthurt leftie
the truth is toxic for delusional faggots like you
that's what Land spills out in Outside in every day

Henry Adams already made this point a hundred years ago. Land is also a very bad writer. Clearly spent too much time in academia.

take some acid, it will make more sense

Proddies are trash.

>blame protestants
Find someone to sweat who hasn't an alibi for a change.

Nick Land uses almost zero jargon, his prose is pretty simple if you have a grasp of the problems he presents, almost tautological. Try to read some Hegel or Kant.

go to the website "google.com"
In the white empty row, enter the text that you like to know more about.

Wouldn't the most logical move to resist atomization, at this point, be flat-out destruction? Just blow it all up and hope everything resets once the dust settles.

this is brilliant

Actually kind of made me rethink the whole whiggism/anti-whiggism

there was some article on protestanism somewhere recently linking it to current crisis (dont really remember the premise). I think I probably got it from Veeky Forums. Do anybody know what I am talking about by any chance?

was it Moldbug?

Land's diagnosis of individualism is correct, but he's missing what protestantism is rooted in - though it really accelerated the process.

+ Lovecraft

it's rooted in Gnosticism

What the fuck are you talking about? This is not about the "goddamn librul degenerates".

>it's a subtle shill thread for that garbage rag "jacobite"

Gnosticism is an accompanying pathology that crops up every once in a while, like hypothyroidism to type 1 diabetes. Progressivism is basically the "gnosticism" of liberal secular humanism.

Resisting atomization is spreading it, because any and all revolutionary/protestant movements (not only in the gnostic sense of protestantism), are mere increases in the spectrum of CHOICE which brings about atomization to begin with. This is at the root of every of Land's claims about the Capital deserving a capital 'C' and the title of blind idiot god: it assimilates whatever you try building "outside" of it into itself, i.e, every revolutionary movement to break apart from dogma since the protestant revolution, only served to create new markets of choice inside the same kind of movements they wished to repel (think also of woodstock and today's hipster market derived from it).

When he and Moldbug talk about Exit instead of Voice it does not quite mean going against this flow but rather accelerating towards it; atomization is no longer a matter of choice. In this sense, even attempts at destruction are also turned into markets and intensify atomization with more conflicts of ideology (the Wahabis in Saudi Arabia and the crooks in Washington have mastered that long ago).

The only kind of destruction that would not simply bring more atomization into the table would be one that we could never recover from.

no it isnt. he is using individualism, like most other things, equivocally.

>he doesn't know about hypserstition

>plays fast and loose with language in a way that tells me he's on adderral
We've got a detective in our midst!

What does Land even think of Catholicism, anyway? Since he seems to diagnose the start of all this with the Reformation.

We had Land threads before Jacobin was created.

He talks about Catholicism in the article posted.

I read it, but I still can't quite get at what he thinks. He seems to have some fondness for it, but also seems to think that to be Catholic in this day and age is somewhat futile.

Besides being an oppositional force to capital (his side) along with socialism and fascism, I don't really think he cares much about it as a religion.

I have rarely, in my experience, ever read so much sophistry bloating up such few, simple ideas. Is this the greatness of Nick Land? He seems like an utterly conventional critical theory type, except beloved of contrarians due to some unorthodox politics.
The few simple ideas he puts forward in this article are pretty interesting, though. As for atomization, what I find most interesting about it is whether disliking it is a sign of low intellect. Personally, I don't see much that is bad about it. The modern Western individual who is a capable adult with a source of income, etc. has a lifestyle that is superior to that of the most powerful humans alive on Earth several hundred years ago, and plenty of opportunity to engage, not only in hedonism, but also in worthy pursuits such as science and other forms of scholarship.
What's so bad about all this?

Did we pass right through megastition? Perhaps the rush to a greater prefix itself prefixes the distancing that is inherent in any thought of an other which is merely predicated on the fetish of an absurd distance between self and that unrealized form, thereby generating a frisson that is the remaining shadow binding physical and, for lack of a better word, ante-occipital. You may think such a formulation strange, but in an age that accepts mind as first-order entity, metonymy regarding the matter is the only authentic point of poetic realization.

