Whats your opinion on Genetic screening/Embryo selection

Evilember
Evilember

According to Dr Nick Bostrom, we are a few years away from increasing our children's IQ by 20 points and genociding brainlets from the gene pool for the cost of an IVF treatment, by way of genetic screening and embryo selection.

nextbigfuture.com/2016/12/predictions-of-human-intelligence.html

gwern.net/Embryo-selection#improvements

What do you think will be the societal and global implications of Middle class fags being able to increase the IQ of their children by 15 to 24 points?(And if you're willing to spend a hundred grand on your kid, 30+ points).

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King_Martha
King_Martha

We'll probably be around 30 years away from a genetic war. Already the underclasses are starting to get desperate, and locking the dying middle class behind a paywall won't do worlds of good. I hope governments make embryo screening free AND COMPULSORY, but the liberals seem less and less inclined on worrying about the impact genetics has on both the individual and the environment.

We will also see a generation of disconnect between parents and their children due to the drastic change in IQ. This has already been seen in 70s-90s when lead levels dropped, and the result was the destruction of family values. The incoming lack of parenting will give dystopian liberal governments complete rule over the mindsets of the surviving middle class.

Soft_member
Soft_member

It's the most obvious healthcare improvement that should already be funded to the gills. We are talking the end of cystic fibrosis, sickle cell, and a host of other diseases already plus further health benefits over time as it improves.

On a cost-benefit analysis the funding it gets should be about 1000x what it is now.

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

Just a simple statistic. At the average Child's hospital in New York about half of all child visits are related to a genetic disease.

likme
likme

Imagine being such a huge brainlet you need all of that information and data to realize this is cost effective or impactful. It's just a sign of low IQ or of diseased minds that people can't immediately understand this technology and it's impact. It's like being told "we can control evolution" now and it just whizzes over brainlet's heads or they just imagine some 1930s nazi scene in their head. This is why the upcoming wipe is going to be a good thing

Booteefool
Booteefool

South Korea's 108 avg IQ with a few grand worth of Genetic screening -------> 132

That's fukn scary. They'll be to Ashkenazim Jew what Jews are to white goys. This tech can be easily scaled to 10,000 to 100,000 eggs, with only the availability of eggs being the limiting factor, since costs to scan each egg is going down rapidly. Ironically Embryo selection will also pressure women to have kids in their late teens, to early 20s since their eggs start to die rapidly near their late 20s. And rich fags with an already high baseline IQ can probably increase the IQ of their kids easily to Mensa levels. So millions of upper middle class Americans children will all be inside 140-160 IQ range if their parents select for 1000 eggs for around 10-30 grand per child.

What's depressing is that whilst everyone in the west will be increasing the IQ of their children by Eugenics until we eventually hit the limit of this tech. Africans and SEA won't be able to afford this, the cognitive gap between the impoverished south and the richer north will widen.

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

Eggs goes to infinite. Just make them from stem cells. The function is just best return on money which is still a huge number of eggs. So basically it all becomes how good is the selection function.

Meaning countries without biobanks are going to have to mass sequence the entire college system or something soon.

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

China is already sequencing the DNA of the 1000 most smartest people.

Evilember
Evilember

And I don't think we've created eggs from stem cells that are defection free. It'll be a few more decades before we will be able to do that without the risk of creating mutant.

SniperGod
SniperGod

According to Dr Nick Bostrom, we are a few years away from increasing our children's IQ by 20 points and genociding brainlets from the gene pool for the cost of an IVF treatment, by way of genetic screening and embryo selection.

You know that means killing nigger embryos. Right?

farquit
farquit

That's already old news.

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

At the same time, Europe is importing the dumbest people of the planet.

happy_sad
happy_sad

Why are you such a worthless piece of shit?

likme
likme

These are two statements

- We need workers even if they bring along awful cultural beliefs, lack education, and are low IQ.
- Automation is going to replace workers and diminish job opportunities soon.

They are said by the same people.

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

If he is awful or nice does it affect his statement?

Pretty sure all 2nd / 3rd generational studies of immigrants from those regions show the same trends of low intelligence.

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

Why SJWs always behave in such a grotesque way? I remember the scenes of antifa members beating that elderly lady now.

Lunatick
Lunatick

Imagine a belief system or religion.
This system stipulates that non-believers actually make the religion untrue.
So for instance "God exists but everyone must believe it".
Such a religion would not be tolerant of non believers and endeavor to force them to believe in it.

With SJW, the belief that everyone in society must agree, must say the same things, for it to be true is how it operates.

Me saying, "Women are worse at certain sports" is not just my opinion. That statement and me believing it and being able to express it in some way makes it true. SJW belief system is that me stating women are bad at sports actually oppresses and harms women. That if everyone on earth thought they had the same ability as men they would then become 50% of every soccer team roster.

