Which of these soft sciences can be turned into hard sciences? Which are...

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

Which of these soft sciences can be turned into hard sciences? Which are unsalvageable?

psychology
sociology
economics
climatology
computer science
linguistics

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DeathDog
DeathDog

All those have multiple subfields and it depends which one you're talking about. Social psychology? Probably not. Formal linguistics? Maybe.

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

What are hard sciences? Help the brainlets pls

massdebater
massdebater

geology, materials science

SniperGod
SniperGod

Economics is a hardcore Mathematics and Statistics 90%.
Anybody saying otherwise is a faggot.

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

computer science
soft

uwut?

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

That's the joke

Bidwell
Bidwell

soft sciences are actually the exclusive domain of non-brainlets because that's where genuinely new ideas are needed. almost everything in the "hard" sciences is cleanly codified, that's why there's so much math. when you already understand the underlying principles, you're basically just doing engineering.

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

faggot
Why the homophobia?

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

Computer science is already a hard science.
I think linguistics can be thrown in too as well as climatology.
Economics MAYBE but not really.
Psychology can be if it's rigorously based in the neurosciences.
Sociology is too soft to make the switch.

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

Physiological psychology (biopsychology) is a hard science. Sensation and perception, behavioural responses to emotional stimuli, abnormal psychology(-ish) are within the hard sciences.

Emberburn
Emberburn

Computer science varies depending on what you focus on.

You can study computer science and never touch anything scientific. You're essentially a subset of an engineering course with a focus on software. Or, you can actually focus your studies on scientific research and a more theoretical side of computer science.

Evilember
Evilember

sociology is on it's way. It's important we distinguish between real sociology and sociology done by women and people of colour

Firespawn
Firespawn

Psychology is the worst. Some of it is science, but literally 99% of papers are bullshit no one even reads.

Flameblow
Flameblow

climatology is a hard science, it's a subset of geochemistry/environmental science
psychology and sociology will be made hard eventually but you can't just force it

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

Feminist Glaciology

Booteefool
Booteefool

Microeconomics is autistic funtimes with sterile abstractions
Macroeconomics is unfalsifiable, unpredictive nonsense

...if we're being generous. If we're being honest, every single macroeconomic framework to ever have a public policy heyday has been falsified one after another, partially because of the nature of the field and the impossibility of carrying out a well-designed, controlled experiment (which limits us to pure inference rather than predictive modeling,) and partially because macroeconomics is a deeply ideological thing taking "uncritically defend bourgeois rule" as its jumping off point.

Merely using math to be precise about what exactly your theory claims and having sophisticated, mathematically rigorous ways of generating your untestable inferences doesn't make it a science. The crucial difference is the possibility of experiment.

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

Everything needs to be studied the same way as natural science, or else it's not a """""""real""""""" science.
This board is so goddamn stupid.

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

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Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

I love the fact that you stopped shitposting walls of text because you realized your "arguments" against CS were uneducated trash.

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Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

implying I'm a CS major
I study Physics. I just hate this culture of subject elitism.

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

t. /g/tard

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girlDog
girlDog

It's not elitism, CS education is terrible. Especially in every American university.

farquit
farquit

climatology is a hard science
no it isn't because there are to many variables impossible to control for, it's the same issue that plagues economics

happy_sad
happy_sad

were uneducated trash

Not an argument.

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

CS, linguistics, and econ are already partly hard sciences. All of them can be, given enough time and thought.

Inmate
Inmate

look at these graphs wow so education

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lostmypassword
lostmypassword

And how would you know that? CS majors at actually good universities seem to be getting good jobs and research positions.

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

this chart is pretty accurate desu. biology gets immensely more complex the more you learn it while math stays about the same and physics gets easier.

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

trust me, I have PhDs in math, physics and biology
Show them, Mr. 250+ IQ.

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Emberburn
Emberburn

seem to be getting good jobs

Nobody is ever talking about muh jerbs. It's always about the curriculum.

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TalkBomber
TalkBomber

t. triggered cs major

Did saying "calculus is easy" bring back bad memories of repeatedly failing it?

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PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

What exactly are your qualms with macro compared with micro? The premises are the same and everything follows from those, or are you talking about generalizing apparent empirical relations into laws? That's always done with a grain of salt and when that relation ceases to exist the laws are updated or abandoned if not salvageable

Nojokur
Nojokur

Evolutionary psychology can potentially turn psychology into a hard science.

Spamalot
Spamalot

Anything that needs to call itself a science isn't really worthy of the name "science"

God damn I love some of my assholish professors

Soft_member
Soft_member

natural sciences aren't science

girlDog
girlDog

Tell that to atmospheric Chemists. Psychology is a soft science because it's methods are ad hoc. In climate science you can extract meaning from chemical reactions, Arrhenius predicted that increased carbon dioxide levels would greatly influence the heat budget of the planet. Meanwhile Freud wanted to fuck his mother so you do to.

massdebater
massdebater

I have a PhD in biophysics.

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

physical science isn't a science

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

I said economics not psychology you mongoloid

Methnerd
Methnerd

Computer science is a form of engineering and not a science.

StonedTime
StonedTime

I was giving an example of why a soft science is soft. Nice argument though.

TechHater
TechHater

t. butthurt psych major

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

Yes, sour grape cucks like you are.

Oh, most certainly not, my fellow physicist. I a much able to understand epsilon-delta proofs without resorting to super-duper thin variations of x.

So neither biology nor physics.

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

Not that user but biophysics Ph.D's do require you to take grad level physics and biology courses. Plus you interact with pure physics and biology grad students on a regular basis, I have a feeling you could get a better feel then most about how the difficulty ramps for different Ph.D's.

iluvmen
iluvmen

tfw my own linguistics have gotten so edgy and good it scares me sometimes

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Snarelure
Snarelure

climatology is not even a real science

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