How can retards on this board actually believe that 0.999

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

How can retards on this board actually believe that 0.999... = 1? If it was equal to 1, you would just write 1.

Also... math using infinity does not exist, it is all flawed. Calculus is an approximation.

As well... the null set is not a subset of every step. To have no properties is not a property. Vacuous truths do not exist, they are just insanity.

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wolframalpha.com/input/?i=infinity
wolframalpha.com/input/?i=0.999...
youtu.be/Jm2D7ohWos0
youtu.be/6bdHBoG2bLY
media.hhmi.org/biointeractive/click/explore-your-inner-animals/?_ga=2.177473253.1301542994.1518480581-699706204.1518480581
brainu.org/lesson/virtual-neurons
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vacuous_truth
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Material_conditional
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Complete_metric_space
aynrandlexicon.com/lexicon/infinity.html
pastebin.com/LrPMrZR9
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equation
youtube.com/watch?v=TbeA1rhV0D0
youtube.com/watch?v=r5DHquP1HWU

Firespawn
Firespawn

sage

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Spazyfool
Spazyfool

Is this would this board relies on when they cannot offer a decent counter argument?

viagrandad
viagrandad

How can retards on this board actually believe that .5 + .5 = 1? If it was equal to 1, you would just write 1.

takes2long
takes2long

If it was equal to 1, you would just write 1
that's indeed the case, you can just write 1

massdebater
massdebater

More generally, every nonzero terminating decimal has two equal representations (for example, 8.32 and 8.31999...), a property true of all base representations. The utilitarian preference for the terminating decimal representation contributes to the misconception that it is the only representation. For this and other reasons—such as rigorous proofs relying on non-elementary techniques, properties, or disciplines—mathematics students can find the equality sufficiently counterintuitive that they question or reject it. This has been the subject of several studies in trolls on mathematics education.

likme
likme

1/3+1/3+1/3=1

1/3=0.333...

0.333...+0.333...+0.333...=0.999...

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

Vacuous truths do not exist
Yes they do. For example "If OP wasn't a faggot, he would make good threads."

Evilember
Evilember

OP, what is 9.999.../10 ?
is it =1 , >1 or <1 ?

Firespawn
Firespawn

There is no addition going on here. It is a single element.

This is just arbitrarily claimed. There is no reason for this to be the case. 0.999.. is simply close to 1, it does not equal 1.

1/3 does not equal 0.333...

This is not an example of a vacuous truth.

Flameblow
Flameblow

Oh boy. The infinitard is back

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

Very obviously it is less than 1.

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

is it more than 0.9 ?

StonedTime
StonedTime

Yes.

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

Your misunderstanding arises from the fact that you believe infinity is a real thing. The concept inherently states that it does not terminate and therefore it is not a number. There is no such thing as 0.999... numbers are definite. They are not changing.

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

is
9.999.../10 = 0.999... ?

King_Martha
King_Martha

1/3 does not equal 0.333...
user

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Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

1/3 does not equal 0.333...
it's just different notation we use to write about the same thing, same as 0.999... and 1 you fucking moron

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

1/3 = 3/10 + 1/30 = 0.3 + 1/30
= 0.3 + 3/100 + 1/300 = 0.33 + 1/300
= 0.33 + 3/1000 + 1/3000 = 0.333 + 1/3000
= 0.333... + 1/inf = 0.333... + 0 = 0.333...

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

/thread

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

I will address your responses when I wake up.

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

OP why dont you worry about furthering your education or doing something with your knowledge and accepting life for what it is instead of autistic screeching online.

Booteefool
Booteefool

How can retards on this board actually believe that 0.999... = 1?
it is true by definition.

If it was equal to 1, you would just write 1.
then 2/1=2 is false because I could just write 2?

Yes, I saged.

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

This is just arbitrarily claimed.
Like all of math, yes.

1/3 does not equal 0.333...
Wrong by definition.

Your misunderstanding arises from the fact that you believe infinity is a real thing.
If you want to do math outside of ZFC go ahead.
But don't make claims inside of ZFC, while denying ZFC.

You are doing a different mathematics.

girlDog
girlDog

So you also believe that 1.000... != 1, right? After all infinity can't exist so it's not a number.

DeathDog
DeathDog

this kills the 0.999...=1 denier

Flameblow
Flameblow

underrrated post

WebTool
WebTool

How can retards on this board actually believe that 2 + 2 = 4? If it was actually 4, you would just write 4.

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

Is eternity ever increasing or is eternity just eternal?
"To P or Not to P?", that is the question.
For whether it is nobler in the mind to have P = NP or to just let it equal to one.

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

Is eternity ever increasing or is eternity just eternal?

wolframalpha.com/input/?i=infinity
An unbounded quantity that is greater than every real number.

Bidwell
Bidwell

0.999... is less than 1
0.999... is not a number
Pick one retard.

hairygrape
hairygrape

wolframalpha.com/input/?i=0.999...

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

kek

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

The funny thing is that this retard linked to wolframalpha as evidence in the past yet wolframalpha itself does say that 0.999... repeating is 1.

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

Incorrect, tapping on zeroes does not change tjethe value of a number. No, most math is derived from real like axioms.
1/3 does not equal 0.333..., it is a flaw in your writing system. 1/3 exists on the number line but it is not 0.333..., that is simply an approximation.

I am claiming all infinity related math is based on false premises and should be treated like the autistic mind jerking it is.

Skullbone
Skullbone

Kys

Emberfire
Emberfire

Here's why:
Let's say 1/3 = 0.333... this is in base 10
1/3 * 3 = 1.
0.333... * 3 = 1

If 0.333... (repeating forever) is equal to 1/3, then 0.333... * 3 = 1. That is how fractions work.

However, 0.333... (if not being used in a fractional sense) is multiplied by 3, it will not be equal to one. 0.333 * 3 = 0.999... which is not equal to one. it is 0.00...1 less than 1.

Evilember
Evilember

No, most math is derived from real like axioms.
It is based on ZFC, brainlet.

1/3 does not equal 0.333
Wrong by definition.

1/3 exists on the number line but it is not 0.333...
Wrong by definition.

that is simply an approximation
Wrong by definition.

I am claiming all infinity related math is based on false premises and should be treated like the autistic mind jerking it is.
Okay.
You can change the axioms all you want, but you are doing other mathematics unrelated to everything else.

You are essentially redefining terms to fit your needs.