I really think that if you fix the economy, the declining birth rates will right themselves. I think that the problem of the bad economy and the hard work that is required in many places to sustain a first world lifestyle is an economic/political/technologic problem, not some sign that Western-style civilization is doomed on a philosophical/spiritual level.

>Waaaaah.... everybody who criticizes me must be a leftist... waaaaah... people should love my one-sentence summaries of conspiracy theories given with no evidence or logic to back them up...

You give me the opportunity to post it again:
"There is only one sane and healthy relation to Christianity; perfect indifference. Mine is not of that kind. My detestation for the Christian faith exhaustst my being, and more. I long for its God to exist, in order to slake myself as violence upon him. If there are torments coming to me, I want them; all of them; God experimenting in cruelty upon me. I want no lethargy in Hell, rather vigour and imagination. Oh yes, it is all very wretched, and if I am grateful to Christianity it is for one thing alone; it has tought me how to HATE.
[..]
I have not been a theist for a single second of my life. In my first assemblies at primary school, when the theist idiocy was first wheeled out, I remember thinking: it is natural that adults should lie to you, but is it really necessary for them to insult the intelligence quite this much? As for the longing to believe, nothing could be more alien to me, because nothing is more obvious than the fact that humanity--far from being a creation-- is a disease. Why should the absence of a divinity analogical to mankind be more disturbing than the absence of a giant tortoise supporting the world on its back?

I don't think Land sees it in a bad light per se, he only "sees it being unstoppable". And also, whereas it is not necessarily bad for the individual, it represents the death of all existing institutions and every single established collective idea; one might even extrapolate, as he and other hyperstition folks do, that we might as well cease to be human after the process has taken itself to the limit.

How do I practice accelerationism in daily life?

Whoever is struggling at writing should read more Land, then they'll realize the kind of edgy over the top Linkin-Parkian stuff passes for philosophy, and won't be so hard on themselves.

Right. I understand that Land doesn't view it as necessarily a bad thing. Sorry if I didn't make that clear. However, many people do see it as a bad thing despite of the fact that the West (and thus, essentially, all humanity, since all civilizations now follow the West one way or another) still seems to be trending toward greater quality of life and political freedom.

By just not stopping it, i.e, don't be a democrat (in the global, overarching sense of democracy, not the American party), don't attempt to undermine technology development in any way, etc. You can also mine cryptocurrency and sacrifice younglings to Moloch (by signing them up as guinea pigs in China), but that's optional.

>still seems to be trending toward greater quality of life and political freedom
A declining middle class in the West, the unshakeable popularity of authoritarians like Putin and the Chinese Communist Party and the breakdown of civilization in the Levant would like to interject for a moment.

And how do you "fix" the economy in an age of globalization? It is no secret that children are an increasingly costly investment, especially with college.

Oh so he's just a Hitchens-tier retard. Well, now I know not to take him seriously, thanks for enlightening me.

That font is degenerate.

Catholics, everyone.

why is this chode a meme again?

he's like the obscuranical twoddle pedalled by "continental philosophers" but without the panache

>he's like the obscuranical twoddle pedalled by "continental philosophers" but without the panache

>I have rarely, in my experience,
>As for atomization, what I find most interesting
>Personally, I don't see

Your post is full of atomization. You can imagine that in a previous culture, what YOU thought, would be much less relevant than what the community thought.

But to answer your post, Land doesn't see a problem with atomization, but many of his "allies" whether they are reactionary, conservative, socialist or otherwise DO have a problem with atomization. There is a lot of nostalgia for previous forms of community on the right. There is a lot wishful thinking about future utopias on the left.

Land's article is aiming at those who feel individualism is something to be destroyed, when that can only perpetuate schism, creating more atomization.

lol

I have a question for you about atomization, Veeky Forums

Do you think that human desires for family and community will eventually rebel against atomization? If atomization has advanced to the degree it has today because of our desire for individuality and choice, what happens when it starts to contradict our need for belonging?

>what happens when it starts to contradict our need for belonging?
Look at the suicide statistics. How can an individual organize against the organization which isolates him when his own will is very likely divided against itself? The situation is impossible; suicide the outcome.

>human desires for family and community.
is dying out. It starts in Japan and other big cities, and will grow. We live in the time of neets, nerds and wizards.