In their world view, the world is entirely a construction of social beliefs with no underlying truths or reality to biology. If we magically believed black people had higher IQs then such people would suddenly dominate science. No biological basis exists to anything. It's all opinion manifesting into reality according to SJW thought structures. Hence they consider all non-conforming thought to their ideal reality as harmful.

Just imagine a "social beliefs dictate reality" and take it to the extreme to understand SJW virulence.

Soft_member
Soft_member

Let's take the example of global warming and put it into the same belief structures of causality.

The pollution from humans does not cause global warming as long as we all believe unanimously it does not.
This belief will make it so.

Take the above statements and throw all logic out the window. In such a reality the ideal way to stop global warming is simply to suppress everyone who says it exists. Hence the way to progress within such a belief system is to control thought.

If you believe biology doesn't exist and we are all magical blank slates socially as most SJW do then this "thought control" is how you make the world a better place. People who disagree are not disagreeing, they are causing harm. People who think differently are not acceptable as the simple existence of contrary thoughts manifests itself as harm. It's a "social construction magic" world view.

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

continued

how to solve obesity?
Socially regard fat people highly.

how to solve crime?
view criminals as good people

etc. The solutions become simple imagine the problem doesn't exist. Anyone who doesn't partake in the false imagination is actively harmful by wrong thoughts alone.

Playboyize
Playboyize

In their world view, the world is entirely a construction of social beliefs with no underlying truths or reality to biology. If we magically believed black people had higher IQs then such people would suddenly dominate science. No biological basis exists to anything. It's all opinion manifesting into reality according to SJW thought structures. Hence they consider all non-conforming thought to their ideal reality as harmful.

This worldview is a degenerate type of animism, which is already a primitive belief system.

Just imagine a "social beliefs dictate reality" and take it to the extreme to understand SJW virulence.

The Orks of Warhammer40k have a similar worldview. The difference is that the things really work for them in this way in that fictional universe.

Emberfire
Emberfire

user, your posts perfectly describe the socioconstructivist view with great concision. Very good.
These animistic views descend from long line of obscurantists: Feyerabend, Kuhn, phenomenologists, German idealists, Kant, Berkeley and so on.

whereismyname
whereismyname

another potentially kino thread gets derailed by alt right snowflakes

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Nojokur
Nojokur

As we develop a post scarcity world we should engineer the species as a whole to reflect other mammal species that live in similar conditions; smaller males than females, herbivore diet, monogamous mating strategies, passive/playful relationships as opposed to aggressive/dominating behavior. We'll become like rabbits, whales, moles, bats, chinchillas, etc as well as other species like this like eagles and such that are monogamous.
There is evidence that indicates some people are naturally disposed to tournament style selection methods and others are naturally disposed to monogamous pair bonding selection methods. There are genetic differences in how dopamine binds to the nucleus accumbens which predispose people to either of those strategies. We should find the codes that turn people into tournament style selectors and eliminate those genes, and foster the monogamous people.
Overall we should basically turn ourselves and our species into a herbivore matriarchal monogamous species where the average IQ is appx. 140 (compared to today, seeing as the average is defined as 100).

cum2soon
cum2soon

Kys Soyboi

idontknow
idontknow

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Skullbone
Skullbone

I knew I'd get a response like this. What about my idea is 'bad' other than some buzzword like "it's a soyboy world" (I don't even consume soy).
It's not as though there won't be competitive sports and games and such in that world, so don't worry if that's where the fear comes from.

Firespawn
Firespawn

Jesus Christ. Is this really how people think?

Illusionz
Illusionz

Yes, there idiots on both side

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

How long do they predict "genociding brainlets from the gene pool" will take to show up in the form of improved discourse on Veeky Forums?

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

Look up decolonization of science. It gets articles in leading scientific journals like Nature on the topic.

Emberfire
Emberfire

There are hundreds of articles like these in the pic.The academic establishment in the social sciences is a sick joke.

Firespawn
Firespawn

Forget the pic.

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DeathDog
DeathDog

decolonization of science

The people who "study" this garbage are getting taxpayer money, if it's a public institution. This is absolutely unacceptable.

Snarelure
Snarelure

This is just the tip of the iceberg.

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

I can't wait desu.

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

*academizes internally*

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

That's the leftist discourse. And remember that they are "on the side of science"

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

everything i don't like is one hivemind

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

Veeky Forums thread quality will largely remain unchanged.

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

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SniperGod
SniperGod

Implying an SJW would approve of a thread on Eugenics

Not everyone who refuses to participate in your little juvenile culture war on social media between mentally ill people from opposite sides of the political spectrum is an SJW.

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