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

0.999... doesn't actually exist.

TechHater
TechHater

Wrong by definition.

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

I think the idea is that we know it's not equal to one so we find a separate isometry where it is equal to one and use that on our original plane.

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

Posting an image nullifies your sage.

Spamalot
Spamalot

1 is not 0.99999..
The difference is 0.0...1, the digit 1 comes after an infinite seqence of 0s.
After an infinite sequence..
Oh wait

takes2long
takes2long

it is 0.00...1 less than 1.
anything after "..." can be ignored
0.00...1=0.00...=0

idontknow
idontknow

At the end of an endless sequence.would be better said

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

Wow, they don’t teach you that one in the newfag academy.

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

Why do meme threads like these always get so many replies, while well thought ones are met with a barrage of insults and dismissals?
Are you all so bored?

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Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

I haven't posted in or even read the thread yet. Even then I know you're a complete brainlet, OP. You're completely ignorant of ALL THE RULES OF ANALYSIS. You don't know what LIMITS are, never seen an epsilon or delta in your life. You dont know know what CONVERGENCE or DIVERGENCE mean. You can only think of math in terms of physical counterparts and processes, unaware of the abstractions needed to properly understand the ideas. I've argued with you in maybe 4 other threads ad nauseam and there's nothing more to say besides "You're a mathlet who doesn't know shit".

happy_sad
happy_sad

These threads make me so goddamn mad

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

What is 0.000...1? Infinite 0s after the decimal place followed by a 1? Then that's just equal to 0 since you will never reach the 1 since there are infinite 0s before it

5mileys
5mileys

0 is zero.
1 is one.

0.99999 is somewhere in between.

All of you, fuck off!

There is a difference, obviously, from actual eternity and eternal approximation.

Reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

askme
askme

0.000....1 is not a real number

likme
likme

0.9999 =/= 9/10+9/100+9/1000... = 0.9... = 1

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

Explain exactly what you mean by 0.000...1 then. There is no convention of what ... means here

Playboyize
Playboyize

What have you done?

youtu.be/Jm2D7ohWos0

Evilember
Evilember

because your whining is so amusing

Firespawn
Firespawn

9/10+9/100+9/1000+.... by definition is equal to
[math]9*\lim_{m\to\infty}\sum_{n=1}^m10^{-n}[/math]

0.0...1 is utterly meaningless in ALL CONTEXTS.

RavySnake
RavySnake

tfw an user broke... everything.

youtu.be/6bdHBoG2bLY

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

Are you ? No? Then fuck off you dumb nigger

StonedTime
StonedTime

You responded to
Which is me. Youre so idiotic you can't keep track of your arguments.

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

identity math
stupidity, now extra strong

TechHater
TechHater

Don't reply to me ever again

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

0.0...1 is utterly meaningless in ALL CONTEXTS.
Which is why I asked to define what he means

FastChef
FastChef

Why? Can you not respond to my argument that 0.0...1 is meaningless?

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

To which I said 0.0...1 is not a real number and thus the conversation went. Are you actually autistic? What's your point?
0.9..=1

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

So what is 1/3 then?

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

0.000...1 is a real number if by 0.000...1 you mean [math]\lim_{x\to\infty}\frac{1}{x}[/math]

whereismyname
whereismyname

How is 0.000...1 meaningless. Can you not tell that he is trying to say infinite 0s followed by a 1?

Illusionz
Illusionz

How can retards on this board actually believe that 0.999... = 1? If it was equal to 1, you would just write 1.

How can retards on this board believe that 0.25 = 1/4? If it was equal to 1/4, you would just write 1/4.

Nice try plebs

Supergrass
Supergrass

1/3=3/10+3/100+3/1000+...=0.333...=a

3a=1

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

No, because 1/4 is 1 divided by 4. 0.25 is the actual number

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

You are mistaken

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

If we're defining [math]a=0.0...1=\lim_{n\to\infty}\frac{1}{n}[/math] then yeah, a=0. But a lot of these brainlet "0.999...=/=1" claimers try to construct 0.0...1 as some sort of weird infinitesimal... which it is not.

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

How?

Spamalot
Spamalot

Those are not equal

w8t4u
w8t4u

Refer to just replace all the 3s with 9s. You don't know basic mathematical definitions.

Bidwell
Bidwell

Wrong

Inmate
Inmate

Insufferable. You've given up.

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

your whining
huh? It was merely a question..

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Techpill
Techpill

3/10 + 3/100 + 3/1000 + ...
= 3 * sum of (1/10)^n, n from 1 to inf
= 3 * ((1/10)/ 1 - (1/10))
= 3 * (1/10 * 10/9) = 3/9 = 1/3

Methnerd
Methnerd

Not an argument

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

"Wrong" isn't an argument either. Do you read your responses before hitting send? What part is wrong?

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

KEK

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

This part is correct

Emberburn
Emberburn

Don't you guys ever get tired?

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Evilember
Evilember

1 is 1/1

Firespawn
Firespawn

Extremely. This fucker needs to leave my board.

SniperWish
SniperWish

Ignore baiters and they'll get bored

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

you can do the same for 0.999...
0.999.. = 9/10 + 9/100 + 9/1000 + ...
= 9 * (1/10 + 1/100 + 1/1000 + ...)
= 9 * sum of (1/10)^n, n from 1 to inf
= 9 * 1/9 = 9/9 = 1

DeathDog
DeathDog

I agree with everything, except the part where 0.999...=1

JunkTop
JunkTop

Then you're being patently illogical. You can't simultaneously think is correct and think is wrong. They are equivalent. 0.9...=1 is a direct result of

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

Well if it amuses you so much, then by all means go on. Gotta do something for that boredom. I suggest watching a few DONG videos from vsauce. They have some very entertaining sites to kill time.
Here's a couple of examples:

media.hhmi.org/biointeractive/click/explore-your-inner-animals/?_ga=2.177473253.1301542994.1518480581-699706204.1518480581

brainu.org/lesson/virtual-neurons

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Spazyfool
Spazyfool

trying this hard

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

I am claiming all infinity related math is based on false premises and should be treated like the autistic mind jerking it is.
So should we throw out anything that we learned based on infinity related math? Like calculus and differential equations? How about the physics that and all technology that stemmed from it? Good idea. I agree, but I think you should go first and get off the internet and trash your computer.