Don't forget dog parents. Saw a bumper sticker the other day it said "I Love My Granddogs!"

Can it? It seems to be a biological impulse. NEETdom and anime clearly isn't working as a substitute in Japan, look at their suicide rates

What is bad about atomization?
I honestly really like the idea.

Land argues that it is good.

Who the fuck is Land?

That is the point. What humans remain are not meant to remain as humans per se. The conciliation of belonging and atomization is no conciliation at all. Ironically enough, when that level of disconnection kicks in we'll probably be more or less hardwired into a collective network of sorts, like Facebook but Overdrive. You can reach out to everyone else, but no two parts can ever be conceived as a single one for any purpose, ever again (e.g family).

It's not bad but it shouldn't mean any "good" either, it just is. We're seeing the elimination and degeneration of aggregated phenomena (many beings acting as if they were a single one, like a political party of many different folks acting as if they all thought the same things) into a state of segregation of beings. That doesn't mean we will be isolated in an absolute sense, mind you, only that our way of living will be less like a solid material with tight connections and more like a gas inside a bottle with occasional collisions and only very weak bonding forces among entities.

So we'll live like posh prisoners? Mind, you do know this is only applicable to certain demographics and only within the first world.

Nick, the 16th century Catholic Church called, it wants it rhetoric back.

That's wrong though. The "break-up of society" is a rhetoric of anxiety that has been espoused since there was a fucking oikos.

Test

We may well be. The effects of the tech & internet culture in Japan & South Korea always struck me as somewhat telling.

Isn't he overcomplicating things here? Entropy increases as systems become more complex...?

Go away, we have a better meme now.

droolingpepe.jpg

2nd test

Actually I'm Brazilian, I sure as hell know it doesn't apply to me ayyy lmao. I supposed it would be like posh imprisoning, if you could see everyone else at once from your cell.

Whenever I read this stuff I read it as a thread of "myth" loosely being tied to another thread, of "reality". The reality thread might further elongate into that particular myth and knit itself strongly, driving the myth forward to reality, but it may also never happen and the bond breaks apart at some point.

So the way I see it, it's something that might happen in an uncertain future (not necessarily long term even, it might happen faster than we think), but even in the case it never happens, it remains nevertheless an interesting self-analysis of our times and where history has taken us so far.

Oh yeah i guess your gay lover is actually a really famous intellexual

>if you could see everyone else at once from your cell.
This is literally the final form of a panopticon

It's in the OP retard

I'm retarded but you're the one who doesn't understand irony.

good fucking post my man this is what i come to Veeky Forums to read

>totalitarianism 2.0 will be open source

>a self-propelling machine for incomprehensibly prolonged social disintegration

Question. Isn't Capital reassembling the threads at the same time that atomization takes them apart? Yes, liberalism continually increases the number of choices. Ok.

But as Capital continually augments itself isn't it going to streamline as well? Won't technological acceleration reterritorialize what consumption is continually deterritorializing?

Hahahahahahahaha How The Fuck Is Capital Real Hahahaha Nigga Just Walk Away From The Starbucks Like Nigga Close Your Bank Account Haha

faggot

>brainlets still caring about politics and philosophy

jfc yeah you're the retard here

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nigger

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At this point I'm tired of the number crunching that pretends to be politics. My enemies, that slimy category, has made the state a shit dispenser. They cry now that Trump forces them to be on the receiving end. Eye for eye, faggots.

Those who "rule" are too busy spinning the cogs to truly get any of it. Can't wait for this whole thing to eat itself apart. No more holy cows - you ruined my cathedrals and culture, now your desires and goals have to go. If you had none of them, then we will take your comfort away. Psychoanalysis utilized by political and economic interests, political models made to suit economic interests... It all has to go. It was formed in the alien minds of foreign religious groups anyway. Not that they have escaped, nay, they abort most of their would-be offspring - perhaps mere envy towards the 'free and liberated' victims of their brainwashing.

Once you reach rock bottom, you can always dig deeper. Eventually you will find more cornerstones to remove so that others would fall.

You ruined your cathedrals because you don't tithe and post on a mongolian picture sharing phoneline instead of going to the symphony.

Could it be possible! This retarded faggot on Veeky Forums has not heard that God is dead!

Punk's not dead