King_Martha
King_Martha

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lostmypassword
lostmypassword

If
0.999 *inf* 999 + 0.000 *inf* 001 = 1
Then call
0.999 *inf* 999 = A
And call
0.000 *inf* 001 = B

A + B = 1

A = 1 - B

Therefore.

A < 1

Methnerd
Methnerd

0.999 *inf* 999
0.000 *inf* 001
No such things.

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

0.999...999 is not a real number

Evilember
Evilember

Let 1/9= 0.111...

Multiplying both sides of the equation by 9 will give you:

1=0.999...

SniperWish
SniperWish

waah stop using infinity where I dont want you to

WebTool
WebTool

waah let me do whatever I want even if that's not how limits and sums work

eGremlin
eGremlin

There is no such thing as 0.000...1.

FastChef
FastChef

A = 1 - B
Therefore.
A < 1
What if B=0? Then A=1

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

waah only im allowed to use repeating decimals

Nojokur
Nojokur

Repeating decimals make sense only if then can be represented by an infinite sum. You a little dense? 0.9...9 cannot be represented as such so it makes no sense.

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

0.999...9 is the same as 0.999...

Supergrass
Supergrass

refer to

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

The proof still doesn't work because you didn't establish B>0

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

Decide that infinitively repeating decimals are wrong because can't reach infinity
0.000...1 is real even though that's literally a terminating digit after an infinite number of zeros.

Methshot
Methshot

Why do you keep making this thread?

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

Stop
Feeding
The
Troll

Everyone who pretends to not understand is trolling you.
Everyone who pretends to not understand is trolling you.
Everyone who pretends to not understand is trolling you.
Everyone who pretends to not understand is trolling you.

Stop making these fucking threads.

Make sure to report.

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

fuck off granpa, it's not your lawn

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

What are you talking about? I didn't post any proof

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

Stop spoonfeeding the retards

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

These threads are created to spot the true retards

girlDog
girlDog

For fuck's sake, Veeky Forums. This is the most obvious bait I've ever seen and you're still taking it.

iluvmen
iluvmen

it's a simple geometric series

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

[math]
x= \frac{1}{10} \\
0. \overline{9}=9x+9x^2+9x^3+9x^4+ \cdots \\
0. \overline{9}=9x \left (1+x+x^2+x^3+ \cdots \right ) \\
0. \overline{9}=(1-x) \left (1+\mathbf{x}+x^2+\mathbf{x^3}+x^4+ \cdots \right ) \\
0. \overline{9}=1-x+ \mathbf{x-x^2}+x^2-x^3+ \mathbf{x^3-x^4}+x^4-x^5+ \cdots \\
0. \overline{9}=1
[/math]

RavySnake
RavySnake

1 - 0.999...=/= 0
0.999...=/= 1
0.000...01 =/= 0

0.999... + 0.000...01 = 1

TechHater
TechHater

No such thing as 0.000...1

Bidwell
Bidwell

No such thing as 0.999...

Inmate
Inmate

0,9999... = 0,9+0,09... = 9*(0,1+0,01+...) = 9 * Sigma (from k=1 to infinity) (10^-k)
Which converges to 1.
This means 0,999... = 1.
What do I win?

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

0.999... + 0.000...01 = 1
1 + 0 = 1
duh

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

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Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

0.000...01 =/= 0

that doesn't exist.

girlDog
girlDog

by definition of the logical operator '= '
we have that a = b iff for all e>0 |a-b| < e

happy_sad
happy_sad

1/3 does not equal 0.333...

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RumChicken
RumChicken

1/3 does not equal 0.333...

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

I'm not going to quote the other 1/3 = 0.333... retards.

0.333 is the decimal APPROXIMATION of 1/3.
It does not EQUAL 1/3.

Also to the fags going 2+2 = 4, why not just write 4?
Use your brain to do things other than imagine anime girls. No one said two elements cannot combine to equal another element. The claim is that you are claiming singular elements are the EXACT same yet writing them differently in the same notation (decimal).

Infinity does not exist. 0.999... is not a number.

Retard that thinks convergence means equal. I guess asymptotes don't exist either!

I also like how none of you retards even tried to argue against me in regards to the null set. Just shows your level of education, if all you can argue against is 0.999.. != 1.

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

I also like how none of you retards even tried to argue against me in regards to the null set.
Hopefully I don't have to convince you that [math]a+0=a[/math]. You could say that every number is the same as that number combined with zero. Sometimes it's useful to acknowledge this fact, sometimes it's not, but it's always true. By the same logic, you can add the null set to any other set and not change the original set, ie. you can add zero to the set's cardinality and not change it. So, just like before, sometimes it's convenient to say that a set contains all it's stated elements and some extra nothing. Since you can do this with every set, [math]\emptyset[/math] is a subset of every set.

askme
askme

As per my previous statement, 0 is not an element. Retard.

iluvmen
iluvmen

[math]\emptyset \neq 0[/math]

Inmate
Inmate

The null set possesses no properties. Therefore it cannot be a subset of every set. It is also for this reason vacuous truths do not exist.

"All the females in this room are nude" when there are no females is not a true statement. It is a nonsensical one. Similarly, the null set is not a subset of every set.

likme
likme

This was to your previous statement that a + 0 = a. You are not adding two elements. You are simply saying a = a.

Methshot
Methshot

The null set possesses no properties. Therefore it cannot be a subset of every set.
That's a big ol' leap you took there between those two statements. Care to explain further?
"All the females in this room are nude" when there are no females is not a true statement.
How does this relate to null sets? If your original set is the set of females in the room, the null set would be something like the empty space in the room.
If this is what you really think, you may need to go back to high school algebra before you start arguing about set theory. Otherwise, you are one very committed troll indeed.

Emberfire
Emberfire

Something that does not exist and indeed is defined as having no properties can not be an element of anything at all.

It relates to null sets because of the idea that "having no properties" allows it to be a subset of every set. For this reason, it is said that all members of the empty set possess any and indeed all properties. And thus, if P --> Q and P is untrue, Q is always true. This is a nonsensical statement and it is only allowed due to the idea that the null set is a property of every set.

Also adhoms will not help you here. Go ahead and define how 0 is an element without just declaring it :) I say 0 has no elements.

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

Something that does not exist and indeed is defined as having no properties can not be an element of anything at all.
Empty sets do exist, just like empty rooms do, as in your example above. Also it's not really true that null sets have no properties: they have the property of being subsets of every set ;)
it is said that all members of the empty set possess any and indeed all properties.
It is said by whom? Null sets have no "members" so I'm not sure what you're trying to say here.
P --> Q and P is untrue, Q is always true.
You've got this wrong. If [math]P[/math] is false then the entire implication [math]P \implies Q[/math] is false, not [math]Q[/math] itself. There's nothing nonsensical about that.
Go ahead and define how 0 is an element without just declaring it
Again, 0 and the null set are not the same thing, and [math]\{0\} \neq \emptyset[/math].

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

You argue with the intelligence of a child.

Empty sets do not exist, they are the absence of existence. :thinking:

It is said by whom?
So you do not know what vacuous truths are? Here let google help you: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vacuous_truth

Educate yourself :)

You've got this wrong. If P is false then the entire implication P⟹Q is false, not Q itself

Incorrect, as per the above link.

Again, 0 and the null set are not the same thing, and {0}≠O.

You said a + 0 = a, not a + O.

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

Squares to Zero...

.9^2 = .81
.9^3 = .729
.9^4 = .6561

.99^2 = .9801
.99^3 = .970299
.99^4 = .96059601

.999^2 = .998001
.999^3 = .997002999
.999^4 = .996005996001

.9999^2 = .99980001
.9999^3 = .999700029999
.9999^4 = .9996000599960001

.99999^2 = .9999800001
.99999^3 = .999970000299999
.99999^4 = .99996000059999600001

.999999^2 = .999998000001
.999999^3 = .999997000002999999
.999999^4 = .999996000005999996000001

.9999999^2 = .99999980000001
.9999999^3 = .999999700000029999999
.9999999^4 = .9999996000000599999960000001

.99999999^2 = .9999999800000001
.99999999^3 = .999999970000000299999999
.99999999^4 = .99999998000000059999999600000001

.999999999^2 = .999999998000000001
.999999999^3 = .999999997000000002999999999
.999999999^4 = .999999996000000005999999996000000001

.9999999999^2 = .99999999980000000001
.9999999999^3 = .999999999700000000029999999999
.9999999999^4 = .9999999996000000000599999999960000000001

.99999999999^2 = .9999999999800000000001
.99999999999^3 = .999999999970000000000299999999999
.99999999999^4 = .99999999996000000000059999999999600000000001

.999999999999^2 = .999999999998000000000001
.999999999999^3 = .999999999997000000000002999999999999
.999999999999^4 = .999999999996000000000005999999999996000000000001

Do not Stop...

Zozo

ZoZo

w8t4u
w8t4u

ZOZO

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

Okay this is the last (You) you'll get out of me, then I'll just let the record stand.
Empty sets do not exist, they are the absence of existence.
The empty set does exist. The elements of the empty set do not exist. There is a difference. Pretend the set is a box. All the elements of the set are the things in the box. If the box is empty, does that mean the box doesn't exist, or the things inside it don't exist?
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vacuous_truth
Maybe you should take another look at that link because nowhere in it does it say "all members of the empty set possess any and indeed all properties." Statements *about* empty sets having any property are true. There is a difference. Implication statements like [math]P \implies Q[/math] are true or false, but that doesn't tell you necessarily whether the component statements [math]P[/math] and [math]Q[/math] are true. I'm not sure why you're so focused on vacuous truths anyway. They have nothing to do with whether every set contains the null set.
Incorrect, as per the above link.
How about this link? en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Material_conditional
You said a + 0 = a, not a + O.
Again, I have no idea what you're trying to say here.

Hope this helps!

Emberburn
Emberburn

0.333 is the decimal APPROXIMATION of 1/3.
but 0.333... is exact

lrn2read

SniperWish
SniperWish

post number settles it
/thread

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

When you're wrong and you want to run away!

The empty set does not exist, there is no box when you are talking about nothing at all.

"Pretend the set is a box"
nice job begging the question

Statements *about* empty sets having any property are true.

This is what I meant. This idea is nonsensical.

How about this link? en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Material_conditional

The entire idea that it is only false when P is true and Q false is a result of the idea that the null set is a subset of every set. Again, you have not explained how this is the case. You are claiming that "nothing" is apart of something, when to "be apart" means that it must exist. You are using circular logic.

Again, I have no idea what you're trying to say here.

That's fine, I'll take it as admission that you figured out you were wrong. And thus you ran away.

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

0.333.. is not exact idiot. Exact numbers (and all numbers) terminate. 0.333 does not terminate so it is not an exact number (or a number at all).

Infinities don't exist.

eGremlin
eGremlin

A is a set of all prime numbers which square of is a rational number.

I just defined an empty set. It exists just like any other set. The only difference is it has no elements.

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

Square root*

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

I can't even tell if this is bait anymore

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StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

It does not exist, there are no elements. You've not defined a set, you've merely made a statement.

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

I personally believe he is a genuine idiot who thinks he is smart.

whereismyname
whereismyname

Boxes do not exist if you don't put anything in them.

Lunatick
Lunatick

1.000...
retard

Booteefool
Booteefool

0.333.. is not exact
but it is, it's 1/3

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

Exact numbers terminate
Says who?

Playboyize
Playboyize

a friend of mine, lucille
she's always right

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

1/3+1/3+1/3=1
this is not true

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

"0.999..." is not a discrete number, it is an idea, that can only accurately be described by a function. That function has a limit of 1. And mathematics is nothing more than asymmetrical tautology. You don't take issue with:

1 + 1 = 2

Do you? And yet the two sides of that equivalency look vastly different.

likme
likme

awww, it's a retard

TechHater
TechHater

ZoZo rules Arithmetic!

FastChef
FastChef

no, he's right, you also need some duct tape or else you're stuck with 3 1/3s

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

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Gigastrength
Gigastrength

it's true if i say it twice

Emberburn
Emberburn

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Emberfire
Emberfire

it was a joke, dumbass

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

I guess nobody here studies maths...

Simple argument for all:

10*0.999... = 9.99...
9.99... - 0.999... = 9
9/9 = 1

This is what we just did:
(10*x - x)/9 = 1
Solve for x and you get 1. The equation above is of degree 1 so has at most 1 solution (in any field).

Now for the real reason 0.999... = 1:
The real numbers are just the completion of the rational numbers; 0.999... is a cauchy sequence 9/10 + 9/100 + 9/1000 + ... and hence converges to a unique number in the reals. In this case 1.

JunkTop
JunkTop

so convincing
it was a joke, dumbass

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

tl;dr
[math]
1 = \dfrac{3}{3} = 3 \cdot \dfrac{1}{3} = 3 \cdot 0.\bar{3} = 0.\bar{9}
[/math]

whereismyname
whereismyname

Well, it's true that infinity isn't really a defined value.

0.0... (with an infinite number of zeroes) 1 is certainly not the same as 0.0... (with an infinite number of zeroes and nothing more.)

Indeed, it's an infinitely small value, but
0.0...1 is not equivalent to 0.0...

This devolves into the "∞+1 =/= ∞" argument, though. I think the difference between this issue and the ∞+1 is simply that 0.0...1 has a defined difference, and we can kindof pinpoint it after an "infinite number" of zeroes.

The arguments for both sides tend to differ based on personal interpretation of an infinite repetition. It's an inherent issue with base 10, as I noted in .

Should we switch to duodecimal,
1/3 + 1/3 + 1/3 = 1 without dispute, as:
12/3 = 4 (base10)
1/3 = 0.4 (base12)
0.4 + 0.4 + 0.4 = 1. No infinite repetition, no problems.

Illusionz
Illusionz

who are you quoting, moron

cum2soon
cum2soon

There is no personal interpretation in maths...

Saying 0.0... with an infinite number of zeros then a 1 makes absolutely no sense. Neither in maths, nor with respect to any other reasoning.

takes2long
takes2long

0.0... (with an infinite number of zeroes) 1 is certainly not the same as 0.0...
yes it is, that's infinity doing its thing

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

There is no personal interpretation in maths
Yes there is, certainly on the cusp of new mathematics

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

Yes, 3/3 ≠ 1

JunkTop
JunkTop

Do you have a reference to back that up? Or are you just referring to the axiom of choice?

cum2soon
cum2soon

what's a real like axiom

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

In the hyperreals it could be [math]\epsilon[/math], the smallest number that's greater than 0.

Snarelure
Snarelure

Babies are being born right now who will grow up and start arguing this exact same thing in Veeky Forums thread #264778921.

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CouchChiller
CouchChiller

Yes, but people are forgetting that almost always this question is brought up because of something they saw off numberfile or in highschool.
The question is not framed in a context where the extended or hyperreals come into any sort of merit

Spamalot
Spamalot

Infantcide is the answer

takes2long
takes2long

1=1
not true

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Poker_Star
Poker_Star

1/3 does not equal 0.333...

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Flameblow
Flameblow

This thread is still alive?
Hahaha, holy shit! Seriously how fucking bored are you?
Arguing about the axioms of set theory and formal logic with respect to fucking 0.999... = 1
Why not post in one of the actual Veeky Forums threads instead of this meme-fest?

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New_Cliche
New_Cliche

So no one here is able to refute me? Pathetic. This is what math amounts to when you just let any retard in. I'm getting my PhD this year at a renowned university and I know 0.999 != 1. Yet you retards will believe anything you see on the internet.

Infinity is a construction, it has no use other than in approximations.
0.333.. != 1/3, the decimal number 1/3 does not exist. Base 10 doesn't allow it.

0.999... also does not exist. Limit does not mean equal, convergence does not mean equal. But go on believing whatever Veeky Forums tells you and dont listen to a PhD.

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

I very much doubt you are getting a PhD in mathematics... Do you even know what the real numbers are? It doesn’t seem like it

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

I am. And I do. I very much wonder how many people here on Veeky Forums actually study mathematics if this is the extend of their knowledge. They are not able to think for themselves it seems.

eGremlin
eGremlin

Then you should know that the real numbers are literally just convergent sequences of rational numbers, hence convergence IS equality. How would you justify the existence of pi or e otherwise?

Refute this if you can:

TechHater
TechHater

How would you justify the existence of pi or e otherwise?

Pi is just another point on the number line. The decimal approximation of Pi being infinite is a flaw of our number system.

Decimal Representations != The actual number (in all cases).

Refute this if you can:

9.999... - 0.999... us not a valid operation. You're trying to do arithmetic with infinities.

I also already told you convergence does not mean equal. It means close to. Just like asymptotes aren't ever reached....

But why do I try? Veeky Forums is for brainlets

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

Meant to say (in some* cases)

w8t4u
w8t4u

Pi is just another point on the number line

??? Ahahah ok now I KNOW you're not getting a PhD in maths...

Define 'infinities'? Never heard the term. Of course it is a valid operation, by your logic pi + pi makes no sense?

I also already told you convergence does not mean equal

And I already told you that you do not know what the real numbers are clearly. Just look up the definition for christs sake...

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

Took awhile Zozo and Zozo is right,
Squares of 0.999... yield 0.000...1

viagrandad
viagrandad

what are you even trying to say here?

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

So no one here is able to refute me? Pathetic.
the decimal number 1/3 does not exist.
Base 10 doesn't allow it.

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AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

I'm getting my PhD this year at a renowned university
and I know 0.999 != 1.

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

what's the definition of '>'

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

Essential attribute of the real numbers is, that for every two numbers of R that are not equal, there is one in between. However there is no number between 0.999.. and 1.

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

This idiot doesn't know what real numbers are. This thread should just die.

MPmaster
MPmaster

Then show me a proof that refutes my statement.
For every two elements x, y with x < y of R there is one x' in R so that x < x' < y.

iluvmen
iluvmen

Just another Veeky Forumstard spouting out whatever he is spoonfed to believe

pi+pi makes sense.
the decimal approximation + the decimal approximation does not make sense unless you terminate the term at some point.

Rather than actually showing math skills, you show your ignorance.

its true, 0.333... does not exist, numbers terminate. 1/3 is different than 0.333...

?

Emberburn
Emberburn

Ok you're just a troll.

Nothing you've said so far has any mathematical backing, you're just stating things which simply are not true without even attempting to explain them. You know nothing of basic foundations of mathematics, so I can deduce that you're probably some computer science student who knows some basic linear algebra and thinks he's a mathematician all of a sudden

askme
askme

I agree. I was talking about OP. Not you.

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

0.333... is an approximation of 1/3. 10 cannot be divided into 3 exactly, which is you get 0.333... The each 3 is another additional one being divided by 3.

The true redpill is that base 12 is superior.

Techpill
Techpill

If the 'decimal approximation' you keep referring to terminates, then the number is just a rational number. However, we are talking about the real numbers. The real numbers are the completion of the rational numbers. This means that every element in the reals IS a cauchy sequence! This is just the definition! It is really basic dude...

For example, the sequence (3, 3.1, 3.14, 3.141,...) is cauchy and we call it pi for short. If you write 0.999... it refers to the cauchy sequence (0.9, 0.99, 0.999,...). This sequence is equivalent to the sequence (1,1,1,...) because they converge!

Now we can define addition on these sequences in the obvious way: pi + pi = (3 + 3, 3.1 + 3.1, 3.14 + 3.14,...). And also 10 * 0.999... = (10*0.9, 10*0.99, + 10*0.999,...) = (9, 9.9, 9.99, 9.999,...).

Just read this please: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Complete_metric_space

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

Right, I'm the troll. Not the guy who just states the same things again and again without refuting anything.

Ok wise guy, go ahead and explain how to add every single infinite digit of the decimal representation in pi into a solid non terminating number. O.O what is that? You can't? It just goes on?? Why is this!? Could it be that, maybe, just maybe, the decimal approximation is just... that? A decimal approximation? That pi cant be accurately represented in its entirety using our written system!?

Dumb troll. You're still walking around talking as if infinity is a real thing without having ever proved it. "Yea guys really, I really did add every single term in this infinite sequence! I did! I didn't just get close to the answer, I got to the answer!!"

^You

Evilember
Evilember

Nice sleight of hand. Convergence does not make them equivalent. If you wanted to "plot" 0.999, it would have an asymptote at 1.

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

No, if you wanted to plot 0.9, 0.99, 0.999, 0.9999, ..... and so on it would have an asymptote at 1. 0.9999.... is infinite, it never terminates so it is 1 you fucking fool.

FastChef
FastChef

Convergence does make them equivalent, that is how the real numbers are defined. It's like talking to plank of wood.

How would you define the real numbers? I am genuinely curious. It seems to me that you are essentially saying that the real numbers don't exist because you can't write most of them down.

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

Is it in Gender Studies?

King_Martha
King_Martha

Oh hey it's this guy again. He will just keep bitching about how you can't complete an infinite amount of operations and therefore infinity makes no sense all the while ignoring that he's switching between different instances of the concept infinity at will when it suits him and also ignoring the actual mathematical definitions in favor of his intuition. Shockingly, this leads to contradictions and because his one view of infinity is clearly broken, all views/definitions of infinity must also be broken.

5mileys
5mileys

no one is able to refute me
getting my phd in math
also I don't know how infinity or real numbers work
but I-I'm really good at math and I say you bakas are all wrong!!!! XD
literally retarded

hairygrape
hairygrape

math using infinity does not exist, it is all flawed
It does exist. Infinity goes on forever because we can always add more 0s. Things get infinitesimally small. Space is expanding

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

Also... math using infinity does not exist, it is all flawed. Calculus is an approximation.
Yep.

aynrandlexicon.com/lexicon/infinity.html

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

Who did this?

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Spamalot
Spamalot

your ignorance is your problem not mine
have no interest in educating you sorry

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

How can retards on this board actually believe that 0.999... = 1? If it was equal to 1, you would just write 1. Also... math using infinity does not exist, it is all flawed. Calculus is an approximation. As well... the null set is not a subset of every step. To have no properties is not a property. Vacuous truths do not exist, they are just insanity.

everyone knows these truths so why bother?

FastChef
FastChef

conveniently ignores

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

1/3 does not equal 0.333...
Literally learned why .999=1 in precalc btw.

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StonedTime
StonedTime

No, they exist but you can't write them down in decimal form. You can use notation to refer to them.

whereismyname
whereismyname

Copy and pasted from somewhere

pastebin.com/LrPMrZR9

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

Literally learned why .999=1 in precalc btw.
You certainly didn't.
Before having understood the definition of the real numbers you can't really know why that is actually true.

Most """"""""""proofs"""""""""" posted here are inherently wrong.

MPmaster
MPmaster

math is wrong because I say so
but also I have a phd in math

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

There is no addition going on here. It is a single element.
0.999... is constructed by the infinite sum of 9/(10^n) so not only is there addition involved, there are an infinite number of terms.

Booteefool
Booteefool

the formal proof from wikipedia 0.999... is all you need
nobody ever touches that one because they can't

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

0.333... is not equal to 1/3

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Stupidasole
Stupidasole

[math]0 \rightarrow \infty = \overbrace{\underbrace{0,1,2,3,4,\cdots}_{\infty \text{ elements of } \mathbb{R}}, \underbrace{\infty}_{\text{not in } \mathbb{R}}}^{\text{all possible elements}} \\ \text{Mapped between 0.9 and 1} \\ 0.9 \rightarrow 1 = \overbrace{\underbrace{0.9, 0.99, 0.999, 0.9999, \cdots}_{\infty \space \mathbb{R} \text{ elements of the map}}, \underbrace{1}_{\text{not in the }\mathbb{R}\text{ map}} }^{\text{all possible elements}} [/math]
If there exists a value to bridge the gap between 0.999... and 1 thus allowing 0.999... = 1, there also exists a value to bridge the gap between real numbers and infinity, thus allowing infinity to be equal to a real number.
If there exists no value to bridge the gap between 0.999... and 1 thus assuming 0.999... = 1, there also exists no value to bridge the gap between real numbers and infinity, thus assuming infinity to be equal to a real number.

Because the value does not actually exist and infinity cannot be reached, there is no possible value to add to 0.999... to make it reach 1; it will never reach 1. No amount of increments in the reals will reach infinity, so no mapped amount of increments between 0 and 1 will reach 1.

0.999... is not "infinitely close" to 1. It is actually infinitely far away from 1. Any arithmetic that shows 0.999... = 1 is therefore flawed by making inconsistent and mistaken assumptions about the construction of a repeating decimal extended from a poor interpretation and implementation of infinity, because infinity has classically always been poorly interpreted and implemented.

[math]0.\bar{9} \neq 1 [/math]

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

How much bigger is 1/3 compared to 0.333...?

Booteefool
Booteefool

Not a relevant question. How much bigger is infinity compared to 10 or [math]10^{10000}[/math]?
Its the same distance from both of them.
0.999... isn't imperically "closer" to 1 than 0.01 is.
You dont go around saying 0.01 = 1, do you?
Numbers do not have distance. They are numbers.

Inmate
Inmate

None of those finite elements map to 0.999... so your entire argument is irrelevant.

likme
likme

implying infinity isn't just -1/12.

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

Nice formatting, bad post.

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

Just read the wikipedia page on the real numbers; you clearly do not know what they are.

Your argument makes no sense. All you are doing is counting a subset of the real numbers between 0.9 and 1, and of course the map doesn't reach 1... The real numbers are uncountable, so there are infinitely many such maps. You have not presented an argument.

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

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Lunatick
Lunatick

No, 0.999... does not exist, retard.
Math is not built on faulty assumptions that don't hold up to scrutiny

RavySnake
RavySnake

seek help

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

Not a relevant question
KEK

WebTool
WebTool

.999 doesn’t exist
How retarded are you?

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

*laughs in basic recurring decimal => fraction algebra*
[math]x=0.\dot9[/math]
[math]10x=9.\dot9[/math]
[math]9x= 10x-x = 9.\dot9-0.\dot9=9[/math]
[math]9x=9[/math]
[math]x=1[/math]
[math]\therefore 0.\dot9=1[/math]

whereismyname
whereismyname

engineers
/thread

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

1/3 does not equal 0.333...
holy shit now THIS is uncharted territory
good thread, OP

iluvmen
iluvmen

Can the mods just ban these threads already? What a fucking waste of space and effort.

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

No one said .999 doesn't exist you autist. .999 unending does not exist. Numbers are concrete. The average intelligence of a Veeky Forums poster must be that of a middle schooler.

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

nice b8,
0.333... != 1/3
wrong, they are two different kinds of notation which correspond to the same real number.
limit does not mean equal
no you're correct, but limits do exist in a mathematical sense, without them we wouldn't have analysis.
dedekind complete fields like the real numbers imply that all rational cauchy sequences have real limits.
the cauchy sequence 0, 0.9, 0.99, 0.999, has a limit 0.999..., this is the definition of the number you call 0.999...
but 0.999.. also has limit 1, via the epsilon delta definition of a limit.
so this cauchy sequence has limit 0.999.. and 1.
the real numbers are also defined as equivalence classes of cauchy sequences, thus 0.999... = 1 by definition.

farquit
farquit

.999... is concrete, real, well defined, whatever you want to call it

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

x=0,999...
10x=9,999...
10x-x=9
9x=9
x=1

Firespawn
Firespawn

Honestly, the irony of your post...

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

1/3 > 0.3
1/3 > 0.33
1/3 > 0.333
1/3 > 0.3333
Continue unendingly
1/3 > 0.333...

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

They can believe it because they are "retarded" enough to understand elementary calculus. You may as well try to argue that 5+5 doesn't equal 10 because "DUUUUUUUUUR if it equaled ten then just write ten".

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

OK, so which finite element maps to 0.999...?

Soft_member
Soft_member

[math]0.\bar{9}[/math] is not an equation........................ [math]_{\text{fuckin' retard}}[/math]

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5mileys
5mileys

Neither is 5+5, but that doesn't mean it doesn't equal 10

takes2long
takes2long

You're literally describing something that exists but you're somehow confused cause you're too busy still trying to pretend there is justification for 0.999...=1

You have the answer you need, dude.

Inmate
Inmate

5+5 is not an equation

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likme
likme

That picture is fake news. A&W was so butt-blasted at their failure of a product that they blamed the American public instead of their own incompetence.

hairygrape
hairygrape

Are you saying 5+5 is an equation?

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

Pi being infinite is a flaw in the number system.
Retard, it would be infinite in EVERY number system because it's a transcendental number. Leave the nigger-tier diploma mill that you're buying your PhD from and attend a real college.

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

This entire argument is over the truth or falsehood of the equation .999...=1
Don't accuse me of having a higher IQ than you.

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

Literally do not even know what an equation is how the fuck did you even navigate to this website.

4=5 is not a fucking equation.

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

4=5 is an equation

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

You are ok?

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

5+5 is not an equation
4=5 is an equation

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CouchChiller
CouchChiller

Are you literally retarded?

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

Are you literally retarded?
Is that a... STATEMENT?
or..
an EQUATION?

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AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

So you really think 5+5 is an equation, and 4=5 is not?

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

All equations are statements btw

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

You think 0.999... = 1 and infinity is a rational number, llus you don't even know basic arithmetic terminology so, ya kow who cares. We dont need to have a conversation and I'm personally not interested in one, cause you're clearly nutty and illogical.

whereismyname
whereismyname

Is this you?

Nojokur
Nojokur

With self assurance confidence like that, you could shopt yourself in the head and go straight to heaven so long as you really believed it, right?
Whats wrong? Too chicken?

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

Can you just explain how 5+5 is an equation? Without just quoting me and posting a brainlet meme

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

Can you explain why you cant use google?
Without just arbitrarily replying to me with annoyances.

King_Martha
King_Martha

I did, nothing came up

viagrandad
viagrandad

Is this the right path?
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equation

hairygrape
hairygrape

So which finite element maps to 0.999...?

Methnerd
Methnerd

So none of the finite elements map to 0.999... because they all map to a finite amount of 9s. That leaves us with infinity, which maps to.... 1. Hoisted by your own petard.

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

You're replying to the guy that thinks 5+5 is an equation

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

finite isn't infinite

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

Exactly, you just proved my point

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

0.999... is infinite
1 is finite

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

infinite reaches 1
finite doesn't

farquit
farquit

Congrats.

1 maps to infinity.
Yes.

P.S. you can't reach infinity. By default, it is out of bounds.
0.999... =/= 1

Inmate
Inmate

More poignantly for you, the repitition of [math]0.\bar{n}[/math] or 0.nnn.... doesn't actually mean "infinite".
Infinity can't be reached.
The repitition only invokes an arbitrary but definitely finite amount, since you know, you can't "have", in totality, an infinite thing.

Any arithmetic that shows 0.999... = 1 is therefore flawed by making inconsistent and mistaken assumptions about the construction of a repeating decimal extended from a poor interpretation and implementation of infinity
This was already layed out for you.

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

monkeys reach for bananas
monkeys don't understand infinity

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

That's how it's defined. You are just saying that the definition is not the definition. This is a non-mathematical argument and thus can be ignored.

Skullbone
Skullbone

Humans lie.
Humans pretend to understand infinity.

Emberburn
Emberburn

wanna bananna?

RavySnake
RavySnake

wanna lie?
can't even go a minute without lying to yourself that anyone smarter than you is "just a monkey".
Once you start getting high on your own supply, you cross a painful event horizon.

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

All these fucking high schoolers and undergrads arguing about bullshit.
Approximations make the world work.
We build our world with definitions. If we choose to make a definition than it will be so.

If you're doing research or work where this definition matters that that's one thing. But I know all you faggots arguing here are in fact NOT working on related research or projects that this definition, either way, will have any bearing.

Fucking brainlet faggots.

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

So do you think 0.999... equals 1?

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

youtube.com/watch?v=TbeA1rhV0D0

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

look who's talking

askme
askme

Before having understood the definition of the real numbers
You didn't learn the definition of real numbers in pre-calc? Dude... Are you like 14 or something?

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massdebater
massdebater

sweet, you proved .999... = 1 - (1/10)^inf, what's next?

iluvmen
iluvmen

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idontknow
idontknow

of course it isn't, it's real number(s).

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

0.000....1 = 0.0... = 0

Skullbone
Skullbone

math using infinity does not exist
Then 0.999... can't exist, so it must be 1.

StonedTime
StonedTime

Wow, you are even more retarded than people who think 0.999... != 1

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

nope, he's really retarded, but the deniers are infinitely retarded

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Spazyfool
Spazyfool

holy shit the number of replies
keeping all the brainlets of the board in one thread
you're doing god's work user

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

the set of all real numbers is larger than any finite set
the set of all even real numbers is smaller than the set of all real numbers, and also greater than any finite set
False
Can't count to infinity.

Higher Math = literal brain damage

Techpill
Techpill

Watch your mouth, fuck-person.

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Emberfire
Emberfire

but infinity doesnt exist so their'yre only 1 retarded

JunkTop
JunkTop

So by your logic there are finite sets bigger than the set of even numbers or real numbers?

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

Okay infininiggers
If you're so smart, solve this problem:
Construct ∞ without invoking the words "infinity" or "infinite" or any related word or term derived from them, and you may also not use the symbol ∞ outside of your conclusion.
Show all your work, be thorough.

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Stupidasole
Stupidasole

By the only logic there is, you cannot count to infinity. Infinity doesn't exist the way you think it does.

whereismyname
whereismyname

Vacuous truths do not exist
Jesus christ you're like a black belt nihilist

Illusionz
Illusionz

The cardinality of the set of all real numbers

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

Nihilism is a lack of caring, much like the lack of caring to make certain. A broken clock is right twice a day under vacuous thinking, yet in reality if all you had was a broken clock without reference, it would never be right.

Cause its broken.

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

That is just an arbitrarily large and vague number. If you're confident with that answer, congrats, you now have what the rest of the world calls a variable.

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

How many real numbers are there thou?

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Booteefool
Booteefool

ten

WebTool
WebTool

[math] \aleph_1 [/math]

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

wolframalpha.com/input/?i=infinity
An unbounded quantity that is greater than every real number.

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

nice b8

Snarelure
Snarelure

What is 0.888... equal to?

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

8/9

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

Aleph is a term derived from infinity, requiring infinity alreasy had been properly constructed and defined.
Can't use it aleph!

Techpill
Techpill

wohoo shitposter has spoken

Methnerd
Methnerd

So are there finite sets bigger than the set of even numbers?

DeathDog
DeathDog

[math]\frac{1}{9} \stackrel{>}{\neq} 0.\bar{1} \\ \frac{1}{9} × 9 = \frac{9}{9} = 1 \\ 0.\bar{1} × 9 = 0.\bar{9} \\ \frac{9}{9} \neq 0.\bar{9} \\ \frac{9}{9} = 1 \\ \frac{1}{9} \neq 0.\bar{1} \\ \frac{1}{9} \neq \text{ any decimal} \\ \frac{1}{9} > 0.\bar{1}[/math]

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

Theres a bigger set than any set.
All sets are finite.

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MPmaster
MPmaster

So what finite set is bigger than the set of even numbers?

happy_sad
happy_sad

The set of all real numbers you believe you're properly referencing is actually being confused. The set of all real numbers is only arbitrarily large, vague, and undefined.

Furthermore, SetA is all real numbers, SetB is all even real numbers. Both sets start empty, and will be filled. Every elememt of the Sets is cardinally indexed.
We inject an element into each set until they are filled. Because infinity cannot be reached, there exists no number infinity/2 that would have been the utmost largest value in the set of evens. Instead, both the set of evens and set of alls grow at the same rate and are of equal size. If left to grow indefinitely, unmeasureably, they would both be equal in size yet infinite.

iluvmen
iluvmen

So subtracting the infinite set of evens from the infinite set of alls leaves the infinite set of odds.
[math]\infty - \infty = \infty[/math]
AKA this thing called infinity is literally worthless in real life.

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

says shitposter with no real life

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

ironic when I can't die :^)

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

the set of your shitposts, since
everyone agrees they're fucking ODD

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

What?

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

I am the number 0.
Everyone hates the number 1.
0 is not 1.
Everyone argues that 0 is 1.
Everyone argues that I am the number 1.
Even though I am the number 0.

Maybe the number 0 can increment to the number 1.
Maybe I could become the number 1.
But maybe I was just always going to be the number 0.
Instead, everyone has treated me as if I would increment to the number 1.
Everyone treats me as if I had already incremented to the number 1.
Yet I remain the number 0.

People don't hate the number 1.
People just hate everything.
Regardless if I'm a 0 or a 1, people will hate me.

whereismyname
whereismyname

youtube.com/watch?v=r5DHquP1HWU

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

9*0.3=2,7
9*0.33=2,97
9*0.333=2,997
The more 3's you have the closer you get to 3 so if you have and infinite amout of 3's the difference is 0.
So that means
9*0.333...=9*1/3
Cut 9 on both sides and we get
0.333... = 1/3
Time 3 on both sides and we get
0.999... = 1

hurr durr infinity does not exist
This is math not physics. It doesn't have to physically exist to be real.

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

it doesn't exist conceptually either, infinite processes are never completed. And even if we were to assume that it did "complete" (whatever that means, as its not well defined), it would still be 1/inf off of 1.

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

completed
he thinks it's a pogo stick
KEK

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